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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 11:07 PM Original message |
When are assassinations legal and morally justified? |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
1. Where is the line? Shrub snorted it. |
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Puregonzo1188 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
2. Never. International law bans extra-judicial executions and in US law assassinations are barred by |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 11:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. As Holder said, the killing of Bin Laden and other leaders of Al Queda are clearly legal examples of |
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Puregonzo1188 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 11:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. And the previous Attorney General said water boarding was. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:53 AM Response to Reply #23 |
45. The previous attorney general was wrong. The current attorney general is correct. Not complicated. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
3. I don't think the knowledge or permission of the country of residence is all that important. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 11:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. In a way, it is tacitly admitting that we are at war, at least with elements |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
4. It's not an assassination if the target is reaching for a weapon. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 11:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. That is irrelevant. He wasn't coming out alive. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 11:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. It's not irrelevant -- it's what makes it not an assassination. |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 01:44 AM Response to Reply #9 |
33. Who else? Where else? My answer - it depends. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:32 AM Response to Reply #9 |
42. I say there is every possiblity in the world that he could have surrendered. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 11:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Right on. What is it, hypothetically speaking, if the target is captured and whacked? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 11:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. You do realize that "reaching for a weapon" is the same lame excuse |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 11:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. The Commander report to Congress tells a slightly different story, as well. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 11:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Yep. This is in all likelihood one of the teams that trained |
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FarPoint (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
5. We can draw the line..stop when |
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Fuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 11:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. We'd have to draw the line sooner than that. Terrorism will never stop, it's a tactic. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
12. I'd say when they have the means and they threaten us directly. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 11:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. How do you define 'the means'? |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 01:53 AM Response to Reply #14 |
35. Means could be anything if we find they have the intent and a plan. |
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Gamow (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
13. ObL was a military target, not a political target |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 11:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. It's still an assassination. |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 12:14 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. You might call it an assassination ... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 12:18 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Oh, please. They sent in a JSOC assassination team. |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 12:34 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. They were going to take custody of him, if possible .... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 12:48 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. They did not want him alive, that's why this team was used. |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
16. On the other hand... this may have been a test... |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
17. Officials: SEALs thought bin Laden went for weapon (in LBN) |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 11:31 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. That puts nothing to rest at all. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 11:58 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. They took in JSOC teams trained in assassination |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 12:28 AM Response to Reply #17 |
30. It actually raises way more questions than it puts to rest, starting |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:15 AM Response to Reply #30 |
39. If you exercise that ignore list much more .you'll be having a conversation with only yourself here |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
22. IOKIYAA |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
25. I don't know that assassinations are ever legally or morally justified. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 01:48 AM Response to Reply #25 |
34. They risk arrest. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:30 AM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Swiss authorities were asked to arrest him if he went to Europe, this was in Feb '11, too! |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
26. I do not believe OBL was assassinated .... |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
28. Obama already said he was okie-dokies with assassination. |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 01:55 AM Response to Original message |
36. This New Yorker piece goes over some of these issues |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:00 AM Response to Original message |
37. Killing Osama bin Laden was justified. nt |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:01 AM Response to Original message |
38. Here's a hypothetical. |
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Liquorice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:50 AM Response to Reply #38 |
44. In this scenario, has Iran been giving the US billions of dollars in aid? That |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:25 AM Response to Original message |
40. The problem with guys like OBL and co. |
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SoDesuKa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 02:47 AM Response to Original message |
43. When We're Hard Up For Something to Cheer About |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 04:03 AM Response to Original message |
46. Why are some moral and others |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 06:31 AM Response to Original message |
47. war. they didnt know what they were walking into. 5 unarmed, 20-30 armed and ready |
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