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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 12:32 AM
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A Table of Period Life Expectancy, according to the Social Security Administration.
How much time do you have left, and how much are you gonna be screwed out of by the Republican Right?

http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/STATS/table4c6.html

I have about 24.06 years of life left. And 5.5 years until retirement. If I'm lucky.

Will that last few years be covered by Medicare, and how much will the private insurance companies suck off? Will Ms. D and me have to live under a bridge?

We need a safety net.

In fact, we paid for it. I have the check stubs.

How dare these bastards try to steal our money. Didn't their mommas try to teach them right from wrong?
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 12:42 AM
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1. They may be going by the
mistaken idea that survival is for the fittest, where the fittest are the strongest and most powerful.

However, that is a big mistake. Survival is, according to Darwin, about those species and their kind that are most adaptable.

Now, even though we are going through, collectively, some extremely hard and difficult times in this process, who do we want to bet on and which do we identify with?

They, in their structures, in the short-term, seem to think that they are the strongest and can oneup us with that in the long-run. I am betting most certainly on our overall adaptability to the point that I think we will come to our senses about how our ability to adapt is totally contingent on our recognition the necessity of the health of our environment itself, so that we can exist to adapt to it.

We all can and will change our lifestyles as we realize what actually makes our living possible and as we come to see our intimate relationship to it. Then, we will also see how the model of exploration proffered by this short-term, and potentially fatal, age of fake people, (corporations) was merely a doomed reflection of a self that we thought we were, but proved to be a fallacy that taught us something for a more real and direct and sustainable, lasting future in harmony with nature.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 12:52 AM
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2. So is life expectancy going down?
On line 1, a newborn has a life expectancy of 75.38 years.

In '07 I was 54, and my life expectancy at that point was another 25.68 years, for a total of 79.68.

Why am I expected to live longer than a newborn born in '07?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 01:17 AM
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4. because they know social safety nets are disappearing
:(
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 02:01 AM
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6. Because so many babies and children die in the first months and
years of life. Some babies die shortly after they are born. That is the natural course of things.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 02:21 AM
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8. because of averages
by the time you reach age 54, some 10% of your fellow newborns are already dead. As the table shows. Of 100,000 born, only 89,940 males are still living at age 54. The life expectancy of the newborn, includes all those people who died before age 54 (including the almost 800 who died before the age of 2), bringing the average down for newborns. As the table shows 10,501 living at age 92, obviously their life expectancy is over 90 and 754 of the 100,000 will live to age 100. If you live to age 100, your life expectancy is only 2 years, but still a lucky (?) 4 of those 754 will still be alive at age 109 and one will live to age 111.

Infanct mortality is one of the major reasons that life expectancy was so low back in the 1800s and 1900s. It was NOT because most people died at age 40 or age 50. No, it was because so many more infants died before the age of 5. Many people alive at age 40 in the 1800s lived to be over 70. As the Loomis family history records the first 6 generations of Joseph Loomis (born about 1590 and the sixth generation being born in the late 1700s) - there were 1955 male descendants, 531 of them died before age 16. Of the 1,424 who lived paast age sixteen, 975 of them (or 68%) lived past age 60, and 46 of them lived past age 90.
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eomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 04:40 AM
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10. Because now that you're 54 you can no longer die any earlier than 54.
Your life expectancy at age 54 is an average of the ages at death of a large pool of people aged 54 who each live out the rest of their lives. Naturally there will be no deaths at an age earlier than 54 in that group since by definition everyone in the group has reached 54 alive.

The life expectancy of a newborn, on the other hand, is an average that does include deaths at an age earlier than age 54 since the definition of the group includes people who make it merely to birth and then die one minute later, one year later, etc.

If the actuary is assuming no change in mortality rates over time then life expectancies will go up as you progress through the table from birth to high ages.

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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 01:06 AM
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3. The older you are, the longer you can expect to live.
The reason your current life expectancy is longer than that of a newborn, is that by now you've outlived those who died (or were expected to die) in infancy or early childhood.

Think of it this way: at some time in the past life expectancy (at birth) was about 25 years. That did NOT mean that someone who was 24 and 8 months was as old as a 70 or 80 something is today. That meant that a heck of a lot of those who were born alive died a lot earlier. Aging has not changed very much. A twenty year old two thousand years ago was a lot like a twenty year old today. But that two thousand year ago twenty year old did not have aspirin, let alone anti-biotics or hip replacement surgery or any of the ordinary or extraordinary medicine we now take for granted.

I'm currently 62. The table you link to shows that I should live at least another 19 years. But I'm currently planning on at least 30, given my personal excellent health and the longevity of my parents and their generation.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 01:18 AM
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5. I'd bet on at least 35 for you, SheliaT my sweet
yes INDEED
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 09:40 PM
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13. I'm hoping my great-grandchildren will
complain that I'm simply too mean to die. :-)
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:08 PM
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15. aw man that would be AWESOME!!!
GO FOR IT SHEILAT!! Yes INDEED. :thumbsup:
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 02:03 AM
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7. It should also mean something if your parents are still living. I am
66 (and a half) and my parents are still around and mostly doing OK.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 09:56 AM
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11. When I was 70, my parents were like young whipper-snappers. It was the later
broken hip and pelvis that seemed to do them in. :cry:
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 05:05 PM
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12. I'm sorry they aren't any longer with you.
I was raised by my grandparents after my folks divorced and grandfather lived to be 85 and grandmother lived to age 95. Miss them a lot.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 02:30 AM
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9. Look on the bright side!
According to this table, men have a better than 50% chance of living through the year all the way up to age 106! Women all the way up to 108!
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 09:49 PM
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14. 52 years, I'm 25.
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