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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 05:27 PM
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This Friday's Afternoon Challenge Question: "what pierces me."
Great art works have “moments” within them that take can our breath away with their poignancy, their passion, their urgency or their beauty.

Here are six of such “moments” for you to identify...both work and artist.

(if ya’ll would like to post your favorite art “moment” please do!)
1.


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3.

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5.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 05:33 PM
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1. oh boy!! think I know the first one
Rembrandt's Return of the Prodigal Son?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 05:35 PM
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2. Yep, thought it would be the first to be guessed...but I love it so...
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 05:40 PM
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4. me too- I think I might know who did #5 as well, but don't know
the title. (JSS)?

(I love your challenges, but don't often know the answers)


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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 06:09 PM
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11. You are doing very well...
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:04 PM
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18. Your clue helped me find it
What interesting gazes in this painting.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 05:39 PM
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3. I have sen the first one.
Edited on Fri Dec-17-10 05:42 PM by MuseRider
Not saying anything. Again, not knowledgeable enough. BUT I do know the first one. :-) YAY me!

Edit and I can't spell! I see I was correct. I never really appreciated that painter until I ran smack dab into his originals hung properly. Now I simply can't understand how anyone could use light like he did.

Edit again to say, "that painter" becomes Rembrandt
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 05:44 PM
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5. Incredible, isn't it? This is particularly poignant I think...
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 05:50 PM
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8. I agree.
I am thinking about that last one. I KNOW I know the painter but I just can't pull the name up, Also the girls face. I have no idea but it makes me think of Renoir.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 06:12 PM
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12. IT is a painting that poses a quandary to me...she is probably the center of my question...
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 06:49 PM
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16. I was thinking the same on #5
Something about the forthright gaze.
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catrose Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:40 PM
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20. Botticelli, yes?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:54 PM
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21. No, there are no Botticelli here...which one are your referring to? nt
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 05:45 PM
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6. #4 Is titled: Rape of Proserpina
By Bernini
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 06:07 PM
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10. Yes, beautiful isn't it? That detail is exquisite...just breathtaking...
I saw it in the Borghese in Rome, a great museum. It was a wonderful experience...
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 05:48 PM
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7. why does the friday question almost always revolve around paintings?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 06:05 PM
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9. Perhaps my interest in art explains it...I have had SOME non art related but
I am open to suggestions!
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 06:52 PM
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17. suggestion: something besides paintings n/t
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:56 PM
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22. Thank you for your suggestions! I will give this serious thought.
Tell me what subject you would like to see explored on my Friday AFternoon Challenge Questions! I can adapt....
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:27 PM
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25. Good. Any ideas? I have done places which are pretty good to delve into. such
as Places people wrote at or about...that was a fun challenge...I used photos of places where authors had created or at least started thinking about creating a work about. It was a great thread...give me your ideas...I'd love to do them...
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 12:13 PM
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38. I like the challenges with art.
This is a nice way to learn some new things and see some nice art. The John Singer Sargent painting, for example, is beautiful.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 01:50 PM
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40. It IS beautiful but also chilling to me...the older girl's stare and the
isolation of the little girl on the carpet, the servants in the shadows...
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 06:20 PM
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13. #6 Madonna and Child with two angels - Filippo Lippi
I love the expression on the face.
Ah, I so would enjoy going to the Uffizi again.
It's been soooooooo long ago now.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 06:22 PM
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14. How wonderful that you knew it and you love it so!
How do you know this work?

I can't get over that little angel, just smiling out at us at how he helped the child up to his mother's lap! I'm not religious but this is a winner!

Saw it in the Uffizi just last September...an art trip of my lifetime!
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 06:37 PM
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15. A vacation long ago
when I lived in Germany for a few years.
Went to Vicenza, Venice, Florence, Genoa (sort of), Diano Marina, Nice and back up through Switzerland.

Only 3 days in Florence, but amazing there.

Did have to jog the memory. At first, I was thinking Botticelli because of the attitude, but got to Lippi fairly quickly.

Thanks for the memory.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:34 PM
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19. How lovely! Great story...Lippi's maddone are legend...
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:14 PM
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23. #s 2 and 3 have not been guessed. Here are some hints....
2 is a martyred saint by a very FAMOUS artist...

3 is an early Renaissance artist whose fresco here is in Florence...
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:23 PM
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24. Has #5 been guessed?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:28 PM
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26. Well, what is your guess?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:34 PM
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27. I am still looking for the title
Edited on Fri Dec-17-10 08:42 PM by blogslut
But that's a John Singer Sargent painting or I'll eat my hat.

EDIT ADD: The Daughters of Edward Darley Boit
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:46 PM
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28. Wow, you are GOOD!
Her gaze is so hypnotizing...she is inscrutable but also a liitle strange...
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:54 PM
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30. I've done a lot of looking at Sargent's paintings
...and have become fairly familiar with his style. When I first saw this example today, I thought it look like something he had done but I was too lazy to research it, especially after I had gotten that Bernini one in one click by typing "rape sculpture" into teh Google image finding machine.

Bernini, I don't know. Sargent, I'm more familiar with. :hi:
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:58 PM
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31. Bernini is so dramatic and so interesting...no wonder you were into it.
AND he's all over Rome!

Sargent is coming back, esp. here in NE because of the new wing of the Museum of Fine ARts in Boston (a great museum, IMO)...
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 11:15 PM
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33. Wow
when viewing the entire painting it looks entirely different. Thanks I did not know this painter or his works, at least not well enough to bring him to mind.
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 03:55 PM
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49. Apollo and Daphne?
Edited on Sat Dec-18-10 03:55 PM by maryf
here's my favorite Bernini:



and her heart is literally being pierced...
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:53 PM
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29. OK, folks, we are down to # 2 and #3.
#2 is a really famous artist that so many of you know and LOVE. He has surpassed Michelangelo as the most famous painter in Italy. You know him and love him. He lived a famously disolute life and his death was a mystery....

#3 is a really famous artist in the EARLY renaissance. He died young so he only contributed a few works but what he did was incredible! He is very famous for his portrayal of Adam and Eve's expulsion from the garden...
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horseshoecrab Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 09:34 PM
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32. # 3 Masaccio
#3 is a detail from Masaccio's "Baptism of the Neophytes," one of the Brancacci Chapel frescos.

I hadn't been familiar with Masaccio until now, so thank you for those clues CTyankee.

Masaccio died young at age 26, rumored to have been poisoned by another artist.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 03:37 AM
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35. Are you a big fan of Masaccio's?
So few people know his works...
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horseshoecrab Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 03:31 PM
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44. I am now...
although I was totally unaware of Masaccio before.

Now, in researching for this challenge I find that he is really the "father" of scientific perspective and realism, having been heavily influenced by both sculpture and architecture. Everyone thereafter is in some way influenced by him.

Thanks for the introduction to Masacchio. :-) Thanks too for these challenges each week. I learn so much and it's wonderful to see that others do too!



horseshoecrab
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 03:40 PM
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45. Get thee to Florence to see this!
Google his "Holy Trinity" which is a textbook example of the use of linear perspective...it is in the church of the Santa Maria Novella, which I passed every day walking from my hotel...

We walked over to the Brancacci Chapel from the convent of St. Marco where we viewed the Annunciation by Fra Angelico and his frescoes in all of the monks cells...it is said he painted the crucifixion scenes with tears streaming down his face. We passed a della Robbia on the facade of the Spedale degli Innocenti...

Florence is like this...you wander around and can't help bumping into some of the most magnificent art masterpieces of western culture...it is profound...and relentless!
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horseshoecrab Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 09:32 PM
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50. I would love to!
My g-grandmother honeymooned in Florence in 1903! It would have been wonderful to have learned more about her time in Florence, but that was not to be.

Someday I'd love to see Florence. Your experience sounds simply fantastic! :-)


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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 11:09 PM
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51. Great about your great grandmother. I assume you've read "Room with a View"
and seen the movie...talk about romantic!
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 12:29 AM
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34. #2 "Burial of St Lucy" - Caravaggio
And whoa - even with the hints I had to search through the back door for that one.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 03:38 AM
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36. How did you search for it?
This, btw, is my favorite Caravaggio...
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 01:20 PM
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39. It took some time and is a bit morbid
Dissolute led me to Caravaggio fairly quickly because of these news articles:http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2012127754_apeuitalycaravaggio.html

But combining his name with saint, martyr, etc did not bring up the painting.

So, I went back to the image itself and a combo of Catholic upbringing (long lapsed) and having seen so many paintings and sculptures of martyrs in Europe led me to look for a clue to her martyrdom. (Hmm, I guess in this way I was viewing the painting as people did in the past since they would identify by the image itself, the martyr in it.) That was tough since it was so subtle in the painting - just the smallest nick to her neck. That was not as distinctive as others, such as Catherine with the wheel. And I even found Saint Lucy/Lucia at one point, but the images were more strongly connected to her eyes rather than her throat, so I kept looking at other saints- see below. But I noticed her throat being cut was mentioned, combined her name with Caravaggio and found the painting.


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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 01:55 PM
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41. Wow,you did your research!
I had tried to see this painting when I was in Siricusa, Sicily in 2005,but the museum was closed (it was December) and they had sent to work to Florence for restoration. As you can see from the full picture there is significant damage in the background.

I had done an Independent Study on Caravaggio in grad school and part of my Master's Final Project was on this painting...
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 02:19 PM
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42. I'm sorry you weren't able to see it, especially
with your strong connection to it.

When I went to the Uffizi, Primavera was being restored and I had so hoped to see it there.

I guess that's an excuse for me to try to go to Florence again and you to go back to Sicily.

The search itself was fun. I so enjoy your threads and learn so much, even from the other paintings I encountered in searching for the Caravaggio.

I am intrigued by Cossa's depiction, with Saint Lucy holding her eyes like a flower and looking askance at them.

Realize you can't possibly synthesize your Master's here, but could you share some of your thoughts on Caravaggio's painting?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 03:21 PM
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43. Well, some famous critic once said Caravaggio was our first "cinematic" artist.
Eerie how he precedes film, isn't it?

Since that time I've studied more history of art and am still studying on my own, but I'm still impressed with Caravaggio. Peter Robb has a fabulous book on him: very insightful and funny as hell. It's worth the read.

Historically, Caravaggio went into oblivion not long after his death. His followers died out and with them, his dramatic style. He has come back like gangbusters, hasn't he?

I'm impressed still by the tenderness in the treatment of sorrow and suffering. St. Lucy is one prime example. Also, Death of the Virgin and the Crucifixion of St. Peter (and the one of St. Andrew). His humor is evident in Flight into Egypt -- a very funny take with Joseph holding up the "sheet music" so the angel can play his flute!

You probably know that he got into trouble with some of his commissions and they were summarily carted off after the patrons took one look at them! Such was the situation with the original St. Matthew and the Angel (destroyed in WWII bombing of Berlin -- we only have a black and white photo of it) and the Death of the Virgin (which Peter Paul Rubens saw and advised his patron to buy!). That original St. Matthew was a real "screw you"...You can see all three of the Matthews in a little church in Rome where they have been since he painted them...you throw some euro change in a box and the lights go on for 15 minutes...Death of the Virgin is in the Louvre.

I think Caravaggio is one of a kind, altho he had devoted followers. Here is a painting by one of them (Ribero):


Thanks for asking!
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 03:41 PM
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46. Thanks. This is fascinating.
I did not know any of the above.
I was an English major and never even took an art class in college. There was one I did want to take. Sadly, it wasn't offered while I attended.
All I've learned has come from going to museums and reading. I've seen some of his works, but knew nothing about him until now - thanks for that!
As you have probably noticed, I am curious and enjoy searching out new info. I'll definitely look into more about what you posted.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 03:47 PM
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47. The Teaching Company has some great lectures on DVD.
That's the folks who go around looking for the best college professors in their fields to lecture for them in a wide variety of subjects.

Also, on Youtube you can check out the series "The Power of Art" by Simon Schama. His first segment is on Caravaggio. There is also the book by the same name, which I read. I highly recommend the TV series. Schama is an excellent speaker.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 03:49 PM
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48. I'll definitely look into these
Thanks again!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 05:34 AM
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37. Recommend
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