I can say from personal experience that Ralph Nader is an arrogant ass...

[Rabblevox]

I did a summer internship for him in DC 25 years ago. He was a jerk then, he's probably still a jerk now.

But dammit, he's RIGHT about shit.

Seriously, name one single of his "Doom and gloom" predictions that has proven to be wrong.

Just one...I dare ya.

...feeling stuck?...just one...first one is free...

Can't do it? Didn't think so. So he's a jerk who pisses in your kool-aid, but at least he pisses with accuracy and intent, which is more than I can say for about 500 congress-critters.

[meegbear]

1. Ralph Nader predicts a second term for Barack Obama

Well, that settles that then, now doesn't it?

[Rabblevox]

5. of COURSE Obama gets a 2nd term, that's really a no-brainer....

Obama wins a 2nd term with 55-60% of the popular vote, and a landslide in the Electoral College. And he continues to be the best Republican president since Wilson.

[Vanje]

12. Obama second term?

I look at it as GW Bush 4th term.

[MineralMan]

18. Obama = Bush?

What a pile of steaming bovine dung!

Here's the correct statement: Obama ≠ Bush.

[dionysus]

37. .

:rofl:

[meegbear]

13. If he's gonna win ...

then why is he saying that "... he would work to find a Democrat to challenge President Barack Obama in 2012. ..."?

What's the point if he's gonna win? Or is this one of these "Ralph Nader, Super Genius" things that regular folk just won't get.

[treestar]

15. Ask any republican and they will tell you Obama is a socialist

[11 Bravo]

24. Ummm, Wilson was a Progressive and he chose Indiana Democrat Thomas Marshall as his VP.

But other than that your post is ... something.

[bananas]

23. That was back in April, a lot has changed since then

and there's another year and a half to go.

[meegbear]

25. But dammit, he's RIGHT about shit!!1!

Are you saying that Saint Ralph is WRONG??1!

[Motown_Johnny]

30. See how easy it is to be right when you make multiple conflicting predictions

[mzmolly]

2. He said that Gore was akin to Bush on foregin and domestic

policy. He was wrong about that.

[ZombieHorde]

8. I am not so sure about that. He chose Lieberman, and Lieberman was a big

Bush fan.

[mzmolly]

19. Lieberman's voting record, at the time he was selected

was solid.

[Romulox]

9. Gore's NAFTA has been a DISASTER. There's no debate. nt

[mzmolly]

20. NAFTA hasn't been a disaster. Not enforcing NAFTA trade agreements,

has.

[Romulox]

28. LOL. You mean the legendary "SIDE AGREEMENTS"?

They don't exist. :hi: :silly:

[valerief]

3. I remember Bill Maher say sometime back on his old Politically Incorrect show

that the most unpleasant people are the liberals who are trying to do the right thing. He mentioned Jerry Brown (some may disagree now but this was years ago). He said the people you want to have dinner with (or something like that) are conservatives. (Maybe he said Democrats and Republicans, but you get my point.)

[snagglepuss]

4. .

[Rex]

6. LOL!

DU just humms along and then someone throws out a Nadarhater post! Is this Hate Ralph month? :rofl:

Darth Nadar? :rofl:

[Rabblevox]

11. I'm not a Nader-Hater (in fact, I worked for him, and wouldn't wish that experience...

on my worst enemy). But my main point is that he's right. And even being an evil, divisive, ass doesn't change the fact that he's right.

[fascisthunter]

7. you showed them!

lol

[Romulox]

10. Yeah. And America wanted to "have a beer" with W Bush.

:eyes:

[Rabblevox]

14. Hell, I'd like to have a "beer with Bush"...

just like Obama, people on both side of the aisle describe him as like-able, convivial, and congenial. But just because he pours me a beer does not mean I believe a word out of his mouth.

[proud patriot]

16. I voted for him in 96 ... NEVER AGAIN ! NEVER

We need instant runoff voting across this nation before I will ever contemplate voting 3rd party ever again.

[johnaries]

17. Which of his "predictions" have come true?

:shrug:

[LWolf]

21. He seems to be right more often than too many elected Democrats.

:(

[bananas]

22. sorry - unrecced it before reading the second sentence.

Thought it was another Nader-bashing thread.

[bvar22]

26. When Ralph Nader talks, everybody should listen,

but nobody should vote for him.

[EFerrari]

36. Sounds right to me. He's briliant and has more good ideas

before lunch than most people have in their lifetime. But that's a different realm than elections.

[Odin2005]

27. We have Nader to thank for safe cars. The haters should remember that.

[Romulox]

29. Nader didn't have SHIT to say about the runaway Toyotas, though.

Did he? :shrug:

[JNelson6563]

39. Yeah, he did some good. A REALLY long time ago.

What's he been up to the last 20 years besides being a self-promoting asshole? Take as much space as you need for your answer.


Julie

[hfojvt]

31. here you go - Ralph Nader election night 2000

predicting a huge upsurge in progressive power and influence http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aILa6JmGAiU

[stlsaxman]

32. alerted.

This ain't "Nader Underground"...

[white_wolf]

34. Wow. I can't believe you actually altered this.

I guess we should all just toe the party line and vote for the democrats no matter how right wing they have become? I'll pass.

[Rabblevox]

40. paranoid much? no one has said "Vote Nader", just fucking listen to him, because he is correct...

about most of what he says, and has been for decades.

[Motown_Johnny]

33. Didn't he predict his own victory during his presidential campaign?

If so then clearly he was very very wrong.

[EFerrari]

35. A lot of, if not most, leaders have huge egos. Goes with the territory. n/t

[JNelson6563]

38. He's an asshole & will always be. Can't take the first step to fix it.