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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 07:51 AM
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Got this from Naomi Wolf about a legal ruling in my state.
This seems quite whack-a-doodle in its conceptual thinking.

3. Judicial Review Judge, Paul C. Ridgeway, Wake County General Court Of Justice, Superior Court Division, upheld a lower court ruling that most Public Officials / Agencies are "private entities." Judge Ridgeway upheld the earlier (1.17.11) ruling of lower court Judge J. Randall May in... Class v. NORTH CAROLINA, Case No. 10 DOT 7047 (now known as 11 CVS 1559).

EFFECTIVE IN ALL 50 STATES:
North Carolina Police Departments all over the state have warned all their officers to put their personal property (houses, land, cars and other assets) into someone else's name because they may now be subject to lawsuits from the People of North Carolina.
The warning was issued in response to the recent ruling that upheld that the localPolice Departments in North Carolina are classified as "private entities" and NOT connected to the state of North Carolina.


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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 07:57 AM
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1. This means police are individual private entities?
that is such a strange ruling.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 08:09 AM
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3. A chickensh*t ruling from a law suit averse state I suppose.
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Fantastic Anarchist Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 10:45 AM
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9. I'm weirded out about the language of the ruling, too.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 08:03 AM
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2. Wouldn't that be considered evading taxes?
And wouldn't they be unable to claim deductions for property taxes on their federal and state returns?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 12:26 PM
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12. It would create interesting dynamics. Maybe they could claim
them as gifts.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 08:45 AM
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4. It sounds like people will be held personally liable for their actions,
rather than sending the bill to the tax payers. They lose Governmental immunity, better take out some big insurance policies.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 10:20 AM
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6. But no accountability by or to the state from actions by persons and agencies under it.
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seacaves Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 10:04 AM
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5. So local officials do not have to follow the laws the Governor
makes--or what his cabinet dictates?


Such as in local police departments, local firehouses, local public health department, local school districts and their teachers, etc.


Not sure where is going--seems to be overreaching.


Yet, in some cases would be wonderful
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 10:40 AM
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7. Sound a bit similar to the coal mine owners who get to pass liability
to the workers and stay safe from lawsuits themselves.

Maybe the North Carolina Police Dept. should Occupy North Carolina.

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 10:43 AM
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8. Yep.
An accountability issue no doubt.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 10:55 AM
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10. Don't think I would take any orders
from someone who was not accountable. Even to "move this vehicle over there."
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 12:13 PM
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11. Unless they could shoot you with no accountability if you didn't.
:)
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 06:20 PM
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13. I'm wondering if that is valid?
They are operating under color of the law. The local and state government hire and authorize their law enforcement to enforce the laws. How are they immune to legal process?
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