Oh, it is time to debunk *THIS* little FB Gem....

[LaydeeBug]

(start quote)
I DO NOT CARE IF THIS DOES OFFEND SOMEONE…THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE!!! I AM SICK AND TIRED OF EVERY YEAR WHEN CHRISTMAS COMES AROUND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO TAKE CHRIST OUT OF CHRISTMAS BECAUSE IT MIGHT OFFEND SOMEONE. WELL, HOW ABOUT ALL OF THE CHRISTIANS?!? WHAT ABOUT OFFENDING US BECAUSE YOU ARE TAKING OUR CHRIST OUT OF CHRISTMAS?!? CHRIST IS CHRISTMAS!!! IF YOU AREN'T CELEBRATING CHRIST, THEN WHY ARE YOU CELEBRATING?!? CHRISTMAS IS ABOUT THE BIRTH OF OUR SAVIOR!!! CHRISTMAS IS ONE OF A FEW HOLIDAYS LEFT THAT CELEBRATE "MY" CHRIST!!! LEAVE "MY" CHRISTMAS ALONE!!! TELL EVERYONE MERRY CHRISTMAS, NOT HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!! RE-POST IF YOU’RE NOT ASHAMED!!!
(end quote)

maybe...
I DO NOT CARE IF THIS DOES OFFEND SOMEONE…THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE!!! THE TERM HOLIDAY IS SHORT FOR HOLY DAY. GOT THAT? HOLY DAY. I AM SICK AND TIRED OF EVERY YEAR WHEN CHRISTMAS COMES AROUND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MAKE CHRIST AND THE TERM 'MERRY CHRISTMAS" SOME SORT OF INSIDIOUS OATH TO PROVE THEIR HOLIDAY SEASON IS "JESUS" ENOUGH. THEY TRY TO SHOVE IT DOWN OUR THROATS DECRYING THAT THEY DON'T *CARE* IF ANYONE IS OFFENDED, WHEN THE ONE THEY ARE OFFENDING IS THE ONE THEY SUPPOSEDLY HONOR. JESUS WOULD NOT WANT THIS DIVISIVENESS AND ANYONE WHO READ THE BIBLE OR STUDIED HIS WAY *KNOWS* IT. IF YOU AREN'T WALKING IN HIS PATH, WHICH IS ABOUT *INCLUSION*, NOT EXCLUSION, THEN ALL THE "MERRY CHRISTMASES" ON EARTH CAN'T SAVE YOUR SOUL WHEN IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT GOOD WILL TOWARD MEN (HERE'S A HINT: NOT JUST *CHRISTIAN* MEN, BUT *ALL* MEN). SO HAPPY HOLIDAYS, WHATEVER YOUR PARTICULAR HOLY DAY MAY BE!! PEACE ON EARTH!! GOODWILL TOWARD MEN!!! AND IT IS *****JUST AS AMERICAN***** TO SAY HAPPY HOLIDAYS AS IT IS TO SAY "MERRY CHRISTMAS". IN FACT MORESO. IT *INCLUDES* EVERYBODY. THANKS, AND MAY GOD BLESS US. EACH AND EVERY ONE.


fuckers.

[Fire Walk With Me]

1. I'm offended by the offense of the offensive offending. I'm offended by the word offended.

When I think of you, I offend myself.

;););)

[LaydeeBug]

3. Happy Holidays! nt

[Fire Walk With Me]

8. You too ;)

[Warpy]

2. Reply with one sentence

"Why have you decided to declare war on the Jews?"

[trumad]

4. I'm offended by the caps.

[nobodyspecial]

5. I'm offended by ALL CAPS

[LaydeeBug]

17. LOL! I was leaving the retort in all caps just to be a smarty pants. nt

[rbnyc]

49. +1,000!

You beat me to it.

[sufrommich]

6. Oh my God, I love your answer. I may have to copy/paste. nt

[dipsydoodle]

7. Its an histroic thing which at least some of grew up with

Saying "Merry Xmas".

I still use that expression and anyone who don't like it can fuck 'em selves.

[jberryhill]

15. You do know that X is the Greek letter "Chi" for "Christ" yes?

[dipsydoodle]

18. Oddly enough

I didn't know the background to that X and I'd never searched - obviously only applies to the written word as it would be a bit lame trying to say it.

Ta for that.

:hi:

[jberryhill]

23. Its the same X as in this thing:

Ιησους Χριστóς Θεοῦ Υἱός Σωτήρ

Idiot Christians unfamiliar with their own history find 'Xmas' offensive.

[dipsydoodle]

27. Something fishy about that

:rofl:

Spelling Christmas Xmas I'd always assumed to be no more than an abbreviation.

In truth if I know the friends I'm talking to are something else I'm more likely to say Happy Whatever at which point they usually laugh and say Happy Christmas back to me.

On the subject of the OP there's a lot to be said for just ignoring such subjects or using the good old delete button.

[WinkyDink]

33. Guess what? "Negro" means "Black." Now, let's hear the defense of the former.

[jberryhill]

39. Did you buy the French Roast again?

Look, if you are going to drink that much coffee, you might try a lighter roast or a Kona blend.

[nadinbrzezinski]

47. I got a story on that

Avoid reading bills of sale ( for historical research) in public transportation. Word to the wise on that one.

[WinkyDink]

32. You DO know that is not the intent of modern-day users, yes?

At least, not on DU.

[jberryhill]

38. You do know that capitalizing "DO" that way is poor style, n'est–ce pas?

[Motown_Johnny]

9. Why not something like

I DO NOT CARE IF THIS DOES OFFEND SOMEONE...THESE ARE THE ACTUAL FACTS AND NOT JUST SOME UNFOUNDED BELIEF. "CHRISTMAS" IS ON DECEMBER 25th ONLY BECAUSE OF THE PAGAN RITUAL CALLED SATURNALIA! IF YOU AREN'T CELEBRATING SATURNALIA THEY WHY ARE YOU CELEBRATING AT ALL?





I could go on but I think you get the idea.




http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/Christmas_TheRealStory.htm

^snip^

A. Roman pagans first introduced the holiday of Saturnalia, a week long period of lawlessness celebrated between December 17-25. During this period, Roman courts were closed, and Roman law dictated that no one could be punished for damaging property or injuring people during the weeklong celebration. The festival began when Roman authorities chose “an enemy of the Roman people” to represent the “Lord of Misrule.” Each Roman community selected a victim whom they forced to indulge in food and other physical pleasures throughout the week. At the festival’s conclusion, December 25th, Roman authorities believed they were destroying the forces of darkness by brutally murdering this innocent man or woman.

B. The ancient Greek writer poet and historian Lucian (in his dialogue entitled Saturnalia) describes the festival’s observance in his time. In addition to human sacrifice, he mentions these customs: widespread intoxication; going from house to house while singing naked; rape and other sexual license; and consuming human-shaped biscuits (still produced in some English and most German bakeries during the Christmas season).

C. In the 4th century CE, Christianity imported the Saturnalia festival hoping to take the pagan masses in with it. Christian leaders succeeded in converting to Christianity large numbers of pagans by promising them that they could continue to celebrate the Saturnalia as Christians.<2>

D. The problem was that there was nothing intrinsically Christian about Saturnalia. To remedy this, these Christian leaders named Saturnalia’s concluding day, December 25th, to be Jesus’ birthday

[LaydeeBug]

Oh, i love this!!! nt

[freshwest]

43. I've always known this and I'm sure most X-tians know it. This is a RW meme to stir up division.

When I was kid, I knew about Saturnalia and as far as Easter was concerned, I knew the Easter bunny was about the goddess Ishtar. But I still got warm and fuzzy about the Baby Jesus being born in a stable with animals and stuff. Mother and Child, a universal meme.

When I was growing up this was never political or discussed on television or radio. We knew not everyone celebrated Christmas. Muslims were treated with a lot more respect then and didn't fear for their lives like they do now. Because it was private, not public business and not a reason to scream and holler and hate someone.

And I even liked the frigging bunny and the egg thing, just like the white rabbit in Alice In Wonderland and Harvey the Pookah. I mean it wasn't like the chick coming out the egg was really a fair representation of the Resurrection. It was kid's play like Valentine's Day, any excuse to have a party and a holiday. Mayday and dancing around the Maypole. Thanksgiving. What the heck.

The RW has tried to say that the Jamestown failed because they were socialists. Google 'jamestown socialist failure' to see how they've rewritten history. And this is more of their shist.

The 'Jesus is the reason for the season,' was initially a cry against commercialism (shades of OWS!) and forgetting Jesus was the guy who respected the poor, disenfranchised, foreigners and women more than any leader of the desert religions. More than his own 'people,' so to speak.

The person in the OP is just a Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, Dittohead throwing up a faux sense of victim hood in advance. The fact is the woman would kill the people in OWS just like the 'religious right' of Jesus' day killed him. They are at the level of a high school football team, sis-boom-bah-yah.

"Mostly sayin' Hooray for Our Side..." -- Buffalo Springfield

[LiberalFighter]

55. Singing naked house to house? In December?

Rape and other sexual license? Why haven't the Christians continued that tradition? Out in the open that is. We know that they do that individually. They just don't want to admit it.

[Brickbat]

10. Axial tilt is the reason for the season.

[baldguy]

26. +1

:rofl:

[jberryhill]

11. You never hear the Protestants saying they want to put the "Mass" back in Christmas

[taught_me_patience]

12. Christ was born on the same day every year but died on a different day

every year. Something doesn't jive very well.

[Sal Minella]

28. I'm always amazed at how few people ever mention this.

Since Easter is the First Sunday after the First Full Moon after the Vernal Equinox, the holiest of Christian holidays hangs from the Pagan Moon!

I find this just delicious, but it's one of those things everybody just ignores, like John Boehner's constant sobbing and Mitt Romney's lack of any detectable personality.

[Taverner]

31. It's because Christmas = Saturnalia

The Romans didn't change much but the names when they went from Pagan to Christian..

[Sal Minella]

42. It's the NON-MENTIONING of Easter skidding all over the calendar

from one year to the next that amazes me, not the fact that Christmas is fixed

People just routinely say, "Easter is early this year" or, "Easter is late this year" and it never seems to occur to anybody to ask WHY.

[tblue]

13. WHY IS HE/SHE SHOUTING?!

I hate it when people write a whole paragraph in CAPS. WTH is wrong with that person?

There's no Christ in Christmas? Really? REALLY? When did Christ become the underdog? Why do they think He's so fragile?

I can agree that Christmas has drifted so far away from Christ, it's hard to tell it's anything like a holy day. But the minute Halloween was over, retailers hit shoppers' every sensory organ with CHRISTMAS CHRISTMAS CHRISTMAS!!!!! for two entire months. That's not enough?

[Quartermass]

14. An orgy of offense! I love it! An offensive orgy! ORGIES ON THE OFFENSE!

[lamp_shade]

16. I replied with this snopes link and left poster with massive egg on her face. >>>

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.snopes.com%2Fpolitics%2Fchristmas%2Fornaments.asp&h=EAQG-f6GBAQGYw-ptfCG5t58JVMvCSVCEPXkVKm-ZQQSqyQ

[lamp_shade]

19. I replied with this snopes link and left poster with massive egg on her face. > >

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.snopes.com%2Fpolitics%2Fchristmas%2Fornaments.asp&h=EAQG-f6GBAQGYw-ptfCG5t58JVMvCSVCEPXkVKm-ZQQSqyQ

[TlalocW]

20. Merry Christmas, You Douche

http://colddaypontooning.blogspot.com/2009/12/merry-christmas-you-douche.html

TlalocW

[gratuitous]

21. Why would someone want non-believers to invoke "their" Christ?

Besides, there are other people in the world besides those who celebrate Christmas. I don't necessarily want to conduct an interview with every person whose path I cross during the course of a day, and find out if they celebrate Christmas, Kwanzaa, Hanukah, the Solstice, the New Year, some combination of those observances, or none of them at all. Really and for true, I have other things I'd rather do with my time. So, in lieu of getting all Oprah with total strangers, I'll settle for a generic "Happy Holidays" or "Greetings of the season" and save "Merry Christmas" for people I know, and who I know celebrate Christmas (such as the people in my congregation).

If this person could go further out of his or her way to be offended over nothing, it would be a Christmas miracle.

[baldguy]

22. It's not OK when Athiests or Jews or Muslims do it....

...but it's OK when Walmart does it?

And the reason people say "Happy Holidays" is that between Halloween on Oct 31 and the Feast of the Epiphany on Jan 6 there's about 300 religious and secular holidays & observances from various traditions being celebrated - not just Christmas.

[jberryhill]

25. We should get to take them all off

[JackRiddler]

24. HELP! HOW DO I TURN OFF CAPSLOCK////

http://www.mohammadi.ca/?itemid=500

[Mnpaul]

29. A good Christian

wouldn't be offended by Happy Holidays. The only ones offended are the nuts who follow hypocrites on this channel:

[JuniperLea]

35. I'm guessing they won't like my Ozzy ornament either...

[Taverner]

30. Alls I gotta say is "Eo Saturnalia!"

[treestar]

34. WELL TOO BAD!

THIS IS THE USA WHERE PEOPLE CAN SAY WHAT THEY WANT AND BE OFFENDED BY WHAT THEY WANT!!!!!!

[JuniperLea]

36. They can have all the Christ in their Christmas that they want...

No one is taking it from them.

I am offended that they interjected Christ into a perfectly good Pagan holiday. I'm offended that they insist on shoving Christ down everyone else's throat.

[Iggo]

37. Season's Greetings!

[Brother Buzz]

40. Cheetos crumbs can be shaken out of the shift key

[Raine]

41. They're too stupid to ever realize that holidays means "holy days"

I really can't deal with that much stupidity. :-(

[NMMNG]

44. I'm tired of egotistical whackjobs

who think theirs is the only holiday between November and January. I'm sick of bullies who demand theirs is the only holiday anybody can celebrate or acknowledge during that time period. I detest people who pretend they're being persecuted because they can't force their holiday on the entire world. Such small people they are, screaming at minimum-wage store clerks and strangers on the street about how you must say MERRY CHRISTMAS1!1!, or else.

[BiggJawn]

45. HAPPY SATURNALIA! AND I DON'T CARE WHO'S OFFENDED1!1!

Whew! Shouting makes me hoarse...

[nadinbrzezinski]

46. Merry Yuletide!

When in the darkest day of winter we bring a log in from an evergreen. (The true origin of the winter Christmas Holiday).

There s a reason the pilgrims, yes THOSE pilgrims, banned it in Massachussets Bay as a non christian holiday.

I love to bring this up when I am faced with this idiocy.

For Te record...look at spring for the actual birth and to Rome and later the Church for this. I hope people enjoy this time of year though. Whatever you decide to celebrate, or not.

[ChoppinBroccoli]

48. Can We Get This Stickied?

Or at least permanently placed into some easy-to-access file containing rebuttals for all the cut-and-paste bullshit right-wingers like to pass off as wisdom? I am TOTALLY stealing your rebuttal if and when I see this Facebook status pop up (and I'm pretty sure I will).

[JohnnyRingo]

50. Holy Day? That's why the call it a holiday?

Why do the English take a holiday to the continent when they get a week off work? They can't be going on a religious pilgrimage everytime they get a vacation, and they invented the language.

I still remember when I was young, spending Columbus day at church. hahahaha

[Norrin Radd]

51. Everyone else has already pointed out its Pagan roots, but also,

it isn't for every Christian, considering it is a Catholic feast, hence the "mass" part of the word.

[JCMach1]

52. Here was my response to that--

I am gonna keep saying happy holidays, joyous solstice, happy Hanukkah, awesome Kwanza, have a rip snortin' Yule, AND yes Merry Christmas and XMas, and yes I am gonna think about baby Jesus, but I am also going to enjoy my pseudo-pagan tree, be thankful the sun rises on the shortest day of the year and thankful to the fat man in the red suit. So while I am enjoying these things, keep politics out of it! The right-wing has messed up enough in America. Don't let them spoil your holidays too!

[cliffordu]

53. Oh, for Christ's sake.....

:rofl:

[upi402]

54. BabyCheeses

You got me!

[LiberalFighter]

56. All those that are offended are idiots.

Especially, when they forget their 10 Commandments. The one about worshiping other images. They seem to forget that the cross they have in their church in front with or without Jesus violates their Commandment.

[LynneSin]

57. Yes I remember the parable where Jesus used his sleigh manned by 8 reindeer...

and delivered toys to all the kids around the world by sliding down their chimneys. Toys that he spent all day Black Friday stampeding the crowds at the local Bethlehem Wal-Mart.

:grr:

Christ left Christmas ages ago.