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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:50 AM
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Why was Osama's death reported by SEALS as "Geronimo was KIA"?
Edited on Thu May-05-11 11:53 AM by Quixote1818
Now they are saying "Geronimo" was the name of the Mission but according to this latest article:

Snip>

The son was shot dead in that room, too.

After the nerve-wracking, nearly half-hour gap in information from the scene, Washington got word that "Geronimo" was killed in action.

The raiders' work was not done.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/05/inside-bin-ladens-lair-seal-team_n_857914.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%7C60618


If this is true then the Native Americans should BE FURIOUS! Geronimo's whole family was slaughtered in Mexico and his people brutally mistreated by both the Mexican and US governments. Treaty after treaty was broken by Americans and "Indian" killers like Kit Carson were made into National Hero's. What was done to Geronimo and his wife and children was EXACTLY what was done to us by Osama on 9/11. If they really did attach the name Geronimo to Osama then that is absolutely Disgusting and someone needs to make a huge apology to the indigenous people of the America's. I don't give a fuck if it wasn't his real name, it is a name that is attached to him now and has stuck. This is the only problem I have with the whole operation which was brilliant in every othe aspect.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:52 AM
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1. Those are Huffington Post's words, not a quote.
Huffpost got it wrong.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:54 AM
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5. It was AP, not HuffHo. n/t
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:55 AM
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8. I believe the quote was
"Geronimo - e-kia" meaning Geronimo (this particular mission) enemy (Bin Laden) killed in action.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:53 AM
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2. mission was to kill osama. geronimo kia.... mission completed. nt
Edited on Thu May-05-11 11:54 AM by seabeyond
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:53 AM
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3. I have always preferred "The scalded marmot sings at midnight..."
"...I repeat....the scalded marmot sings at midnight...do you copy?"
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:53 AM
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4. They didn't say "was"
Edited on Thu May-05-11 11:54 AM by Richardo
Not "Geronimo was KIA"

The call was: "Geronimo EKIA"

Geronimo = success; EKIA = Enemy Killed in Action

bin Laden was 'Jackpot', which incidentally is hilarious.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:54 AM
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6. I think the article's incorrect. The quote I heard was "Geronimo EKIA"
i.e. Mission successful, Enemey Killed In Action.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:55 AM
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7. The military has used "Geronimo" as a codename for various people for decades.
Its just one of those names that works well for that sort of thing. Its like Tango. Hell, the CIA even used ELVIS for Bin Laden at one time. Should white southerners who are fans of oldies rock be offended by that? (no, and they wouldn't be) It means nothing. And Geronimo the native american was not the only person to ever carry that name, just the most famous. Anyone offended needs their oversensitivities examined.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:56 AM
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9. maybe because the story and your post have it wrong
The coded message back from the SEALs was "Geronimo - E KIA". Meaning, the report was from/about the operation known as Geronimo and that message was "E" (Enemy) KIA ("Killed in Action').

You can chill back out now.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 12:07 PM
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14. Do you have any evidence to back up your claim or are you speaking on behalf of the White House?

Please post your evidence, if you have any, to back up your claim that "Geronimo" was not the code name for Osama inthis military operation.

Simply making that claim does not make it a fact.

The White House and Pentagon are not backing up your claim.

However, you may have better sources than the White House and Pentagon.

I'm listening.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 12:08 PM
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16. ONLY SATAN AND POL POT CAN SPEAK FOR THE WHITE HOUSE
BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SAME.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 12:57 PM
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21. not that it will matter to you, but here you go
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/osama-bin-laden-operation-code-geronimo/story?id=13507836

The source for the info in this story is the government. As is the source of the info in the article you cite. BTW, where exactly in the article that you cite does it quote the coded message as being "Geronimo was KIA"? Oh wait, it doesn't.

You can choose to believe what you want. I choose to believe the story that makes the most sense. Among my circle of scuba diving acquaintances, I know a few former special ops team members. So I asked: what would be more likely as a coded message in a situation like this: "Geronimo was KIA" or "Geronimo - E KIA." After they stopped laughing at the idea that such a coded message would come with a verb, they confirmed what logic would suggest. The latter is undoubtedly a more accurate reporting of what the actual message was.

Again, you can choose to believe bad reporting. But it doesn't change it into good reporting.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:56 AM
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10. mispost
Edited on Thu May-05-11 11:57 AM by Marr
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:57 AM
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11. Perhaps this is a signal that Skull and Bones is alive and well
The Yale Skull and Bones members took Geronimo's skull from out of the Native American graveyard. (IIRC.)

We still have the Skull and Bones banking policy.

We still have the Skull and Bones endless and un-winnable wars draining the lives of our young people, and the dollars of our Treasury.

Just a lil reminder to poke away at us - that no matter who gets the Highest Office in the land, the Evil Doers are running the Ship of State.

I often view Obama as young Jimmy Stewart in "Mr Smith Goes to Washington." But in the movie, Mr Smith gets good advice about what is really going on from his woman aide and good buddy.

And ain't no one pointing out to President Obama how much trouble he is causing all of us, by keeping the Skull and Bones policies afloat.

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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 12:10 PM
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19. Very good point. That may, indeed, be a contributing factor.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 12:04 PM
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12. BECAUSE OBAMA HATES NATIVE AMERICANS
.
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 12:06 PM
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13. +1,000 n/t
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 01:15 PM
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25. Clearly, no way he's getting re-elected now
Geronimo-gate will be his undoing.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 12:08 PM
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15. My understanding is that 'Geronimo' was the code word for a successful mission.
It was not code for the mission itself, nor for bin Laden.

If bin Laden had not been there, they'd have said something else.

And they didn't say "Geronimo was KIA". They said "Geronimo. EKIA." (Enemy Killed In Action)

BTW, Geronimo was the Apache leader's baptized christian name, given him by the mission priests before he became a warrior. Named for St Jeremy, IIRC. I've never been clear on if he actually converted, or was a practicing christian at any time.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 12:09 PM
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17. Now you've done it!
My "recommend" didn't even count!

Sometimes the measure of how right you are is the extent that it upsets others.

Thank you.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 12:10 PM
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18. Rachel warned us. As the story breaks there are all kinds of
mistakes in Developing Story. Media can hear things wrong
or misunderstand something, and go on air with mixed up mess.

For first few days just listen and finally the story will
be clarified.

She says we make a mistake to grab any info as fact in the
beginning. Everyone is trying to get on the air and mistakes
are made in "Developing Stories).
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 01:02 PM
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23. yup yup yup. nt
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ReturnoftheDjedi Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 12:31 PM
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20. it wasn't. you have it wrong.
They said "Geronimo, EKIA'

Geronimo meant that the mission was successful.

EKIA means Enemy Killed in Action.

But don't let little things like facts get in the way of a really good shit fit.
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DFab420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 01:01 PM
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22. It was reported as "Geronimo, Geronimo, EKIA.
meaning Mission Successful, Mission Successful, Enemy Killed in Action
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 01:10 PM
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24. How many Geronimo's (and not only inside the US) in the world....
Edited on Thu May-05-11 01:21 PM by Amonester
will be *offended* by this?

Maybe a lot of them will. So effin' what? :shrug:

There are a lot of Osama's out there too...



Edit to add: Sometimes, even like everyday now, I feel like I somehow ended up living in a permanent SCHOOLYARD! Thin-skinned people should GROW UP, or make 'serious efforts' to become adults.... ASAP!

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