Perry-Rubio..count on it

[SoCalDem]

Perry gets the wild-eyed nutcase teabaggers/evangelical zealots/gun-nuts, and of course the anti-Obama southerners east to west. He also gets the corporate greedy-bastards from all over who see opportunity for themselves in Texas, if he wins, and even if he loses (happy exchange for their campaign support, because if he loses, he will still be governor)

Rubio is the token Hispanic ( as a half-Cuban person, I KNOW that Cubans mostly do not consider themselves as Hispanic, as much as they do Europeans who happened to speak Spanish & lived in Cuba).

Rubio will be the "win Florida" avatar, and as a fluent Spanish-speaker he will also be in charge of wooing Mexican-Americans, Puerto Ricans, and all Spanish speaking people. He's comfy with the language and knows which buttons to push to get them on his side.

[begin_within]

1. I believe Perry is "the chosen one"

They are handling him exactly like they handled GWB in 1999, parading him around at state fairs, arranging photo-ops and all that... exactly like I saw them do with GWB at the Del Mar Fair in June 1999... and 19 months later he was taking the oath of office. It's pretty clear that Perry will be the GOP nominee. I think they are only keeping Bachmann in the spotlight because her nuttiness makes Perry look normal and electable by comparison.

[truebrit71]

20. I'm not sure it will work though...this whole 'presidenting' bizness is hard work...

...and I'm not sure that Goodhair is up to doing that much heavy lifting...Personally I think he will get bored and drop out, especially if Batshit McCorndog wins a few primaries and the race becomes tougher...

Right now he is the new kid on the block and so he is basking in the limelight that is being freely given to him...that will change...

[begin_within]

24. I thought the same of Bush too.

All he really had to go on was the name recognition because his father had been President. And all Bush II ever was was the "PR guy" while Cheney did the dirty work. I hope, of course, that Perry falters and sputters and is left in the dust by this time next year. But it looks to me like the serious machinations are being operated for his sake at the moment.

[truebrit71]

25. With Bush it was obvious from the start that he was the chosen one....

...even when he said some really stupid shit at debates...Perry has been fairly well scolded for his inappropriate comments about the Fed chairman right out of the gate...

I think TPTB have yet to determine who they want to run, Perry or Mittens, because they too want to pick the least worst in case they actually do wind up winning...

Ordinarily re-election shouldn't even be a question, but this time the incumbent is facing a hostile enemy, a biased (and even more hostile) fourth estate, a faltering economy and a record that is not easy to defend...

There is a very real danger that Obama won't win and TPTB have suddenly figured out that they can't allow the Teahadists to have their way this season so that they could be blamed for the loss when their batshit crazy candidate fails, they now have to figure out which one of this collection of rabid lunatics currently in the race will be easiest to control, whilst still being mental enough to get the knuckle-dragger's votes..

[Firebrand Gary]

2. I agree with the second part, Establishment/Rubio

However I think that rove will do whatever he has to in the interest of keeping Perry from the nomination. Rubio will surely be on the ticket.

Here is a thread I posted earlier.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1753625

[OHdem10]

3. and they hope he can attract Hispanics.

[ingac70]

4. Neither of Rubio's parents were born in the US, so.....

Messing with assholes that say Obama can't be Pres 'cause his Daddy wasn't born here will be fun.

[MrDiaz]

17. LMAO

it's funny how we always sink to their level when it comes to idiotic shit like this. But I'm sure that i'm the only one that sees it this way.

[ingac70]

18. It sends them into a tizzy. I love it.

Like stating abortion is illegal in Iran and Saudi Arabia and then asking the prolifer why he wants to be like "the terrorists". That one is always good for a few laughs.

:evilgrin:

[MrDiaz]

19. LOL

right, its nice to know that i'm not the only one who notices this.

[bullwinkle428]

22. This is probably the only thing stopping Perry from going

"full-metal birther" on Obama! His handlers have probably beaten this into his head behind closed doors, in an effort to explain the "long game" to him...

[EFerrari]

5. FYI, the term "hispanic" refers to the Iberian penninsula

and has little to do with American Latinos who are of indigenous, European and African extraction.

Latinos will not vote for Rubio because they rightfully see the Republicans as racist assholes. Maybe some portion of the Cuban exile community will and maybe here and there will be small pockets of Latino votes for the Republicans but Democrats will pull the Latino vote as they always do, albeit nowhere in the same numbers as 2008 because Obama's immigration policy has been a disaster for Latino families.

[SoCalDem]

6. Hispanic/Latino/ Iberian/Mestizo/ Mayan/Toltec/whatever.

Spanish-speakers will be his responsibility.. Republicans are crafty linguists(spare the the inevitable pun here)..

By the time they are done, I would bet that there will be a significant amount of people who will believe that Obama is to blame for every slight (perceived or real) since the Spanish-American War.

Rubio is slick, soft spoken and telegenic...dangerous to the nth degree..

[EFerrari]

11. Well, Obama is responsible for his immigration policy

which is more draconian that Bush's was. But that's not the issue most Latinos will vote. They will vote jobs like most working people.

And because Spanish speakers are not stupid, they will not vote for Rubio. Barring some big change on the jobs front from Obama, the turnout will be low. Rubio may do well in Miami but he won't do well in a lot of blue places like Los Angeles or red places where he can't both court the "hispanic" vote AND appease racists at the same time.

[SoCalDem]

14. I agree that Obama's immigration policy stinks.. and if there is a low turn out

ANY flips to the "R" side could be bad news..

I just keep hoping that the Rickster plants his bog ole boot in his mouth so much, they do not select him.

or maybe a well-placed meteor:)

[EFerrari]

27. Latinos and youth are going to be hard for Obama this time.

I looked at polls over the weekend, and it looks like his support is down to about 50% in both groups.

Yeah, let's hope Rick Perry eats his footwear.

[Scurrilous]

7. There will be no wooing.

Mexican-Americans, Puerto Ricans, and other Spanish speaking voters are not going to be wooed by that fascist Cuban-American fuckwit.

Those other groups, most of whom are registered Democrat, loathe the Miami Cuban Mafiosa (who are mostly Republicans).

[SoCalDem]

8. They only have to get a small percentage of low-information voters

Look at all the votes that W got by trickery.. Lots of people in US have notoriously short memories..

I don't think they will win, but I do think that will be the ticket.

[GSLevel9]

9. I don't think Rubio is interested.. nt

[EFerrari]

13. If you remember, Rove claimed a lot of votes that Bush did not get.

Rove put out a bunch of stories that turned out to be bs. No gains among Latinos, not the military vote, not the student vote and no one could ever find those "values" voters that Rove claimed put him over the top in Ohio. lol

Rubio is someone to watch but it might be that BushCo will save him for Jeb.

[SoCalDem]

31. You might be right.. I think Jeb's "turn" would be '16

but his parents will probably be dead by then, & he might not run.. Those Bushies would love to have a photographic record of Wife of pres, & mother of TWO presidents..with Babs & her "boyzzzz"..

when they are dead & gone & the money divided, there will be ample opportunity to just sit back & watch the money roll in.. .. time will tell..Maybe jeb's happy doing what he;s doing..away from the spotlight

Christie will probably be the "darling" in '16

[Safetykitten]

10. I'm thinking Perry/Christie or Perry and a "northerner" to be named later.

[SoCalDem]

15. Christie's ego would never let him be second-string..

I think he;s sitting this one out and will get himself a trainer in 2013 or so, and be fit and ready in '15 to hit the ground running for the '16 election...when there's an open field for a big ole bully like him

[TransitJohn]

29. Perry/Pawlenty. eom

n/t

[Douglas Carpenter]

12. probably - but time will of course tell

[cali]

16. I wrote the same OP last week.

If I was a repub strategist, it's the ticket I'd want. Shudder.

[PeaceNikki]

21. I think it'll be Romney/Ryan

[Shagbark Hickory]

23. Rubio's pretty young in his career but as a general rule, they need to find someone w/out skeletons

in their closet

[RockaFowler]

26. Cool 2 guys with bad hair

Rubios rug keeps moving and Governor Goodhair has a pretty nasty 'do.

[watercolors]

28. Don't see either of them on he GOP ticket!!

[Broderick]

30. I think the VP

choice on the GOP side will be Bob Mcdonnell. Just my hunch. I don't think it will be Rubio, even though Florida seems to be the make or break state at this point. They need Virginia too, and he is relatively popular. Governors seem to be the GOP method.

[cherokeeprogressive]

32. I think Ryan/Rubio is more likely. n/t