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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:18 AM
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Look at these new WI residency rules in play for July 12 recalls!...
I believe also that absentee ballots were cut down to one week.




http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/capitol-report/article_67033ecc-8262-11e0-b4e8-001cc4c03286.html

Capitol Report: New residency rules will be in place for recall elections


JESSICA VANEGEREN | The Capital Times | jvanegeren@madison.com | (68) Comments | Posted: Friday, May 20, 2011 11:15 am


Forget about voting in the July 12 recall elections if you move to Wisconsin after June 14.

Under a proof-of-residency provision in the voter ID bill passed this week by the state Legislature, voters will now need to live in the state 28 days before an election -- instead of 10 -- in order to cast a ballot.
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Extending the residency requirement from 10 to 28 days is one immediate point of concern for Andrea Kaminski, the director of the Wisconsin League of Women Voters. Under the provision, it is not only new state residents who could be turned away from the polls. In-state residents who move to a new home or apartment located outside of their current voting district after June 14 must cast their votes in their old district.

Residents who haven't moved since the last election do not need to worry about showing proof of residency. Their names will be on the voter log at their polling place.

First-time voters, however, whose names do not appear on a voter log, must prove they have lived at their current residency for 28 days. Additionally, the voter ID bill no longer will allow neighbors to vouch for one another or for parents to vouch for voting-age children who live in their home.

This concerns voter advocates like One Wisconsin Now's executive director, Scot Ross, who says 178,000 seniors in the state do not have a valid photo ID.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:23 AM
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1. Sounds like "someone" needs to get busy getting those 178,000
Edited on Sun May-22-11 11:24 AM by SoCalDem
elderly voters the ID they will need... or they can do what we dems always seem to to...file a bunch of lawsuits that bulk up lawyers' wallets, and end up getting shot down 5 years later by some right wing judge..

This is why right wingers feel safe in doing this shit over and over,.. they know we will kvetch & whine & complain about how unfair it all is, and in the end the people needing ID do not get the ID and they don;t get to vote.

If we ever called their bluff and GOT the damned IDs for people, and those people showed up & voted.//.well maybe then we would have enough legislators to start changing things..
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Johnyawl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:40 AM
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2. This is the kind of thing labor used to do for the dems...

...provide volunteers to take those 178,000 old folks to get their photo IDs, and then show up on election day and drive them to the polls.
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:46 AM
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3. We have been doing fine without photo ID's in WI in the resent past. Zero
nada zippo folks using others ID's per a resent research article. The media just hyped up the lies or were too lazy to do any substance reporting on this issue. In the meantime other ugly aspects got slipped into the bill with little or no media attention.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:52 AM
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5. I agree wholeheartedly, BUT
now that the rightwingers have taken over, they are the ones writing the "new rules", and unless those rules are followed to the letter, those 178,00 just will not be voting.

With those folks voting, there could be enough of a dem presence that thopse "rules" could be done away with or perhaps a more permanent solution that cannot be changed on a whim, could be set in place.

Perhaps states need to revisit the concept of just what makes a citizen a citizen..

Do they start paying taxes only after the 28 day timeline? With extremely gerrymandered districts, how do they even know what district they are in? They could move across the street, and end up ineligible.

Why not send a postcard/voter registration postage-paid form to all people who turn 18, and just register them all as independent until they show up for their first primary, when they actively choose their party?

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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:58 AM
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6. It seems that a correct address is what makes a citizen in WI now.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:59 AM
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8. anyplace you live
is the "correct" address:evilgrin:
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 12:11 PM
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10. LOL.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 12:35 PM
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12. Substitute "complicit" for "lazy" and I agree in total. n/t
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dragonlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:47 AM
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4. It won't be just showing up at the DMV
Edited on Sun May-22-11 11:49 AM by dragonlady
The voter will need a birth certificate or similar paperwork to prove identity. How many 80-year-olds have their birth certificate available? How many younger people? At least the photo ID part of the law will not be enforced until next year. That gives some time to work on the problem.

Edit to add: Labor has been and still is active in all the election campaigns I've observed.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:58 AM
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7. The requirements should be what is required to sign up for insurance
When we got our paperwork last Nov for our upcoming year's health insurance, we had to have :

marriage license
birth certificates

we had to send for them from the state of Kansas.

For the 80+ers who cannot come up with a birth certificate, if they HAVE already been voting, that should pretty much prove that the state accepted them as a valid voter/an eligible voter.

People who already are registered should be grandfathered in, and people new to voting should have easy access to a birth certificate..

Perhaps a good present for an elderly family member would be a search for their documentation, and then taking them to the post office to get them a damned passport...even if they never travel farther than their mailbox.

Much more useful than another sweater or a dinner out.


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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 12:23 PM
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11. The argument for what they SHOULD be is over in Wisconsin
It's time to move...on ALL fronts, including education of the public about the changes.
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 01:28 PM
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14. Lawsuits are already in the works. I read that AARP will be working
with NAACP and Association of Retired Americans on a legal challenge with other groups joining in
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 01:31 PM
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15. and what do you want to bet that the cost of getting the damned IDs
would be a lot less than the lawsuits that will end up failing 5 years from now after more people have lost their ability to vote in the intervening years?..Of course the lawyers will have made a tidy sum.
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 12:10 PM
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9. The League of Women Voters calls on Gov. Scott Walker to consider the significant problems with this
Instead, Walker and his repug poodles will have a big Tulip Garden signing at the Capitol on Wednesday!!


This is from an editorial..............

http://host.madison.com/ct/news/opinion/column/article_a6338ece-830e-11e0-a880-001cc4c03286.html

............Citizens expect their representatives to thoughtfully consider how the legislation they wish to pass will affect people in the state. We expect them to work out ways to accomplish their objectives while protecting the interests of all citizens. That was the goal of the framers of our state and national constitutions, and generations of lawmakers have worked to develop procedures to protect against abuse of power. It appears that those in power now would throw all of that away.

The League of Women Voters calls on Gov. Scott Walker to consider the significant problems with this bill and veto it, saving Wisconsin the cost of implementation, reduced participation in elections and possibly legal challenges. We urge the Legislature to act quickly to appropriate funds for the Government Accountability Board, which has little time to train local election officials and educate voters in the few weeks before the July 12 recall elections. It is the responsibility of the Legislature to commit the funds to support the laws they pass. It is the least they could do.

Andrea Kaminski is executive director of the League of Women Voters of Wisconsin, which promotes informed and active participation in government.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 01:32 PM
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16. Gov Walker calls on the League of Women Voters
to kindly STFU and kiss his ass while they are at it..

:grr:
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 02:17 PM
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17. sounds more like the case.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 01:11 PM
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13. I don't know what people expected......
in Wisconsin and elsewhere. When "cooler heads" prevailed during the run up to this and put all the eggs in the "electoral/recall" basket, this should have been a no brainer to see coming.

What? You thought the fascists were just going to roll over and give up power?
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