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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:34 PM Original message |
How the hell is this a "win"? |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. Go be depressed somewhere else please. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Are you happy about this? |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Yes. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Dollars to donuts, I don't think Obama considers this a "win" |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #8 |
44. You're happy that millions of people in the poor, working and middle class are going to lose |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. I am extremely happy. The deal Obama tried to make was mostly taking away our social security. |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. No, the deal wasn't "taking away SS".. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. excuse me? and the 3 trillion dollars were coming from..... |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. I await your official link. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:52 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. he just said he was willing to give 75% of 4 trillion dollars from social security and medicare. tha... |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:46 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. Don't you get more by postponing retirement? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. no. You get two years less. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:54 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. No. There is a schedule that reduces the amount based on how much earlier you retire. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. NOW. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. of course. That keeps the same pot. nothing to do with the deal. which would remove |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. If you retire later your monthly payment may go up in a retirement plan of your own at work. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 11:13 AM Response to Reply #25 |
42. Only if you live long enough to collect it, |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #21 |
38. If you watch Obama's speech, you will see he says current retirees would not have social security cu |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. If you think you won't lose more over the consequences of default you don't know what's up. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. The corportations already said raise the debt ceiling. It will be raised. |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. I always pretend that everything you say is in Stewie's voice. nt |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
2. Soooo reminiscent of Newtie's idiotic QUIT (R) & FAIL moment... |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
3. Obama's looking like an extension till 2013 in the debt ceiling |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. Wooosh!!! n/t |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
7. BECAUSE Obama was not able to give them our social security!!! no deal. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
10. People are so used to Obama caving hard, him just being snippy is... |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Obama caved alright. but thank god the Repucans wouldn't. They wanted more blood. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. LOL! It's the definition of a political clusterfuck if there ever was one! |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #13 |
32. I know it's weird, but I am so relieved, and still so scared they still ma make some deal. |
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choie (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 06:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
36. I agree with you Poll_Blind.. |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 08:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
41. +1000. |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
16. Shut the front door. |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
17. /facepalm |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:46 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I'm not talking about the cuts |
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Leontius (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 06:04 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. No he did not do what he had to do, he did what he wanted to do |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 06:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. What was that way out? |
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Leontius (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 06:23 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. The votes to allow the Congress to disaprove of the President |
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econoclast (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
23. A "win" in the lexicon of 21st century American politics defined... |
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socialshockwave (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
24. Why is DU |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 06:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
40. Partisanship vs governing vs patriotism. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #24 |
43. "I don't like half of what they are doing, either" |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
33. I do not understand what went on in that meeting but I for one will not |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
37. I figured it out, it is a 'win' because we haven't had our heads chopped off yet. |
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Broderick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
39. Its a win because we like platitudes and playing a losing defense |
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