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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 05:22 PM
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Oh Boy... 'Obama/GOP Trade Deal Looks Set' - FDL
Edited on Tue Jun-28-11 05:41 PM by WillyT
Obama/GOP Trade Deal Looks Set
By: David Dayen - FDL
Tuesday June 28, 2011 1:02 pm

<snip>

The White House has just released a set of facts sheets on a trade package that would include the three free trade deals negotiated by the Bush Administration, with Colombia, South Korea and Panama, along with a renewal of trade adjustment assistance for displaced workers. Press Secretary Jay Carney released this statement:

President Obama has fought for an ambitious trade agenda that doubles exports in five years, levels the playing field for American workers, and reflects American values. As part of that agenda, he has fought for Trade Adjustment Assistance for those American workers who lose their jobs due to increased imports or outsourcing. As a result of extensive negotiations, we now have an agreement on the underlying terms for a meaningful renewal of a strengthened TAA. The President embraces these critical elements of TAA needed to ensure that workers have the best opportunity to get good jobs that keep them in the middle class. Now it is time to move forward with TAA and with the Korea, Colombia, and Panama trade agreements, which will support tens of thousands of jobs.


It’s kind of fitting that a series of corporate-friendly trade deals purporting to create jobs has been combined with TAA, which helps workers who lose their jobs… due to corporate-friendly trade deals. Why else would you need TAA, if not for these new trade deals or the ones like NAFTA and CAFTA which they mirror?

...

In response:

Public Citizen’s Lori Wallach, who follows trade issues closely, excoriated the deal:

For most Americans, what’s newsworthy is not that the administration is pushing Trade Adjustment Assistance (TAA), which effectively is a job burial insurance program, but that pushing a deal on TAA is being used as political cover to move more NAFTA-style trade agreements that will kill more American jobs in the first place, especially given our high unemployment rates <...>

The point that’s gotten lost in all this wrangling over TAA is that the three leftover Bush trade deals are bad in and of themselves. Even an official government study finds that the Korea deal will increase our trade deficit, and we know up front that it will kill jobs and undermine our national security. The Colombia deal will eliminate any leverage the U.S. has to combat the forced displacements and murders of unionists, Afro-Colombians, human rights defenders and others – problems that have gotten worse since this deal was signed in 2007. The Panama deal will make it harder for the U.S. government to penalize tax-dodging multinational corporations. The supplemental deal on autos for Korea, the labor “Action Plan” for Colombia, and the tax information exchange agreement for Panama are all toothless and do nothing to alleviate the aforementioned problems, as Public Citizen has extensively documented. They were all part of a political-cover kabuki dance.


<snip>

More: http://news.firedoglake.com/2011/06/28/obamagop-trade-deal-looks-set/

:evilfrown:

*******************************************************************************

And then there's THIS:

Obama Capitulates to GOP and Withdraws Labor Protection from Colombia Trade Deal
By: emptywheel
Tuesday June 28, 2011 6:09 am

<snip>

The website for the US Trade Representative still has a link to the inadequate–but nevertheless improved–labor protections that the US had demanded from Colombia to support a trade deal with the country.

But according to Sander Levin–who just announced his opposition to the deal–Obama has agreed to a Republican demand to drop such protections from the deal.

Rep. Sander Levin, D-Royal Oak, told reporters today he will oppose the free trade deal with Colombia, saying he can’t support the deal unless a plan to protect worker rights is included.

Levin criticized Republican opposition to including a reference to a labor rights action plan in implementing legislation — and the Obama administration’s acquiescence.

“Refusal to refer to the action plan on workers rights in the implementing bill is a fatal flaw,” Levin said.


<snip>

Link: http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2011/06/28/obama-capitulates-to-gop-and-withdraws-labor-protection-from-colombia-trade-deal/

:banghead:


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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 05:25 PM
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1. Still despising Obama on economic policy. (nt)
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 12:49 AM
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39. I wish I had the strength to be outraged but I can't find it. give me
until tomorrow. I am so worn out from his bullshit that I can't find the strength to express it yet.
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Lionessa Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 05:27 PM
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2. Is there really enough space between Obama and the GOP anymore to need
to separate them when discussing them? Of course Obama gave the GOP what they wanted. It's unrealistic to expect anything more from him, anymore.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 05:53 PM
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16. +1
i have given up on the corporate puppet - friend to the GOP - known as Obama. :(
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 10:24 PM
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37. +1
Words mean one thing. Deeds and action mean another.
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corpseratemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 05:27 PM
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3. The Capitulator
:o(

bye bye more jobs, here to stay high unemployment and the 2nd Great Depression
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 05:30 PM
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4. DU = HYPERSPECULATION
If there was no hyperspeculation there would be no DU
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 05:37 PM
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10. It wasn't hyperspeculation when much of DU predicted the cave-in on the Bush Tax Cuts
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 05:41 PM
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13. Even Krugman...
says that it was NOT A CAVE IN....he actually thought that overall it was a good deal for the dems...look at what he wrote back then...Obama is the only adult in the room and knows he has to look after the millions that were going to lose unemployment benefits if he did not cut a deal with the devil....you and Bernie Sanders can sit back and say fight....Obama has to think about those that need the most help....
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:16 PM
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22. millions did lose unemployement regardless
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xphile Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 01:21 AM
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42. The people who needed the most help were the 99ers. Not a damn thing was done to help them when
Obama caved on the tax cuts.

So your argument is well to put it in a word, is shit.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 08:30 AM
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50. Total bullshit.
He should have vetoed the damn thing and demanded two bills. He is a total disappointment. Plus, what about the so-called 99ers?

Rather than pushing Republican corporate rip-offs of the American workers, he should be calling for tariffs on products that have been out-sourced. In stead of signing a bill that lowered inheritance taxes he should be demanding confiscatory taxes to get back what his wealthy buddies have stolen from the American worker. He has lost the support of the unions simply because they have come to realize that he is a bag of bullshit without the balls to challenge the oligarchs.
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peace4ever Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 09:08 PM
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31. thats what his defenders always say
no matter how many times DU is right.

zzZzz
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 09:10 PM
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33. And the moment "wacky speculation" becomes reality, it changes to "old news".
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 05:32 PM
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5. If this turns out to be trure --
Screw it. Seriously. :mad:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 05:35 PM
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7. Well Levin And The UAW Oppose It
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 05:37 PM
Original message
Just saw over in LBN -- it is true.
I cannot say what I really want to say right now without getting my ass tombstoned, so I will leave it at this: :puke:
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 05:34 PM
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6. Fire Dog Lake: automatic unrecommend n/t
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The Big Vetolski Donating Member (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 05:36 PM
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8. Well, THAT'S rather narrow-minded, isn't it?
I cancel your unrecommend with a rec.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 05:37 PM
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9. Yeah that objectivity is a real bummer!
Much better to be a non-thinking fish.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 05:39 PM
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11. You would prefer the NYT?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 05:41 PM
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12. Automatic unrecommend has never been a statement of the particular story's truth or falsehood. n/t
Edited on Tue Jun-28-11 05:42 PM by LoZoccolo
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 05:59 PM
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18. Well thank you for letting us know how biased you are toward
certain progressive news outlets. Makes your one liner threads more understandable now.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:24 PM
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23. It's not a bias, but punishment for specific untruthfulness. n/t
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 10:59 PM
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38. You just said the opposite right above in another post.
Too late to edit it.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 08:10 AM
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47. The incident that provoked the punishing action occurred in the past. n/t
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 01:08 AM
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41. It's the definition of bias.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 07:37 AM
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45. Who are you punishing? nm
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xphile Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 01:22 AM
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43. So it's a statement on your intelligence?
Or lack thereof?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 05:56 PM
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17. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 05:54 AM
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44. Snap!
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:04 PM
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21. as if...
:rofl: :rofl:

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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 08:18 AM
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49. +1...nt
Sid
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 11:15 AM
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54. Truth hurts.
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Springer9 Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 05:44 PM
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14. Miss Me Yet?
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 02:44 PM
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56. !
:rofl: ... :cry:
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 05:44 PM
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15. I knew Obama would cave on anything that benefits American Workers...
Edited on Tue Jun-28-11 05:45 PM by lib2DaBone
"As part of that agenda, he (Obama) has fought for Trade Adjustment Assistance for those American workers who lose their jobs due to increased imports or outsourcing."

Like single payer.. he caved without a whimper...
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Ice Number Nine Donating Member (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:00 PM
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19. FDL? no need to read further.
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Ice Number Nine Donating Member (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:01 PM
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20. BREAKING: Obama to announce Social Security cuts in next speech!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:29 PM
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25. We don't know if he will compromise THAT MUCH...he's still negotiating.
But, I wouldn't put it past him.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 07:06 PM
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26. Welcome to DU.
Nah, just kidding.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:28 PM
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24. Yeah...looks good for Free Trade Deal with Columbia, etc. BUT...
didn't Obama mention in many speeches when he ran that he would "make Free Trade..Fairer?" I must have heard that wrong. At least so many DU'ers tell me that I heard/listened to all his speeches with my ears plugged up.

I don't know...DO YOU...what he really said? :shrug: And, frankly I'm so sick of him...I hardly care.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 08:09 PM
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27. Don't be goin' "European" on us now, Barack. Smoot and Hawley were the real progressives.
What do Europeans know about progressive government? :)
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 09:13 PM
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34. Smoot-Hawley had almost zero effect on economics during the depression.
International trade was only about 4% of GDP prior to S-H and fell to around 2% a couple of years after passage in 1930. Problem is, all trade and commerce was tanking because nobody had any freaking money! Also, trade in products not even effected by S-H along with all interstate and intrastate trade was tanking.

These fake free trade deals are written by corporate lawyers and the Wall Street crowd. Just because these scams have the name "free trade" attached to them, you support them like they were the Civil Rights Act or something. We've lost 10 million jobs and 8 trillion dollars in trade deficits because of them, and yet people like you continue to support this suicidal insanity.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 08:11 PM
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28. Good. Like Paul Krugman, I like free trade.
And I'm happy to see that assistance for displaced workers is part of the package.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 08:23 PM
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29. Um... Did You Actually READ The Post ???
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Fuddnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 09:06 PM
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30. Maybe they can get jobs with the Columbian death squads, killing union members.
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 09:18 PM
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35. What was it Einstein said?
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result"? Something like that.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 09:09 PM
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32. "Free Trade" is a SCAM invented by the RICH (Corporate Owners)..
... to avoid Labor & Environmental regulations.
They used Smooth Talking Con Men to SELL "Free Trade" to a gullible America.

There is no such thing as "Free Trade".
There is NO such thing as a "Free Market".
There is no such thing as a Giant "Invisible Hand".

Those who choose to believe in them are fools,
and those who SELL them to the Party Faithful are Charlatans.

Ross was right!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkgx1C_S6ls&feature=player_embedded


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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 12:57 AM
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40. I remember Ross Perot telling America what was really going on
BVar, thanks. :)
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 10:22 PM
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36. Obama has his USTR put a little makeup and lipstick on this pig, and then he wants us to kiss it.
Oh well, at least the hundreds of thousands of workers who lose their jobs because of this republican corporate crap can get retrained for jobs that don't exist.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 07:40 AM
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46. Sickening
Edited on Wed Jun-29-11 07:43 AM by somone
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 08:12 AM
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48. "But according to Sander Levin...." Levin supports the Korea, Panama FTA
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 12:57 PM
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55. Do you think these trade deals are a good idea?
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great white snark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 08:47 AM
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51. Unrec for the regularly mistaken source.
Not saying this particular matter is untrue-I'd just like to see it from other sources before any judgement.
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 11:12 AM
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53. It's also been in The New York Times.
Source: New York Times

Breaking News Alert
The New York Times
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 -- 5:23 PM EDT
-----

White House Announces Deal With Congress to Extend Trade Agreements

The White House said Tuesday that it had reached a deal with Congress to allow free trade agreements with South Korea, Colombia and Panama to move forward after months of delay.

The deal includes funding through 2013 for a program that provides benefits, including cash payments, to workers whose jobs are shipped overseas. The administration had refused to submit the agreements to Congress until Republicans agreed to extend the program, known as trade adjustment assistance.
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 02:48 PM
Response to Reply #51
57. When has Firedoglake been wrong? If you're going to disparage the reputation of
hard fighting progressives, then back it up with facts.
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 10:45 AM
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52. Hey Obama -- FUCK the GOP
I said FUCK THE GOP -- that's not who we fucking elected.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 02:50 PM
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58. That's almost like telling him to Go Fuck ...
Nevermind.
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 02:56 PM
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59. LOL
:spray:
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