Where have you gone Vice President Albert Gore, a Nation turns it's lonely eyes to you

[DainBramaged]

:cry:

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

1. He's over at Current TV

and doing a damn good job

[Kennah]

2. He's got The Climate Reality Project

http://climaterealityproject.org/

[MADem]

3. No, the nation does no such thing. The Tipper Divorce and the "massage thing" have left a stain.

It doesn't matter what's true, and what's not true. Perception is reality, particularly when an accusation is followed by a quick, no bullshit, git-er-done divorce.

Al Gore is getting old. He's fat, he's contented, he's settled into private life. Don't look to him for anything more than punditry, because he will not deliver.

We have an incumbent President, that's where to look.

[blkmusclmachine]

4. "We have an incumbent President, that's where to look."

If only that were true..

[MADem]

5. It is true. Just because he doesn't grant all of your personal wishes, does not mean

that he doesn't have the interests of the Democratic Party and the nation as a whole at the forefront of his thoughts and actions.

You can't always get what YOU want. He's not a magic fairy or Santa, he's the Chief Executive of the nation. He's only one piece of the whole, which includes a divided Congress.

[Creideiki]

6. Condescension! How...motivating!

I'm not the one you need to convince--it's my partner. And YOU have to motivate him. He's so angry at the Hoover, I mean Obama, Administration, he can hardly speak straight when the subject comes up.

Then again, the unemployment rate for people in his age range is obscene.

[MADem]

26. Oh, please.

I could say "Poutrage--how overly dramatic" but that would be stooping to your level.

I don't care if you are motivated or not. Or your partner is unmotivated. Really, I don't. But if you're not a Democrat, stop shitting on those of us who are. That's all I really want.

Everyone has it tough in this economy, old, young, in-between. The only thing worse than being old and looking for work is being old, black, and maybe female as well. Employers are not kind to these demographics. I don't know a soul who hasn't been adversely impacted by the current economy. That said, if you think, in your wildest dream, that some uber-lefty progressive would have any more luck with the Congress we have right now, and not get his ass handed to him while being slapped upside the head, you should sell the shit you're smoking because it is plainly good stuff, and will pay for your health insurance bills for the next year or more. All a fringe President would do is unify the Congress against him.

CONGRESS makes law. That's where you start. The Tea Party jerks 'got' that, even though they don't get much else.

[Creideiki]

36. More condescension.

At least I have two Democratic Senators.

How about you?

PS--there's a demographic that's worse than "old, black, and maybe female". Of course, that wouldn't fit your narrative, so ignore the facts.

[MADem]

38. And you inserted them in their seats with your little magic wand?

Condescending enough for you, hmmmm?

Thanks for showing us your thought process, and how you rate the "quality" of Democrats on this board by how many Democratic representatives they enjoy in their state. God help the poor posters from Utah, Wyoming, or Texas, they're fucked by your standards and clearly less "worthy."

You do know that this kind of thinking is illogical and childish, don't you? It's rather like saying the kid with the box of Froot Loops is "better" than the kid with the box of generic supermarket Cheerios.

But hey, if that's how you roll....that's how you roll. It's good of you to make your views so obvious....it helps when assigning credence (or an absence thereof) to anything you might have to say.

[Creideiki]

43. With my magic vote.

I don't rate the quality of Democrats by how many Democratic representatives they have. Only the ones who preach that other Democrats aren't upholding their part of the bargain.

Remove the beam from thine eye before attending to the mote in mine.

So yes, you're condescending attitude is insulting. You have two choices. 1) Be offended. 2) Understand what other people are telling you and attempt to persuade party leadership to wake up to the disaster they're courting. So far, you've chosen option 1 and been continually obsequious to the PTB and condescending to your fellow Democrats. I would recommend that you change that strategy.

PS--If you thought what happened to tone-deaf Martha was bad, why do you think what will happen to ever-more-tone-deaf Obama will be? Puppies and kittens?

PPS--I am now breaking the golden rule of my high school honors English teacher: casting my pearls. I think I'll choose to ignore you from now on. Not officially like an ignore list, but I warned you several times. It's up to you whether you listen.

[Creideiki]

7. Interesting. Someone from a state that doesn't even have 2 Democratic Senators

(no matter how lackluster), lecturing other people on needing to support Democrats.

There's a Biblical parable in there. Something about motes, beams, and eyes.

[MADem]

28. Where did you attempt to learn logical thought? How am I responsible for

the election of Naked Scott Brown?

I worked my fucking ass off for Maaaaaaaahtha. Tirelessly. I made more runs to the polls than Greyhound.

But thanks for playing. You really gave me some fine insight into your thought process.

How about I hold you responsible for every fucking thing that happens in YOUR state, hmmmm?

Does that make sense to you? Based on your commentary, it likely does.

[JDPriestly]

8. Just because you think he is a nice guy does not mean that Obama

is doing a good job as president, that he cares about the Democratic Party or that he has a chance to be re-elected.

I disagree with you on each of these points.

Al Gore is a viable candidate to oppose Obama in a primary.

[cali]

9. oh that's just ridiculous. Al Gore is not even remotely a viable candidate to oppose Obama in

a primary. And it couldn't be more obvious that the guy is done with politics.

[Dulcinea]

10. And who could blame him?

He got stiffed out of the presidency by a no-talent chump like Boy George. That would make anyone change careers!

[DainBramaged]

18. And Rick Perry told America he wasn't going to run, and so has Crispy Christie in NJ

So if you want to get the juices flowing, do we go with Republican light or someone who has still a true vision for America, more so than our war starting, drone firing, marijuana prosecuting, giving a war criminals a pass president?

[polmaven]

35. And Al Gore is too much of a Democrat

to run against President obam. He is much smarter than that, and will never hurt the party that way.

[Samantha]

13. I would absolutely drop everything and run to the voting booth

to cast a vote for Al Gore to be given another chance to sit in the Oval Office.

No disrespect intended to President Obama, but literally, there is no comparison between the two and some of the qualities Gore has are exactly those needed to beat back the right-wing interests in this struggle. He would have zero problem with that, unlike President Obama who seeks to pacify them.

I do not dare dream that Al Gore will ever re-enter politics again but he is my gold standard.

Sam

[SammyWinstonJack]

15. I'm trying to figure out how/why some think Obama is a nice guy?

:shrug: I think he's any thing but a nice guy. He comes across as being condescending and arrogant and that goes back to the '08 campaign. He hasn't changed,

[JVS]

16. He gave the kids a dog! C'mon!

[TBF]

23. I believe it was Teddy Kennedy who delivered on the dog promise. nt

[MADem]

29. You're wrong. He is the opposite of viable.

Of course, you're still flying a John Edwards flag as your avatar, so I can understand why you might not sense the public's profound and abiding sea change in terms of opinion vis a vis Al.

I like Al. I think he has good ideas. I'm just not stupid--he is too old and has WAY too much baggage. In addition, he has a successful private life where he can earn a hefty annual wage and eat whatever he pleases without being criticized for being too fat. He not only is not interested in doing what you suggest--not in the slightest--he would not be successful at it, no matter how much perky PR and cheerleading accompanied the effort.

The only place Al Gore would run is in your head. It's just not going to happen.

[Ignis]

24. We're back to the Pony / Magic Wand / Genie in a Bottle shit again?

:eyes:

[MADem]

30. It's not shit when people dislike a politician because they don't satisfy a

PERSONAL and impossible agenda.

Like I said--look to CONGRESS.

The President does not 'make' law, Congress does.

You want change? That's where you start.

[Ignis]

39. Calling a push for equal rights "personal wishes" is ridiculous.

There was a time when Democrats did what was right, even when it was not politically expedient.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/primary-resources/president-kennedy-civil-rights/

[polmaven]

34. Ohhhh, Thank You!!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Samantha]

12. You do not speak for the nation

Al Gore is not getting old. He is in the middle of his life.

There are many people who are constantly reminded of Al Gore and regret he was denied his right to sit in the Oval Office after winning Election 2000. I read and hear often how different things would have been, and there is no question about that.

His personal life and that of Tipper are none of our business and warrant no comment. It is their private business and has nothing to do with politics.

Al Gore is a person who will always be tremendously respected by a great number of people for his accomplishments over a 25-year period in government.

Sam

[MADem]

31. Neither do you. Tell you what--when Al Gore runs, you come git me.

I'll cheerfully take a public chastisement (that will never happen).

I'd put serious money on my being right, if Vegas were stupid enough to take my money (which they aren't).

Al Gore will not challenge Barack Obama in a primary, and he's DONE with elected political life.

If you think no one "noticed" that he and Tipper divorced after four decades of marriage, I have a bridge for sale. If you think no one "noticed" that he was accused of some rather unsavory shit around the same time as that divorce, I have yet another bridge at an even better price. If you think that the private lives of any officials running for office "warrant no comment" well, we'd all better shut up about Michelle Bachmann's closeted gay husband and his "Pray Away The Gay" school, now, hadn't we? Private lives of politicians ARE -- like it, or not -- public fodder. Angrily asserting otherwise does not change that fact.

No one is saying--well, certainly not ME, anyway--that Al Gore wasn't a great guy with wonderful ideas, and a heckuva VP, who got screwed out of the Presidency. So let's pack that little strawman up right now and put that away. But he is NOT in the "middle of his life"--unless you and he have some magic potion that enables people to live to age 126 or more. Somehow, I don't think that's the case. Sure, we've had older presidents, but Al is not terribly healthy--he's overweight, he eats bad food, and he has stopped giving a shit about how he looks. He doesn't have the stamina to run, and he also--and this is key--does not have the DESIRE to run. He makes a nice wage doing the stuff he's doing now, and he doesn't have to take crap and suffer attacks by crazies who wish him ill. You think he'd want to divest himself of the convoluted and very 'corporate' investments he's made in the last decade (he has an investment firm, ya know), to take a chance on challenging an incumbent president who is well liked by more people than a cursory reading of this site would suggest? Of course not.

It's not going to happen.

[JVS]

14. I never cared for Tipper and her anti-music/video game bullshit anyway.

[lildreamer316]

25. ...and they are divorced/separated. n/t

[MADem]

32. She got a bad rap on that. No one wanted to hear what she was actually saying.

There was a lot of hyperbole associated with her wish to enable parents to know that they might have been unknowingly buying some really nasty/violent lyrics. She was not asking for government censorship, she was asking for the music industry to regulate itself and let clueless old people have an idea what they were buying for their eight year old kids.

She was unfairly accused of trying to impose government censorship on the music industry, but that wasn't the goal at all. It didn't end up being the result, either. The industry set their own standard, and it didn't hurt sales at all (it helped in some cases).

Hell, I don't understand half of the lyrics these kids mumble nowadays.

And from a kid's perspective, if you're not sneaking around doing stuff your parents don't want you to do--playing the 'bad' video game or listening to the 'bad' music--how the hell are you going to do a little rebelling against the parents?

[Tennessee Gal]

11. As much as I like Al Gore and supported him wholeheartedly in

every election, even I believe that his time has passed. He has no interest in running for public office.

He won the presidency and had it stolen from him. Why would he ever choose to run after that?

[Romulox]

17. Al Gore was point man for NAFTA, and is a "do as I SAY, not as I DO" hypocrite.

Note the MULTIPLE SUVs outside!

[DainBramaged]

19. Would we have been better off today if Al Gore had been President?

NAFTA be damned?

[Romulox]

20. We would have been better off if Al Gore had run a credible campaign

AL GORE is at fault for Al Gore's shortcommings, including the dismal campaign he ran in 2000. And all the "third way" right wing economic crap.

AL GORE.

[WI_DEM]

21. He could have run again in '04 or tried in '08--but didn't. His time has passed.

[DainBramaged]

22. So you are the judge of times past?

:eyes:

[Dreamer Tatum]

27. Maybe into one of his massive homes, or on one of his yachts?

Or maybe on a private jet?

Someplace opulent...I know that much.

[JI7]

33. he could have been President, too bad stupid motherfuckers said he was just like Bush

fuck those assholes. making people think Bush wasn't so bad by saying he was like Gore.

[MADem]

37. It's all just a little bit o'history repeating....... nt

[TheBigotBasher]

40. Right, so Al Gore

is suddenly more "progressive" than Barack Obama andwill challenge him in a Primary.

From a man who shied away from the too left Clinton campaign?

You must snort some good stuff.

[madokie]

41. Oh what a different world we would be living in today

[cottonseed]

42. Why? He's the same guy as Obama.