POLL: Obama 51 (+4), Romney 44 (-3). Obama +10 among independents. He also squishes other GOPers.

[jefferson_dem]

Remember that poll that showed Obama and Romney tied, that sent certain people into a frenzy... Well, the tide has turned.

Yes, we know. The election is 15 months away. Still...these results are a positive sign for our side.

Obama and Romney Ride a See-Saw, With Challenges for the GOP Leader

Barack Obama moved to an advantage against Republican frontrunner Mitt Romney among all Americans in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll, but the match-up tightens among registered voters – underscoring the importance of turnout in the still far-off 2012 election.

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GENERAL – In a general-election matchup, Obama-Romney stand at 51-44 percent among all adults, compared with 47-47 percent in early June. Among registered voters, it’s 49-47 percent now, vs. 46-49 percent in June.

Obama looks to have turned the budget debate to his advantage; as reported in previously released results from this poll, his position on the deficit is more broadly popular, he’s taking less heat than the GOP for unwillingness to compromise and he’s got a sizable lead in the view that he cares more about protecting the middle class.

In Obama vs. Romney, the main change is among independents, the key swing voters in national elections. They divided by 44-48 percent Obama-Romney in June, vs. 52-42 percent now. Obama also is doing better now than a month ago among white Catholics (another swing voter group), women, moderates and middle- to upper-middle income earners. Notably, Romney’s lead among “angry” Americans has narrowed considerably – a 53-point margin vs. Obama last month, a 32-point margin now.

Other potential GOP nominees tested in this survey are at or near the customary baseline vote for either party’s candidate, 40 percent. It’s 53-41 percent for Obama vs. Paul, 55-38 percent vs. Perry and 56-39 percent vs. Bachmann. (The results are similar among registered voters – 52-43, 53-40, 55-40.)

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http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/07/obama-and-romney-ride-a-see-saw-with-challenges-for-the-gop-leader-.html

[Laura PourMeADrink]

1. Obama knows he has to get the middle. So, here we are, torn

again between moderating to get the middle against winning an election.

You have to moderate to get reelected, but what good is it if you can't get
progressive?

Maybe, the second term will shine for progressive ideas, since he won't have to worry about reelection. BUT...that's only if we can get the House back.

IMHO

[Armstead]

7. I disagree that progressive can't be moderate

It has not been either sold well, or followed up on by Wadhington Democrats and the Beltway nachine.

BUt the basic values and pecific goals of liberal /progressive populism would hit a chord in "moderates" if presented well and -- more important -- followed through on.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

15. i have felt for so long that we have terrible, almost non-existent

PR...so I agree totally. that is one thing the right has always been so good at...consistency in message.

[Divine Discontent]

2. off to the greatest. I just want Obama to go further left if he gets back in, because from what

many who know him say, he's not as centrist-right as he's governed. I hope for more of the good stuff, and less of the corporate pleasing to try and get GOP votes, except, now with them controlling the House (for now, hopefully) it makes things harder on him, because they're a bunch of extremists who don't want any compromise. Cantor is perhaps the rudest dope I've ever seen be elected and put in such a position of power. Well, I guess if I don't count a certain obnoxious justice...

[Armstead]

3. I wish Romney would be discovered sleeping with a sheep or something

Oooooo...That guy gives me the willies. As a resident of Massachusetts I saw the guy in action. Phony to the max. A perfect tool for Big Bidness.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

4. I wish the M$M would hold Romney accountable for his flip flops, lies, and

the loss of jobs in his home state. As long as the Corporate Media refuses to go after Romney, he'll be a competitor.

[Kahuna]

5. The voters will do that. Does anybody know what Romney stands for?

Plus, his records on jobs is pathetic. He really has nothing to run on. The biggest issue next year will likely be the deficit. I believe the president is trying to get ahead of it and move it off the table.

[Armstead]

6. He basically stands for handing the keys over to the wealthy and corporations.

On that he is consistent.

All else is just window dressing.

[RaleighNCDUer]

32. And how will the voters do that if the media doesn't talk about it?

The vast majority of voters do not spend hours a day lurking on the internets to find out what's really going on. They get ALL their news from CNN, USA Today, Fox News and, for a lucky few, MSNBC.

[phleshdef]

8. I actually don't want to see him held accountable for any of that until the primaries are over.

If he wins them, then there will be plenty of fresh material for Obama to beat him over the head with.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

18. True. It's way too early to implement that strategy. I just hope the Obama team

will be ready to do the hitting. I'm not convinced yet. We'll see...

[Tarheel_Dem]

9. This can't be. It doesn't match the narrative being created in the leftosphere.

:shrug:

[flamingdem]

10. heh nt

[Palmer Eldritch]

11. Obama wins again!

[jenmito]

12. WOW! I expect this new poll to be all over the news!

Or not.

[Scurrilous]

13. K & R

:thumbsup:

[young but wise]

14. K&R.

[CakeGrrl]

16. k/r

countering the gaggle that says "We need to get rid of him!"

:crazy:

[zalinda]

17. If Obama is so popular and doing such a bang up fine job

then why is Romney polling even close to him? And, apparently Romney is polling better than Obama in MICHIGAN, of all places.

zalinda

[Tarheel_Dem]

19. Did you forget about the other 49 states? Or will MI be the only state voting in 2012?

:rofl:

[zalinda]

20. Romney was governor of Michigan

so they know what they guy is all about, and still he is polling ahead of Obama.

As far as the other 49 states. If Obama was doing such a great job, why is he even polling close to any repub running?

Obama should be hitting it out of the ballpark if he was doing great as some here are saying. Face it, many have come to the realization that Obama "just isn't in to us".

zalinda

[CakeGrrl]

21. Sounds like some of you have been drinking the Hamsher-Aid.

:eyes:

Maybe you haven't heard, but the MSM isn't very favorable to Democrats. They love nothing more than to push the "President is failing/struggling" meme - and they have people like you to help it along, aided by the so-called progressives that have grabbed the media megaphones for the Professional Left.

[shellgame26]

22. +1

I swear it seems any good news about President Obama here sends the bubble-dwellers into a tailspin.

[Solomon]

23. LOL Drives 'em nuts.

[zalinda]

24. Go right ahead and insult us

We're used to it. I saw it in the Kerry campaign too. Oh, he's a shoo in. No problem, the MSM just hates him, and that's why he polls so low. He'll win in a walk. Just you wait until election day. Yeah, right.

I am not in love with the new dem party. I am in love with what the dems USED TO stand for. The new dems are repub lite. What Obama is doing is insane! And, yes, that's doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Just because it's a dem doing it, doesn't mean that NOW it's going to work.

zalinda

[maryellen99]

26. then stay home and let Romney or Bachmann win

because that will be so much better right?

[shellgame26]

27. the problem with you

and those who identify with you is that there has always been a phony holier-than-thou left who thought THEY were the real left who complain about everything and who chooses to turn a blind eye to the realities of the actual process of governing. You are nothing new.

[Tarheel_Dem]

28. +1

:applause:

[zalinda]

29. Holier than thou?

With some, it's wrong when a repub does it, but it is perfectly okay when a dem does it. I don't have blinders on.

Who did Obama surround himself with? How many from the left? How many from the right? By last count, he OVERWHELMINGLY chose those on the right. Is there even one progressive in his cabinet, you know to balance it out like they do on the Sunday talk shows?

I'm not by any means doing okay, but I'm doing better than a lot of people. I still have a roof over my head, for how long, I don't know. The rich have gotten 23% richer with Obama in office. The poor, well, we don't count. He is cutting from the least of those who can afford it.

You go down to the tent cities and tell them that Obama has their back. You tell that senior that she (because it's mostly women, as they live longer) will have to tighten her belt even more. Tell the single parent that they have to try to find another part time job, so that they can keep the electricity on.

Meanwhile, Obama is going to re-figure the COLA's, so Wall Street doesn't get mad at him.

How do you tell a person who has worked physical labor for over 50 years, that he is not as important, as Paris Hilton who's never done a day's work in her life, but won the sperm lottery. Could you tell your children that they have to skip meals during the summer, because this President thinks that ONLY the private sector creates jobs.

Just about every person who has common sense can tell you that you can't sell a product to someone, if they have no money to spend. And, companies don't make product unless their is a demand. Either Obama doesn't have any common sense, or he just doesn't care, because he got his.

zalinda

[maryellen99]

25. His father was governor nt

[BklnDem75]

33. Mitt was governor of Mass.

You're thinking about his father George. Mitt grew up in Michigan so it's not unreasonable that he'd poll well there.

[dreamnightwind]

30. I'm glad Obama is running in the Repubican primary

I hope he wins their primary, and is then defeated by a real Dem in the general election. Although I think Romney would be easier to defeat in the general, and their policies are pretty much the same.

Edited to correct a spelling error, and to add "I kid, I kid!"

[Johnny2X2X]

31. My Vote

Obama barely has my vote right now and he could lose it easily with this debt deal. I am a moderate Democrat on most issues, but Obama is a Republican on too many lately. I hope he earns my vote with this deal and in the next year, because it is not automatic.

[jenmito]

34. Kick.