This country could save a vast amount of cash if it would just...

[Hubert Flottz]

do away with the "Department Of Homeland Security"

We made it for over 200 years without it.

[aquart]

1. So true.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. But that would mean that the terrorists would win!

:scared:

:sarcasm:

[Hubert Flottz]

6. The fact that we created the Department of Homeland Security

means that the terrorists DID WIN.

They have disrupted the government...totally.

[postulater]

3. But who would remind us to be scared?

[quinnox]

7. We could put up 1984 style posters all over

like in malls, and public transport stations to remind people to spy on their neighbors because they might be potential terrorists, like they do in Great Britain.

[Angry Dragon]

9. They already do that at Wal-Mart

[quinnox]

12. Ah, not surprised

Wal-Mart will lead the way.

[Angry Dragon]

17. My understanding is that they did not do it on their own

The DHS worked with them on it.......

[Hubert Flottz]

10. Glenn Beck and Rushbo already do that.

[HughBeaumont]

4. Or end the damned occupations.

That'd be nice.

[FiveGoodMen]

5. We could also stop two useless, immoral wars while we're at it.

That would also save quite a bit.

(But yes, DHS is a piece of fascist crap and needs to go)

[Hubert Flottz]

8. Yes the taxpayers are even paying the government to spy on us.

They might have pictures of u and I taking nap or even a crap. And be passing them around.

Spying on your wife or little kids?

[Deep13]

11. It was only created to hide the fact that...

Dubya fell asleep at the switch.

[Uncle Joe]

13. I agree. n/t

[Hubert Flottz]

15. It costs us a lot to cover his tired ass.

Of Course the "Department" does provide a nice steady income for countless republican cronies, hacks and thugs in the process.

Bush created a HUGE (overbloated) government...

[patrice]

16. Bingo. Always look for whomever it is that TPB pass the buck to. Some scapegoats are well paid.nt

[patrice]

14. But who would gaurantee jobs for veterans, so that political support for Un-Ending War continues?

[Hubert Flottz]

18. I know several repub opratives in this area alone, who took...

advantage of the DHS government tit.

[patrice]

22. I have been out and about in our community, against war in general, but against this war in particul

ar, ever since 2002 and, if I may say so myself, I am (my age, my years as a public high school teacher, my enormous and quite diverse family have made me . . . ) a keen observer of people. You kind of get that way from when you and your friends/signs used to stand on busy street corners, where you have to decide if whoever is yelling/cursing at you at the moment is a threat or not. And my observations suggest that there are more than just a few middle-to-upper-middle-class civilians who are paying their mortgages with war profiteering.

[IndyPragmatist]

19. The national department should go...

However, state departments seem to be a pretty good idea. Considering they aren't as concerned with terrorism and surveillance, they do a pretty good job.

At least in Indiana, all Indiana DHS did was combine previously independent agencies and departments to save resources. It is a combination of emergency management, fire services, building codes, and general public safety.

Keep the state DHS, and get rid of USDHS.

[Hubert Flottz]

20. Here the repub bloodsuckers latched on to the DHS like a leech

on a fat boy's butt.

[Hubert Flottz]

21. I'm more afraid of being blown up or gassed in my sleep by BAYER

than by the Bush family friend Bin Laden.

[patrice]

24. I wonder how that fact plays in labor struggles such as the one that we are seeing rise in

Nebraska:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x367166

[Hubert Flottz]

25. The GOP probably blames the unions for 9/11

One of the first things the Nazis did was crush the unions.

The huns blamed unions and Jews. Reich Wing Ameica blames unions and Arabs for all our troubles and shortages.

Meanwhile Bush goes to the Super Bowl instead of Jail and the Banksters are STILL living high on the hog.

Still everything bad in America is everybody's fault but the GOP, to hear them tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it and tell it.

[patrice]

27. Agree! But in face of almost insurmountable problems, we need NEW solutions, so I

hope unions address the need for change with creative alternatives. I'm not sure how it relates, but I favor the concepts of employee-ownership and co-operatives, but that kind of stuff must go forward on investments made in change from ALL stakeholders. It should not be done solely on the backs of the workers/unions.

I guess I'm trying to say there's no going back, so ALL of us have to decide what we're willing to give for economic justice. Unfortunately, unions ARE at an extreme disadvantage in this situation, compounded, MOSTLY, I believe, not only out of things that are and always have been beyond union control, but also out of other things that they ARE responsible for. And the fact is that no matter how small a fraction of the problem you are, if you are in any way shape or form looking like a hypocrite, doing the very things that you fault the corporate (or any other) world for, the debate is over and you lose.

[Javaman]

23. Where else will the rich find jobs for their halfwit offspring? nt

[Hubert Flottz]

26. All the real stupid ones want Obama's job it looks like.