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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-28-11 07:17 PM Original message |
Police Brutality at the Silent Flashmob at the Jefferson Memorial |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-28-11 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. That's the Jefferson Memorial |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-28-11 07:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Oops. Thanks. |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-28-11 07:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Sawright |
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HipChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-28-11 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
4. DC Park Police.... |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-28-11 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
5. So... no dancing inside a memorial? |
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Recovered Repug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-28-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. From what I saw of the video, |
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blaze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-28-11 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
6. Some comments from YouTube |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-28-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Still confusing as to why folks can't dance there |
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blaze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-28-11 08:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. But it wasn't just dancing, was it? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 10:15 AM Response to Reply #10 |
54. so by your logic a respectful gazing in quiet flash mob |
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caraher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 10:37 AM Response to Reply #54 |
66. thoughtcrime |
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godai (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-28-11 09:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. It's considered 'demonstrating'. n/t |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 09:54 AM Response to Reply #15 |
46. The right of the people peaceably to assemble |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #46 |
84. That! /\ nt |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 10:42 AM Response to Reply #46 |
85. It really bothers me |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 11:04 AM Response to Reply #46 |
89. What i find so damn frustrating |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 12:11 AM Response to Reply #7 |
23. Dancing protestors arrested at the Jefferson Memorial |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-28-11 08:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Arms straight out to the sides. |
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Historic NY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-28-11 10:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Exactly they apparently had no respect for other visitors who weren't dancing . |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 09:26 AM Response to Reply #6 |
38. Calling people 'retards' is likle using the N word. |
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idiotgardener (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-28-11 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
8. Here's hoping for |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-28-11 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
11. Didn't really look like brutality to me. |
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Stevenmarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-28-11 09:38 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Didn't look like brutality to me either |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-28-11 11:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Watch the long version |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 03:06 AM Response to Reply #20 |
30. It isn't brutality |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 08:19 AM Response to Reply #20 |
31. Proud2BlibKansan, that wasn't police brutality. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 08:59 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. You must not know who these people are |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 10:00 AM Response to Reply #33 |
50. What do I need to know about these people? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #33 |
69. Medea Benjamin wrote the book on nonviolent civil disobedience." |
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Stevenmarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 09:27 AM Response to Reply #20 |
39. There's 11min of my life I'll never get back and yet still no brutality |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 09:38 AM Response to Reply #20 |
45. THAT's dancing!?! I'm pretty sure that all the lawyers for defence have to do is |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 11:09 AM Response to Reply #20 |
94. That wasn't "brutality" |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-28-11 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
12. Too many authoritarians on DU these days |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-28-11 10:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Same here, I've considered leaving. n/t |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-28-11 11:05 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. We are just acknowledging reality, Police can us FORCE to keep the peace |
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idiotgardener (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-28-11 11:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Did you miss the cop picking the guy up and throwing him to the ground on his side? |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 08:35 AM Response to Reply #21 |
32. throwing him on his side after being repeatedly told to stop resisting arrest. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 09:00 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. And smacking the camera |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 10:17 AM Response to Reply #34 |
58. Oh, the horror of smacking a camera away from someone who was told to stop filming and leave..., |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 10:20 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. yes indeed in a police state one is not permitted to observe the police |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 10:22 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. he could still observe by standing in the doorway with everyone else. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 09:57 AM Response to Reply #19 |
47. there was no disturbance of the peace other than the arrests themselves |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 02:57 AM Response to Reply #12 |
29. Come on. Don't leave. Stay. Speak. Something about standing your ground... |
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Puregonzo1188 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #12 |
64. Yes, I know. When DU is further to the right on the general reaction to something that I've observed |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 11:08 AM Response to Reply #12 |
93. Yes. |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-28-11 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
18. Apparently this was in reponse to this case |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
22. This is a bad PR move. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
24. I watched the "long version" and a saw a bunch of immature brats wasting the officers' time and |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 02:06 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Deleted message |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 09:00 AM Response to Reply #24 |
35. Cops should have shot em |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 09:25 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. No, they should have had some respect that others were there, maybe for the only visit they would... |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 09:30 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Of course! The public square is no place for political actions! |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #41 |
52. That's not a public square. I'm in DC all the time, the Memorials are quiet contemplative places. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 10:15 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Then let's keep groups of kids from visiting |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #55 |
70. It's not about volume, it's about the purpose of the place and about not being rude. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 11:31 AM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Kids are loud and disruptive |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. And we hold adults to a higher standard. nt |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 09:58 AM Response to Reply #24 |
48. seriously? |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #48 |
88. Seriously. |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 11:35 AM Response to Reply #24 |
76. They are trying to prove that a person can dance where no sane person would try to dance. nt |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 02:33 AM Response to Original message |
26. I've finally seen a video of a flashmob and wonder |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 09:02 AM Response to Reply #26 |
36. I've done a couple flash mobs |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #26 |
95. Yes, indeed |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 02:45 AM Response to Original message |
27. Please. They were just antagonizing the cops. That was their goal. Silly stuff. Much more important |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 09:28 AM Response to Reply #27 |
40. Some families only make on trip in their entire lives. These people were utter selfish asses. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. I know! The horror of seeing free speech at the Jefferson |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 10:00 AM Response to Reply #42 |
51. Let them do their stupid shit 50 yards outside the damn memorial. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 10:17 AM Response to Reply #51 |
57. yes I see that part of the 1st amendment now: |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 11:13 AM Response to Reply #57 |
68. Clearly, demonstrations are not allowed just anywhere, they never have been, never will be. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #68 |
79. Yes of course, I missed that part too! |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 11:06 AM Response to Reply #68 |
91. If it is within right of free speech and assembly to disrupt soldiers funerals..... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 10:11 AM Response to Reply #42 |
53. I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 10:21 AM Response to Reply #53 |
61. stupid words |
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tranche (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 11:05 AM Response to Reply #42 |
90. Thomas Jefferson would have punched them in the face for being idiots. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #40 |
56. There are several veterans in that group |
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octothorpe (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 11:29 AM Response to Reply #40 |
73. Actually, had the cops (or those in charge of the cops) acted smartly, then they would |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 02:56 AM Response to Original message |
28. I'm amazed the cops didn't use tazers and kill more people for BS...! |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
43. If this is the best people can do for political action, we're in a load of trouble. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 10:19 AM Response to Reply #43 |
59. we are in a load of trouble because peacefully dancing |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 10:27 AM Response to Reply #59 |
63. What they were doing was a self-described act of civil disobedience. Look up the definition. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Civil disobedience at a monument to a revolutionary followed by arrests. The irony is delicious. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 10:44 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Well, that's what the protesters called it -- civil disobedience. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #65 |
75. The tragic tyranny!!!1!1! |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
44. Lol, the police came up and nicely and politely told them they were not allowed to dance there |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
49. Did they arrest the ringleader? |
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octothorpe (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
71. What a stupid law... That being said, the protesters went there knowing this would happen |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
72. Immature, worthless tools. |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #72 |
77. The protest was foolish. There are more substantive matters facing this country. nt |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
78. What were they protesting? What is their cause? |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 10:02 AM Response to Reply #78 |
81. They were protesting the court upheld ban on dancing at the Jefferson Memorial. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 10:14 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Well, then. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
83. What happened before all that "Brutality?" |
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dems_rightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #83 |
86. Stern looks! |
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tranche (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
87. I remember when I was young enough to think something as stupid as a flashmob |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
92. People should be able to do headstands at the Jefferson Memorial if they'd like. |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
96. The problem here is that the first amendment has been gutted |
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drpepper67 (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
97. I wonder if they had burned a flag instead of dancing would they still have been arrested? |
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