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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 06:24 PM
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Quote of the day: "S&P might do something stupid."
Even though the major rating agencies have reiterated France's AAA rating, "there's growing concern that France could get downgraded," said Tom Schrader, managing director at Stifel Nicolaus. "There's fear that S&P might do something stupid."



You mean, stupider than a $2 trillion math error???

Or, maybe, is it the sense that S&P has stopped simply assessing credit-worthiness impartially, and is now beginning to use their rating as a weapon to coerce countries into re-shaping their economic system in the direction S&P might prefer?

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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 06:31 PM
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1. Meh. I don't fault them.
I think it was stupid for congress to ask CBO to score the debt deal with the assumption that the Bush tax cuts would expire in 2012.

S&P said "we'll believe it when we see it" and took that assumption out of their analysis.

Given the last 3 years, who are you banking on being correct?
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 09:52 PM
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5. I absolutely fault them...
...for "changing the rules" this time. How many times has the debt ceiling been raised without a question from the credit rating agencies? And where were their voices when Bush was cutting taxes while carrying on two "off-budget" wars? The question has always been simply "would the U.S. be able to pay its bond obligations?" Is there any doubt that the answer to this was and remains affirmative? The only fear at this time was that we would default, not because we couldn't pay, but because Boehner and the teabaggers wouldn't let us pay. So why does S&P suddenly change the rules and start demanding specific economic policies ("cut $4 trillion or else") this time around, if not that it has decided to "be stupid" and bully insufficiently-capitalistic governments into toeing the line or risking economic disaster?

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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 06:46 PM
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2. I think the quote was a compliment
"Something stupid" is less bad than "Something really stupid".
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 06:52 PM
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3. Does the S and P stand for
Stu & Pid?
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lonestarlib Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:10 PM
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4. They're pushing Italy awfully hard.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 10:39 PM
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6. Perhaps they'd like to borrow my TI-86 calculator for instance..
Seems theirs has a problem of some sort...

:rofl:
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