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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:31 PM
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Even Pat Buchanan is laughing at how the Dems threw Weiner under the bus.
Weiner broke no laws while Vitter & Craig did. Yet, dems panic & throw one of the best fighters for liberal and progressive causes under the bus while republicans rallied around their Vitter who is still serving.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:33 PM
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1. How is he "one of the best fighters"?
Weiner had no real legislative accomplishments. Plenty of people can get on TV and be loud: congressmen are supposed to do something more.
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108vcd Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:35 PM
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3. he spoke for the people
and those are the issues hardest to pass
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:59 PM
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18. He spoke for his "package". Weiner could not lead out of a wet bag
after news of his scandals.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:36 PM
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4. then where have they been?
If being an effective messenger is such an easy task then why have there been so few on our side of the aisle?
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:44 PM
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7. Well good question. Weiner was the best.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 02:09 AM
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27. I didn't say effective messenger. I said "loud."
Weiner was good at preaching to the choir. Winning over people not already on our side? Not so much.

Meanwhile many better and more accomplished Congresscritters go on about their work accomplishing much more than Weiner did: Patrick Murphy, Kirsten Gillibrand, Louise Slaughter, Tammy Baldwin, and on.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:47 PM
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9. He had accomplishments by standing up & fighting for progressive causes which
is why his district stood behind him better than the dems in DC. More accomplishments than the weak-kneed dems who just give the republicans what they want which is what they intend to do now with medicaid.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 02:06 AM
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26. What accomplishments? Can you list them?
What you're describing is an alternate reality.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:33 PM
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2. The dems think it will get them votes from the RW. Fools. n/t
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:37 PM
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5. Uncle Pat will talk smack no matter what happens.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:45 PM
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8. Maybe, but he sure as hell is right on this one & he knows it which is why Cenk & Press both agreed
with him.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:54 PM
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16. Yeah but he was on point this time
I thought what Weiner did was stupid but I'm horrified at the way elected Democrats piled on him. It seemed like even Pat was shocked, repugs would never do that and that's why they win.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 06:48 PM
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23. Exactly, the repugs unite and back each other. The dems still haven't figured
that one out and wonder why many think of them as a fractured party, get confused by what the dems stand for or meant and the repugs suck in their vote.

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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:40 PM
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6. Why wouldn't he? His job is laughing at Dems. n/t
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:47 PM
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10. He has a good & easy job then doesn't he.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:48 PM
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11. Are you surprised by this?
That's exactly why they should have stood up for him. I don't care whether he was the best or the worst Dem in the party, he was high profile and extremely visible.

They're all sitting there chortling at Pelosi and Schultz and to a lesser extent Obama for doing the republicans dirty work for them.

The formula works - divulge some shit about a prominent liberal spokesman or organization then sit back and watch his own party destroy him. You can bet your ass they will do this again and again until somebody stands up to them.

Weiner's constituents have been deprived of a representative they liked by a bunch of people who were scared for their own asses.

I'd be seriously pissed if I lived in his district. Hell, I'm pretty pissed right now and I live 3000 miles away.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:52 PM
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13. Surprised; no I am not, we have seen it before, just stating a fact & what you have
said here is so true, totally agree. Now, they are saying the dems are looking at cutting medicaid. Surprised again, no I am not but as you, pissed off. They should be fighting for tax increases on the wealthy, remember, the ones they extended.

If they do go along with cutting medicaid, I am finished with them, no point of putting them in office if this is the way they are going to conduct their business for the people.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:50 PM
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12. Weiner made some powerful Democrats uneasy, and I mean WAY before this.
He was too much a fighter to please the Pelosis of the world.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:52 PM
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14. Right-on.
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nobodyspecial Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:54 PM
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15. I'm sure his pregnant wife had NOTHING
to do with his decision. But let's stick with the spineless Dems and Weiner as the innocent victim.
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:58 PM
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17. Fuck Vitter. Weiner needed to resign and finally did. Let republicans have
the douche Vitter. Keeping Vitter will be one more insult to citizens that will haunt republicans during the 2012 election cycle. Pelosi and the House democratic leadership stepped up and did the right action. Weiner was an embarrassment and distraction, he had to go.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 06:03 PM
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19. This is why we "lose"..we are always on DEFENSE
he doesn't resign? we are weak enablers who approve of his behavior

he resigns.//../we did not support one of our own and threw him under the bus..

dems have been on defense for DECADES, and have not figured out how to seize the agenda and be on offense

Since Watergate we gave taken a back seat and have allowed republicans /right wingers to control the agenda
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 06:04 PM
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20. Please, no, never "threw Weiner under the bus."
You do not say it.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 06:09 PM
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21. Is He Being Sincere?
Or just a douche?
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 06:12 PM
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22. You are throwing bricks at a steel wall, not worth the effort
EVERYONE got their pound of flesh, and it will happen again, and the Left will join in hand wringing and wailing until the violator is usurped, and the pukes will laugh under a mission accomplished sign.
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GentryDixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 06:54 PM
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24. It's a cold day in hell.
Never, ever thought I would be in agreement with racist Pat Buchanan. He is spot on about the wimpy Dems that are our party of today. So sad.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 12:32 AM
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