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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 02:33 PM
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Wisconsin Elections bankrolled by the Koch Brothers for about 25 million.
Plus another election had it's results blocked by Waukesha's Kathy Nicholas, D. Sandy Pasch goes from leading by around 1100 votes to losing a few hours later via A.P at around 1:00 a.m. The tools the koch's used was their money, Kathy Nicholas, GAB specially written software for kathy that continues to have her be the last to report votes via accenture.


http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/john-nichols-tammy-baldwin-was-right-ask-j


Despite his announcement to work together after eight months of stress for the working people of Wisconsin, he signs a Rovian redistricting bill that ensures Republican majorities on Election night.... I don't trust Walker to know what it means to work together..... And I don't trust the GAB or Kathy Nicholas....

I do trust the hard working people of Wisconsin not to be hoodwinked by these "Human Errors" in our voting system. Don't let them get away with it...

http://www.colbertnation.com/full-episodes/thu-august-4-2011-anthony-bourdain




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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 02:37 PM
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1. Election integrity is important, but so also is avoiding false accusations and credibility loss
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 02:39 PM by L. Coyote
by making unsupported statements like yours.

UNREC: If you read DU a bit more carefully, you would not make this posting.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:15 PM
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2. You are claiming the Koch boy-O PuppetMasters (R) did not pump megabucks into the election?
whazzat?
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 11:32 AM
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29. FALSE in OP: "election had it's results blocked by Waukesha's Kathy Nicholas"
You can read what I am claiming plainly enough without insinuation in a question.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 10:10 PM
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6. I'm surprised that after all the money being pumped into Wisconsin you have not read about it
yourself...
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 11:33 AM
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30. I'm surprised you do not know how much I have written about it.
Edited on Fri Aug-12-11 11:40 AM by L. Coyote
L. Coyote Donating Member Thu Aug-11-11 09:43 AM

Some $30 million was spent by outside groups on the Wisconsin recall
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1718374

In fact, if people read the recent posts list in GD, this thread would not even have originated because I just had posted the topic myself!
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:04 PM
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8. I don't think your from Wisconsin, and may have missed this great one...
http://scottwalkerwatch.com/2011/08/05/pr-watch-shows-evidence-of-koch-brothers-funding-walker-into-governorship/



There is damning evidence that Walker has been purchased by the Koch Brothers. Besides them spending millions in the Recall elections, their history of funding Walker goes back years:

Walker was elected just over three months ago on the heels of an exceptionally expensive gubernatorial race in the Badger State, fueled by groups funded by the Koch brothers, David and Charles. David Koch, the son of a radical founding member of the John Birch Society, which has long been obsessed with claims about socialism and advocated the repeal of civil rights laws, personally donated $1 million to the Republican Governors Association (RGA) in June of last year. This was the most he had ever personally given to that group. (Fellow billionaire Rupert Murdoch matched Koch’s donation to the RGA with a $1 million donation from his company News Corporation, parent company of FOX “News” Channel.)

Screen Shot of RGAs 5 million Investment in WalkerThe RGA in turn spent $5 million in the race, mostly on TV ads attacking Walker’s political opponent, Democratic Mayor Tom Barrett. As this photo shows, the RGA described itself as a “key investor” in Walker’s victory. In its congratulations, the RGA notes that it “ran a comprehensive campaign including TV and internet ads and direct mail. The series of ads were devastating to Tom Barrett … All told, RGA ran 8 TV ads and sent 8 pieces of mail for absentee, early voting, and GOTV, totaling 2.9 million pieces.”
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 11:35 AM
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31. Actually, news of Wisconsin reaches the rest of the world and I'm not Rip van Winkle
See above.

Interesting how people like to shoot back without careful consideration of the dialogue they critique.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 02:00 PM
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34. So you read and you know money is pouring into Wisconsin, and you know the Koch brothers are
financing scott walker so what kind of consideration are you expecting....
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:24 PM
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3. Good! I'm glad that they blew 25 million. Let them keep doing that
all around the Nation. In the long run, we've got more money than they do. There are so many more of us.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:26 PM
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4. Kathy's software wasn't a variable here.
We had observers watching at every precinct in Waukesha County. They called in precinct totals as they came in. I suspect that DPW compared the observer totals to numbers released by Nickolaus and were ready, willing and anxious to pounce if there was any variation. I trust our observers and the DPW. Waukesha County Democrats are among the finest.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 10:32 PM
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7. Kathy Nicolas has withheld important info. from DPW workers before...
Last april Ramona, DPW, was not even told about the computer problems and had no idea and put out a statement that indicated Kathy had not engaged in any number issues... In fact to this date, A March 30 poll ticket that came from a district that supposedly doesn't use electronic voting systems magically appeared... The problem is that many DPW don't have the computer skills that Kathy Nicolas has or the special software privileges...
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 06:57 AM
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16. DPW doesn't need "software skills" to count.
Again, in *this* election we had people gathering the totals at each precinct and calling them in. DPW had the precinct totals before Kathy did.

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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 08:12 AM
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24. The reason Wisconsin needs more computer savvy people is not for counting,
Edited on Fri Aug-12-11 08:39 AM by midnight
but when they interface with the Kathy Nicolas of the state.... But then getting back to percent totals... there would be questions about what machines were used. Many variables of manipulation of those totals....But your comment makes me curious as to why the DPW had the totals yet there was an announcement that Kathy was blocking the release of this info... Even the crowd in Madison knew this was moment of concern....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiSR7rBphsM&feature=related
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:47 PM
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5. Their agenda needs to be challenged everywhere...break the bank!
I'd encourage every state in the nation facing Koch, Bradley, Club for Growth, Citizens for Prosperity, ALEC sponsored anti-worker legislation to force them to defend their putsch.

As was once said about the US budget...you spend 10 million here... and twenty million there... and pretty soon you are talking about REAL money.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:08 PM
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9. Koch moved into Green Bay in 2005. But this is my big worry...
Check out Section 44.16.896 of Wisconsin Senate Bill 11, which reads–

(1) Notwithstanding ss. 13.48 (14) (am) and 16.705 (1), the department may sell any state−owned heating, cooling, and power plant or may contract with a private entity for the operation of any such plant, with or without solicitation of bids, for any amount that the department determines to be in the best interest of the state. Notwithstanding ss. 196.49 and 196.80, no approval or certification of the public service commission is necessary for a public utility to purchase, or contract for the operation of, such a plant, and any such purchase is considered to be in the public interest and to comply with the criteria for certification of a project under s. 196.49 (3) (b).

What this says is that the State of Wisconsin can sell or contract out management of state-owned heating, cooling and power plants without the requirement that bids for such a sale or leasing be solicited so as to maximize what the government can pocket through such an arrangement.

Put another way, the state can pick who they want and make whatever deal they want without anyone else having a chance to bid on the deal.http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2011/02/22/a-secret-deal-between-gov-walker-and-koch-brothers-buried-in-state-budget/
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:14 PM
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10. Hartmann was saying they were "helicopter-ing" money in to buy AD space ---
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 06:39 AM
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14. I'm afraid with the new corporations are people meme is going to
make this worse...
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True Blue Democrat Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:16 PM
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11. And the next Koch Brothers bill will show that the IRS wants
all of their money, assets, capital gains, subsidaries, everything fully taxed by 100%.

Meaning the Koch Brothers will be broke.

And it will be fully audited to the last number.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 12:30 AM
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12. I read that the organization ALEC that writes all the corporate bills
should/could be audited? I'll look for the specifics.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 11:01 AM
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28. Haven't really caught up with ALEC yet -- especially in any full sense ...
Keep on tellin' it -- hope to catch up with you soon -- !!!



:)

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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 01:43 PM
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33. Thanks... There is just an never ending trail to their plans...
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 01:06 AM
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13. This is outrages. Sen. Alberta Darling's 8th District at a staggering $7.9 million —
As money continues to pour into Wisconsin's recall elections, much of it from around the country, five of the races have already broken the record for spending in a state Senate race, according to the Wisconsin Democracy Campaign.

The nonprofit group, which tracks campaign spending and other election issues, estimates total spending so far by all parties in Sen. Alberta Darling's 8th District at a staggering $7.9 million — well over double the previous record of $3 million, set in a northwestern Wisconsin district in 2000. Recent state campaign spending forms reported more than $1.5 million in spending by the Darling and her challenger, Rep. Sandy Pasch, but far more money is being spent by outside groups on both the left and right, and Wisconsin Democracy Campaign's new estimates include all that money.

Mike McCabe, the group's executive director, said that in all, spending has already topped $30 million in the races, and could go as high as $35 million to $40 million. Spending reported to the state by candidates totals $5.1 million, with some $13 million by registered outside groups such as We Are Wisconsin, a coalition of union groups. He estimates that unregistered groups, such as the conservative Club for Growth Wisconsin and the American Federation for Children "are pretty much equaling or slightly surpassing the registered groups." He said his organization bases those estimates on their surveys of TV advertising, direct mail and other forms of campaign spending.

The Milwaukee area district where Darling (R-River Hills) faces Pasch (D-Whitefish Bay) has been the most expensive of the state's eight remaining recall races partly because Milwaukee advertising rates are higher than in the rest of the state — but also because Darling is co-chair of the Legislature's Joint Finance Committee. Because of this, beating her would be a major prize for Democrats, and protecting her seat is a key objective for Republicans. In a conference call this week, Wisconsin Democratic Party chairman Mike Tate referred to her seat as the "crown jewel" of the races.http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/allpolitics.html?tag=Recalls
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 11:38 AM
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32. Milwaukee is a very significant portion of Wisconsin, and the campaign
reaches outside the lines of the district, influencing the whole state. This still is a campaign for the hearts and minds of all Wisconsin and all the USA as 2012 approaches. The price of appearing to loss one's political base is very high going into a new general election round.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 06:55 AM
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15. Is her position appointed or elected?
Getting rid of HER should be of vital interest, and reason alone to pull out all the stops & win win win :)
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 07:00 AM
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17. Elected. And getting rid of her won't turn this county blue. I assure you.
This is a wealthy, affluent, white-collar, private sector, bible-thumping county. I have never met a Republican from Waukesha County (and I know a lot of them) who is running from Walker. Not one. In fact, they are fucking RABID here.

By and large the Republicans jumping ship are the ones who are public sector workers, there aren't many of those in these parts. Nate Silver parsed the numbers at the county level, and if he went to the city level you'd see those are mostly in 2 or 3 communities here.

The other group jumping ship are union workers. Again, very few here. And honestly, even the union workers here are private sector hard-core Republicans who hate public sector workers and will cut off their noses to spite their faces.

This is a Repubican stronghold. The land of McMansions gaudily built on beautiful lakes and megachurches and private academy for their kids and country clubs and gated communities and confederate flags (YES, I swear) proudly waving in the wind on the homes in the "poorer" areas.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 07:18 AM
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18. That's kind of the way it is here.. we are a very red county
and will be stuck with Mary Bono forever:grr:

she should not even be allowed to run .. she's married to a guy who';s a congressman from FLORIDA, and they live pretty much full time in DC.. She kept Sonny's house in Palm Springs so she can stay elected:grr:
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 07:20 AM
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19. I feel obligated to now mention the GOOD stuff about this place.
Edited on Fri Aug-12-11 07:23 AM by PeaceNikki
It's absolutely BEAUTIFUL. We have quarries, lakes and trails carved out by iceburgs, natural springs, charming downtown areas with incredible hometown appeal and love. Small shops owned by mom n pop, winding roads on rolling hills. It's safe, comfortable, my community is very well-maintained, there are good schools and, even though I very much disagree politically with many, the people are AMAZINGLY full of Wisconsin pride, hospitality and kindness.

And most of all... it's home. :)

ETA: We also have the third most Democrats of all 72 counties in the state. Raw numbers, not percentage obviously. We're right behind Dane and Milwaukee. And the Waukesha County Democrats are amazing.

And here, this is fun:

General Historical Information:
A drive through Waukesha County uncovers evidence of the great glaciers that once covered the area. Lush rolling hills, abundant lakes and limestone quarries are just some of the natural wonders. Many of Waukesha County's parks feature the lakes and hills created by the glacier.

Waukesha County was home to prehistoric Indians, including the Effigy Mound Builders and Potawatomi people, and was prized by fur traders in the 1700's. When settlers from the east arrived in the mid-1800's, they found four to six foot earthen mounds in the shape of birds and turtles, along with conical and linear mounds. Three conical mounds are visible today in front of the City of Waukesha Library. Increase Lapham, considered founder of the U.S. Weather Bureau, surveyed the mounds. The highest point in Waukesha County is named for him.

As far back as the 1700's, the native people told fur traders about the area's mineral springs. In 1868 Col. Richard Dunbar promoted what he believed were healing properties of Waukesha's water, which launched Waukesha County's “Springs Era”. Through 1910, people traveled cross-country to drink the water. Accounts tell us that up to 25 passenger trains arrived daily. Elaborate “springhouses” were built above the natural springs. Today's visitors can see the last of the original springhouses on the Moor Downs Golf Course, Frame Park and Springs Park.

In the late 1800's, many cities experienced devastating fires that destroyed early wood frame buildings. Waukesha County's quarries provided the stone for rebuilding, and railroads transported the stone to Chicago and other cities with fire damage.

Some of the famous people that called Waukesha County home include Les Paul, the inventor of the electric guitar, and 1930's Broadway stars Alfred Lunt and Lynn Fontanne.

Once dubbed “Cow County USA”, Waukesha County has developed a diverse industrial base. Some of the world's leading manufacturers and businesses have corporate facilities located in the area.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 07:24 AM
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20. My friend lived in West Allis, a zillion years ago & we had the BEST
Edited on Fri Aug-12-11 07:24 AM by SoCalDem
bratwurst in the world there:).. We lived in Michigan City, Indiana for 7 years and always planned to go to the Dells..never made it.. We lived less than a mile from Lake Michigan and went to the beach 3 or 4 times in 7 years:) dead fish-cold water..meh!
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 07:25 AM
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21. Oh yay! I am heading to the State Fair in S'tallis today!
CREAM PUFFS!!!

And they have the BEST farmer's market in the state; going there tomorrow! :)

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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 08:21 AM
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25. My one and only trip to the Dells was an unexpected side trip...
We were driving late one evening and we had some kids in the car that saw the lights, and that was it.... We all decided to stop for the night because non of the adults had been to the Dells either... I enjoyed a trip around the dells via the duck boat ride. Wiscosnin is so beautiful... We must keep the Koch brothers from destroying it...
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 09:34 AM
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27. After working on John Kerry's race in Waukesha I was
told that Waukesha was not always a red district... So I heard this first hand from the old timers.... However.... this age group needs back up from the colleges in that area.... There needs an infusion of the talents and new technologies that are this communities untapped treasures... Other wise the Bev Harris of Waukesha reins supremely...
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 07:50 AM
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23. This women's anti women health care policies and the fact that
she is co-chair of the powerful budget-crafting Joint Finance Committee (JFC), means a lot of damage udder this extremist in the Gov. mansion...


With this direction she did this:Darling personally drafted a motion that ended state support for Planned Parenthood centers. These nine centers can no longer participate in the state's family planning program, which provides sexually transmitted disease treatment, cancer screenings and contraceptive services.


http://www.expressmilwaukee.com/article-15516-will-the-real-albert.html
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 07:29 AM
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22. Scumbag Walker os on Joe Scum right now
:puke:
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 09:14 AM
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26. What is he saying... He will not hand over Wisconsin to Koch brotheres
via a no bid contract?
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