Obama not immune from state's twisted bureaucracy

[dkf]

We can talk all night about President Barack Obama releasing his "long-form" birth certificate and what it means in terms of national politics, race relations and the lunatic fringe. But here in Hawaii, we should also take a moment to reflect on why it took a presidential signature, a round-trip plane ticket for a D.C. attorney, and an executive decision by the newly appointed director of the Department of Health — which had to be backed up by the new state attorney general — for a guy to get his hands on a copy of his own birth record.

Wow laulau, Barry O got the full-on DMV treatment, yeah? It's like one of those "you know you're from Hawaii if …" lists: You know you're from Hawaii if you have to stand in line in a government office to get a number to stand in another line to request the document that can only be requested online but the computer is down so please try again tomorrow but your signature in person is required so you'll be back again next week, only even more frustrated.

This was Hawaii's legendarily tangled bureaucracy playing out for the world to see.

There are a number of factors that play into the birthers' hysteria, and one of them is the Hawaii element. If Obama had been born in a state that seemed more like a state to the folks "back in the states," some of the insidious conspiracy theories may not have taken root. Hawaii has a reputation of being remote, exotic and insular.

And then we go and act remote, exotic and insular by making it nearly impossible for someone born here to get a piece of paper saying they were born here.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/20110501_Obama_not_immune_from_states_twisted_bureaucracy.html

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

1. Oh no sir, we won't forget you posted this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x959756

[The Magistrate]

2. That was Locked, Sir, With 'Do Not Post R/W Talking Points', It Seems....

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

3. It seems also that was not the first time. Behold:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x913697

Don't you just love DU's Google widget at the top right?

[The Magistrate]

11. And That, Sir, Locked With 'Birther discussion have no place on DU, just validates the RW whackos'

How does that go?

"Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

[hfojvt]

15. and yet, scarcely a week later

Obama did release the long form in an effort to "be done with it" just like that OP suggested.

Of course, now the goalposts have moved and more questions are being thrown about, like "Why did it take so long?" and "Now can we see his school records?"

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

4. Different election, different candidate, same crap:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x241621

[dkf]

8. I am a Howard Dean fan all the way.

And I still think Kerry was a bad choice for us.

Howard is the man.

[The Magistrate]

13. Odd, Sir: That was Locked, too, As Flame-Bait, In the More formal Manner Of the Day

"If you start a thread in this forum, you must present your opinion in a manner that is not inflammatory, which respects differences in opinion, and which is likely to lead to respectful discussion rather than flaming. The moderators have the sole authority to decide whether a thread topic is inflammatory"

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

6. Different CENTURY, same crap:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2725611

[The Magistrate]

14. Amazingly, Sir, That was Locked as Well....

Sooner or later, the proper conclusions are going to have to be drawn here, and appropriate action taken.

[dkf]

5. Do you know how long it took to figure that out and how the idea it was impossible to get a copy of

The long form has been floating around? And they did have to get special permission to get it certified. The rest of us can't get a certified copy of our long form where we used to be able to.

Part of what made me upset was the idea that we here in Hawaii don't have access to our own records. That is crazy.

[hfojvt]

12. what I thought was crazy was Wisconsin's DMV

I applied for a driver's license in 1994. I had lost my birth certificate and my social security card, but I had an old driver's license from South Dakota. It was expired, but so what? That was still my picture on the front and still my birthdate on it too.

Nope, not good enough for the DMV.

So I had to write to South Carolina and mail in an $8 fee to get a copy of my birth certificate.

Something any Joe Schmoe could do.

That, however, satisfied the Wisconsin DMV's demands. :crazy:

[hfojvt]

7. I didn't forget

I never knew.

The timeline is kinda funny though. April 25th. When the heck was the certificate released? April 26th? Hadn't the Hawaii AG already ruled at that time to allow the release? But it takes a while for news of what really is going on to get around. Meanwhile, people are spinning theories and making other claims, etc.

[dkf]

10. Obama made the request on April 22nd.

It was already in motion by the time I posted this and I am being called a birther. Lol.

Now people are wondering if it wasn't a masterful move perfectly timed for the correspondents dinner. It's a joke.

As far as I am concerned I am vindicated 100%. Every Trump joke makes me chortle with glee and I think of all of you.

[Tarheel_Dem]

9. +1

:thumbsup: