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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:31 AM
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Is there a meth lab in your neighborhood?
Edited on Sun Jan-23-11 11:33 AM by Renew Deal
Or are you living in one? The feds keep a list of buildings used as meth labs. http://www.justice.gov/dea/seizures/index.html

I think they keep the list to prevent horror stories where people are poisoned like this: http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/11/29/couple.buys.meth.house/index.html">Couple's first home is a meth house

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Priced at $190,000, the house was within their budget and the independent home inspection gave the all-clear.

The couple also received a certificate of approval from the borough inspector stating that a general inspection revealed "no imminent hazards" and the home was "in compliance" with borough codes.

The couple thought they had done everything right. But there was one thing missing from the to-do list for the first-time homebuyers: a test for methamphetamine.

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The couple complained of having headaches, sore throats and difficulty breathing after moving in -- all symptoms of possible methamphetamine exposure.

It was listed on the DEA's registry after items were found in the house in March 2004.
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http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/11/29/couple.buys.meth.house/index.html
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:59 AM
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1. Woefully inadequate list
I pulled down the list for Pennsylvania and it shows no meth labs at all in Fayette County, which is arguably the meth capital of the world.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:01 AM
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10. I think the list only has known former labs.
I don't think they've listed ones not discovered yet.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 09:10 AM
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2. All the meth labs in my county are in pricey suburbs
The places where people live to get away from the "wrong element."

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:02 AM
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11. LA County is in the "suburbs?"
What about the Bronx?
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:58 AM
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31. Where ARE the "suburbs of LA"?

LA is pretty much one giant suburb, except for a couple of blocks, no?
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 02:36 PM
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46. San Diego, I think.
:D
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 04:25 AM
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52. Indeed it is,
and we fucking love it that way,
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 09:11 AM
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3. One more thing to worry about when investing in a home.
Edited on Sun Jan-23-11 09:47 AM by no_hypocrisy
The last "big thing" was radon.

Wonder if the Purchasers can sue the Sellers for nondisclosure and for inherent damages to the property.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:02 AM
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12. In this case no
But different states and counties might be different.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 09:26 AM
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4. Most of the meth labs In Ellis and Henderson counties are rural or trailor park based
...but,there are a lot of them.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 09:54 AM
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5. There are only six listed in all of Massachusetts.
But boy, there sure are a LOT of them in Wasilla, Alaska!

How does the tiny town of Wasilla, Alaska have more meth labs than the entire state of Massachusetts?


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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:04 AM
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14. You're right!
Edited on Sun Jan-23-11 11:05 AM by Renew Deal
Wasilla has 19. More than any other locality in Alaska. They are the meth capital of Alaska. :wtf:
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 03:16 AM
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48. The Palins live there
I don't know about y'all, but if I lived within 20 miles of her I'd have to be amped up on SOMETHING!
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 12:33 PM
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55. Hmmm.....somebody prominent used to be Mayor of that town
I just can't remember who? :shrug: :eyes:
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 09:56 AM
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6. No I live downwind from 100's of industrial plants
producing who knows what. Yea meth labs are the issue.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:05 AM
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15. Do you consider your location dangerous?
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:10 AM
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18. More dangerous than living in a meth lab house
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:28 AM
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21. So you're living with medical problems worse than "headaches, sore throats & difficulty breathing?"
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:42 AM
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24. Isn't those enough? And don't you think industrial pollution
Edited on Sun Jan-23-11 11:43 AM by RegieRocker
is a bigger problem?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:25 PM
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42. Yes, it's a bigger problem.
But I'm not sure why we need to compare. Also, if your personal situation is so dangerous, shouldn't you move?
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:06 AM
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7. I know we have a few in our small town....
My best friend's daughter got in with the wrong crowd and he was searching for her. When he found her and brought her home, he suspected the house where she was staying was a meth lab, so he called a friend that was a cop. They used that info to arrest and break-up a big meth ring. I would call the cops on anyone I suspected of making that shit. It's poison.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:08 AM
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8. OMG Summit county in Ohio has 3 pages of their own, most of them in Akron!
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:27 AM
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9. mostare in Bachman's district
in Minnesota. Explains alot.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:04 AM
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13. According to your registry there was one down the road
from me as recently as August of last year.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:07 AM
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16. Did you notice a lot of cops there at any point?
:shrug:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:10 AM
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17. No. We have sheriffs and they never come around unless
there is a problem, but I didn't notice anything at all back then.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:16 AM
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19. Only 3 listed in CT, and none near me. Where I used to live in AZ though - holy shit.
There were 3 pages of meth labs listed in Arizona, and several in Tempe that I could've walked to from where I lived.

This is consistent with my personal experience. I haven't ever known anyone in Connecticut who has ever used meth before, yet in Arizona, I had a boss at work who was a meth head.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:49 AM
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26. um.14 pages in Texas.. We RULE!
http://www.justice.gov/dea/seizures/tx.pdf

along with poverty and uninsured citizens....
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:54 AM
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28. Notice how the red states tend to have the most.
Hmm....
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:17 PM
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39. Did you notice that Wasilla is the meth capital of Alaska?
http://www.justice.gov/dea/seizures/ak.pdf

I'm not sure if Sarah was that good of a mayor.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:38 PM
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44. 19 meth labs in such a small place. I wonder if any other place has more meth labs per capita.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:08 PM
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34. Weird, there was only ONE
in Travis county. That is not right, couldn't be.
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timo Donating Member (890 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:11 PM
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35. should be more
I know there are a bunch that have been busted in the 956 and are not listed!!
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:14 PM
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36. here,too...these are the ones the DEA has busted,if I'm not mistaken
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timo Donating Member (890 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 02:35 PM
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45. still a fraction
of what the dea has busted.....either that or the lies of how many labs really exist is HUGE...meh with our government the way it is could go either way!!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:16 PM
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38. 10 Pages for Ohio - 4 of them are Summit County (Akron)
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RayOfHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 03:11 PM
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47. Gotcha beat. Missouri has 52 pages. Then again, we're the #1 meth producing state n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:28 AM
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20. Couple problems
Edited on Sun Jan-23-11 11:41 AM by proud2BlibKansan
I looked up my friend's address. She sold her property to a couple busted for meth about 5 or 6 years ago. There was a big article on the front page of her small town paper. That address is not listed.

A couple of the addresses listed in my city are businesses and at least one is an abandoned building that has been abandoned for at least 15 years. I worked a half a block away and drove by it every day for years. There may have been a couple of homeless people squatting in the building but there was never a meth lab there.

So I don't trust this list.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:29 AM
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22. How do you know there's wasn't one there?
:shrug:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:41 AM
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23. The bust alone would have meant cops, increased traffic, etc
I work in a school. Another school in our area had a meth lab a block away and they were notified by the cops and the DEA came and took samples on the school grounds and in the building.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:43 AM
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25. There's a black lab next door.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:53 AM
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27. i am pretty sure there are
were it legal the labs would all be in industrial zones...
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Reader Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:56 AM
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29. The one right around the corner from me was not listed.
But that was busted just a year or two ago, and this list seems to be older than that. I wonder when they will come out with an updated list?
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:57 AM
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30. NOT A SINGLE ONE IN ALL OF COOK COUNTY
with over 5 million residents and all of the city of chicago there is not a single former meth lab in all of cook county, officially.... but i knew of at least one in the suburbs of chicago in cook county... hell there were only 7 or 8 in the whole chicago metro area which has over 9 million residents.... i guess it is a countryside thing, lots of rural couties had a shitload of labs.... i guess the fact that there is good cocaine in chicago has something to do with it.... we grow a lot of weed in and around chicago though
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:22 PM
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40. Meth is still mostly a regional issue.
But it has spread all over. I am in NY and many counties don't have any, including only 7 in NYC and LI combined. 1 in Brooklyn. 1 in Queens. 2 in Manhattan. 3 in Suffolk. None in Nassau.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 03:35 AM
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50. nah, they're not all on that registry. there was a lab busted 3 blocks from me last year, not there
both of the biggest cities in my state had labs.

not a "rural" thing exclusively.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:00 PM
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32. HELL NO
I live in Newburgh, NY - East cost home of the rock.. Crack (and H.) rule here - gangs profit from keepin meth out..
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:02 PM
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33. Here is how you can Identify a Meth Lab
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:14 PM
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37. broo rooo
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:23 PM
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41. lol
:rofl:
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 12:34 PM
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56. Love it!
The first one looks like our 9 yr. old Emma.
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bluedigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:29 PM
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43. Only two in my little town in Colorado.
Six pages, though,for the whole state, and the runaway winner is Colorado Springs. God, guns, and meth. There's a potent brew.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 03:20 AM
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49. This was an episode of "Breaking Bad", I think
Great show.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 12:30 PM
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54. Better call Saul!
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 04:17 AM
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51. Groan... when I worked on personal bankruptcies...
Edited on Mon Jan-24-11 04:23 AM by Sen. Walter Sobchak
House flippers who bought themselves a nice little 909 meth lab were always steady source of business. They over-extended themselves to buy the shitholes and then in addition to all the renovations were facing a $15,000 to $25,000 bill to clean up the meth lab.

And DAMN! "The Happiest Place on Earth" sure has a lot of meth labs in the vicinity.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 12:28 PM
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53. House flipping is such a ridiculous business
And many of them have gone under because it's so unpredictable.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 12:36 PM
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57. None in DC?
I thought they took down one in Northeast last year.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 12:36 PM
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58. A ton in Phoenix.
Sad.
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