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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:24 PM
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Robert Reich just tweeted his guess for the upcoming election...
RBReich Robert Reich
2012 race: Romney/Rubio vs. Obama/Clinton.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:28 PM
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1. With all of Rubio's ethical problems, that seems like kind of a risk.
nt

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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:58 PM
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17. repubs don't care about ethics . . . or the lack thereof. eom
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:50 PM
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23. Or brains, or knowledge, or integrity
You just need an (R) by your name and to keep spewing hate and fear.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:51 PM
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25. Or people.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:30 PM
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2. President Obama already asked VP Joe Biden to run again with him and Biden said yes. n/t
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:32 PM
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4. What? I can't hear yooooouuuu...
...and apparently neither can some of the punditry.






:rofl:
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 10:21 PM
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32. +1
Bravo, Bravo...Bravo.

:rofl:
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:35 PM
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5. that can change
Until the convention ratifies Obama could change his mind. Is that likely, frankly no. Possible, yes.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:40 PM
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7. Well sure, he could ask Alan Grayson or Russ Feingold or anyone else, too.
But the bottom line is this: Why would Obama jettison a VP whom he has already asked to run?

If there were a whiff of scandal, the MSM would parrot it nonstop. No problems there.



Reich sounds like one of the die-hard Hillary hopefuls clinging to the VP hope since 2008.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:44 PM
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9. If he thought it would help in the polls he might
again, not likely but possible.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:18 PM
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21. I am wondering the same. I love Reich but this is a bit over the top at this point
and with what we know.

Actually, Biden has really helped Obama. I can't see where he is a problem, not an asset, to the campaign.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 10:26 PM
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33. Correct
He can't take Bo for a walk on the lawn, or Michelle out on a date, or his daughters to a bookstore without being hounded from afar by a million keyboard punching rage-aholics on both sides of the "political debate" - and I use that term very loosely - screaming "propaganda! propaganda! propaganda."

What would dumping a sitting VP produce?

We really need to do more than tea leaves as a society and accept things as they are sometimes.

:shrug:
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:49 PM
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12. And Clinton said that she had spent almost all of her adult life in politics, and
it was time that she did something else.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:32 PM
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3. Could be. Rubio is the love-child of Jeb Bush and the NeoCons.. However....
I still think General David Patreaus will sneak in at the last minute as the War Party GOP candidate.

The Neocons and Fascists will swoon.. and we will oficially be in the footprint of Nazi Germany- 1933.

History does repeat itself...
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:37 PM
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6. Obama will not be successfully attacked on foreign/military policy.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:51 PM
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24. Patreaus?
Edited on Sun Nov-27-11 08:51 PM by Proud Liberal Dem
You mean, President Obama's current CIA chief? :shrug:
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ZenaD Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:42 PM
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8. I'm not gonna lie. I like Biden fine but I'd LOVE Hillary as VP. Here's why:
I'm no fan of her hawkishness and centrism but she's a fierce fighter for choice. As VP she could really work the bully pulpit when GOOPers in Congress pull their anti-woman crap.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:47 PM
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11. She would be strong on economic matters and
certainly she would draw the media's attention away from the GOP.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:55 PM
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16. The only problem with Hillary.. she is a war-monger. She works for the MIC...
No doubt Hillary could wield some power.. but she is not "for the people".

If you follow the news.. wherever Hillary goes.. war breaks out.. just a coincidence I'm sure.
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ZenaD Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:01 PM
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18. All the more reason to get her out of the SOS position.
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zazen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:45 PM
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10. I think he'll ask Sen Kay Hagan (centrist D of NC)
I'm not saying I agree with that, but she doesn't make waves and she'd help him carry North Carolina.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:50 PM
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13. I have heard rumors for some time that Biden and Clinton were going to swap jobs.
Biden wants a crack at direct-action diplomacy. He's very gregarious and he has a good grasp of world politics.

I wasn't sure if they were going to make the flip before or after the election, though. Doing it now is a sure way to energize the D base.


What happens if Romney implodes enroute, though?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:51 PM
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14. Reich has shown himself to be an astute economist
and a lousy political prognosticator and strategist.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:51 PM
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26. I remember he said John Kerry's running mate would be Vilsack
This was in person at a book signing. He was so sure about it but he was wrong.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:53 PM
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15. Bullshit - Clinton is ineligible to be VP - oh, wait, he means Hillary
In that case - :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :puke:
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aletier_v Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:04 PM
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19. I disliked Reich during Clinton's admin but
Now he's one of the few with a clue.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:14 PM
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20. My prediction
Obama/Biden vs. the two most unelectable fuckers the Koch Brothers can come up with.

Obama is actually a perfect president for the Republican Party--well, any Democrat would be but Obama's what they've got. As long as there's a Democrat in the White House, they can keep on stonewalling and obstructing and blaming Obama for the disaster they created. (You know how the schoolyard bully will punch some kid's lights out then, when the teacher comes to investigate, point at the kid he hates worst and blame it on him? That's Republican SOP.) If they actually take the White House, THEY have to try to fix the disaster they created, and with the limitations Norquist has placed on them they can't fix it. (Right now, the thing that is going to fix America is a return to pre-1980 tax brackets and heavy, heavy infrastructure spending.)
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:48 PM
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22. Rubio, to get the Latino vote?
Latinos aren't stupid, thank goodness. They know a turncoat when they see one.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:53 PM
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27. I wouldn't be surprised - I've always thought Rubio would be the VP pick. nt
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markpkessinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 09:12 PM
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28. Um . . . did anybody bother to ask HIllary if she would be interested? n/t
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 09:25 PM
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29. What fun would that be? She'd say "No thanks" and ruin the fun.
At this point, anyone advancing this notion in the MSM is a pot-stirrer who doesn't much care about sowing discord in the Dem party.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 09:28 PM
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30. They already have and she said no way
Hillary Clinton shot down speculation she could join the Obama 2012 ticket as vice president in 2012 in an exclusive interview with TODAY. Switching positions with Joe Biden, per rumors swirling around Washington, is not "in the realm of possibility,’’ the secretary of state told Savannah Guthrie.

“I do not think it's even in the realm of possibility, and in large measure because I think Vice President Biden has done an amazingly good job,’’ Clinton told Guthrie in an interview that aired partially on Thursday. “He has taken on the burden of, you know, selling the economic plan, of traveling the country, of answering people's questions.’’

The possibility of an Obama/Clinton ticket in 2012 has not even been raised to her, she said.

“It's maybe a subject for speculation on Google, but it's not a serious issue in the administration,’’ Clinton said.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44887385/ns/today-today_people/t/hillary-clinton-vp-run-not-realm-possibility/#.TtLxkrKIm0s
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 10:16 PM
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31. I'd love to see Clinton on the Ticket.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 10:42 PM
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34. Un-reccing for "tweetering" nonsense.
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