Libyan Revolution Tweets, Day 6, Part 5 (Richard III in a bad & dangerous way)

[Catherina]

Libyan Revolution Tweets, Day 6, Part 5 (Richard III in a bad & dangerous way)

"Let fall thy lance: despair, and die!" - Shakespeare, The Life and Death of Richard the Third, Act 5, Scene III, Bosworth Field

The world’s 100 largest arms dealers, excluding Chinese vendors, sold weapons for $401 billion in 2009, with US vendors remaining in first place

Today's threads: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4

Threads for previous days are in my journal

To make sure the Army doesn't swing the revolution to the people, with the silent complicity of world leaders more concerned about the stability of oil prices than people's lives, Qaddafi has brought in more than 35,000 North African mercenaries specifically from Chad, Nigeria, Guinea and Darfur. There's a Facebook video of a captured mercenary from Chad (Youtube here). Captured mercenaries confessed they were paid between $12,000 - $30,000 each. Today pamphlet ads were found in Nigeria offering them $2000/day for their savage work.

Is Qaddafi the only one paying these mercenaries? Or are EU governments, with their long history of hiring mercenaries, chipping in? I demand to know.

LibyanThinker The Libyan Thinker
Remains of Soldiers Burned to Death for Not Shooting Protesters in #Libya http://www.twitvid.com/YXKOT & http://tinyurl.com/4d6a57n

MAP of Protests across the Middle East

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Libya

F22 - - - Bahi Sidra 20 46 -
F23 - - - Defa Ras Lanuf 14, 24, 30 251 -
F24 - - - Gialo, Fahra Sidra 30, 32 550 -
F25 - - - ELephant field Melita 30 726 -
F26 - - - Jebel Marsa El Brega 24, 36 204 -
F27 - - - Majid, Nafora, Amal Marsa El Hariga 34 - -
F28 - - - Majid, Nafora, Amal Ras Lanuf 14, 20, 32, 30, 36 427 -
F29 - - - Rimal, Intisar Zuetina 30, 40 347 -
F30 - - - Sabah Dahra 10 - -
F31 - - - Wafa field Melita 20 46 -
F32 - - - Wafa Sidra 24 427 -
F30 - - - Bu Attifel Intisar 20, 34 360 -
F31 - - - Defa Marsa El Brega 30, 36 299 -
F3210 - - Khoms Melita 34 25 -
F33 - - - Marsa El Brega KhomsIntisar - 670 -
F34 - - - Raguba KM110 20 86 -
F35 - - - Sarir Gialo - - -
F36 - - - West Libya Gas Project Wafa field Melita

Please rec if you read these so I know if the effort here is worth it.

[pinboy3niner]

1. K&R

[Poboy]

2. kr

[villager]

3. Richard the II? Or III? After all, Richard II had his moment of "how can you say to me...

...I am thus king?" introspection.

I don't expect we're gonna get that out of Libya.

[Catherina]

4. Let fall thy lance: despair, and die! All is probably better choice. changing now n/t

[Catherina]

5. On schedule, heavy fire starting again in Tripoli (just like last time, right at end of speech)

lovegoscuba jb
@bencnn “@rstripolina: On schedule, heavy fire starting again in Tripoli #Libya #Feb17”
1 minute ago


What dangerous psychotic ppl

[CJvR]

9. Good timing.

Hold a speach to clear the streets somewhat, move troops into position and blast anyone who shows up after the speach is over.

[CJvR]

6. I imagine...

...if Hitler had had a TV crew in his bunker his last rants would have sounded simillar.
Particular Gaddafi's fury over the ungrateful population.

[Catherina]

12. +1 n/t

[steve2470]

7. k&r nt

[Iterate]

8. "I will "cleanse #Libya house by house"

@BBCNews: End of speech Col #Gaddafi: I will "cleanse #Libya house by house" if protesters do not surrender

That and the call for youth to purify the country, the armbands...I suppose that means tonight will be a night of murder squads.

[Catherina]

11. Speech was chilling. I'm looking for a full text. Coming soon. But you can't tell me

that all those world leaders who kept funneling money to him never noticed.

[Iterate]

20. All tyrants are alike, yet somehow shocking in their own unique way.

I've been digging around trying to learn more about the UN International Convention against the Recruitment, Use, Financing and Training of Mercenaries, but there isn't much out there on it. Will post it GD when I have anything worthwhile.

[Catherina]

26. "Anyone who undermines the state will be punished by death"

Thanks for doing that. I'd like to know what you find. They've had decades to come up w\ something but I doubt they have anything good considering how the top countries who own the UN use mercenaries for Black Ops dirty work, coincidentally lots of that in Africa.

[sabrina 1]

62. They were getting ready to give him nuclear power, Catherina.

I am NOT kidding. It is in the Wikileaks cables. I will post an OP on it later when I have time.

SHAME ON THIS GOVERNMENT! On Europe! I cannot believe how evil our own government is. WE NEED REFORM!

They slam Iran and discuss Qaddafi's demands for nuclear power and other weapons which he said he would get anyhow.

[Catherina]

10. Reports now that bodies were picked up from the streets of #Tripoli and cremated; clean ups going on

iyad_elbaghdadi Iyad El-Baghdadi
Reports now that bodies were picked up from the streets of #Tripoli and cremated; clean ups going on. #Feb17 #Libya
4 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

13. Reports that clean-ups on #Tripoli streets now and preparation for a "pro-Gaddafi million-man march

iyad_elbaghdadi Iyad El-Baghdadi
Reports that clean-ups on #Tripoli streets now and preparation for that "pro-Gaddafi million-man march" tomorrow #Feb17 #Libya
9 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

14. #Misurata: "Come out and meet us, #Gaddafi, and we'll show you what we really think of you."

iyad_elbaghdadi Iyad El-Baghdadi
Reaction from #Misurata: Come out and meet us, #Gaddafi, and we'll show you what we really think of you. #Feb17 #Libya
12 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

15. #Misurata: "We gave you 42 years, now we won't even give you 42 hours."

iyad_elbaghdadi Iyad El-Baghdadi
Reaction from #Misurata: "We gave you 42 years, now we won't even give you 42 hours." #Feb17 #Libya
15 minutes ago

[Catherina]

16. Reports from Darna, Al-Bayda and Benghazi, shoes thrown at screens showing speech.

iyad_elbaghdadi Iyad El-Baghdadi
#Gaddafi speech: Reports from Darna, Al-Bayda and Benghazi, shoes thrown at screens showing speech. #Feb17 #Libya
20 minutes ago


I'm gonna have to adopt this habit

[Catherina]

17. Gheryan: armed from local barracks & just destroyed a unit of Africanmercs!!

Sityaan Sofyan Amry
JustGotOffPhone with Gheryan, #Libya .Theyre armed from local barraks and they just destroyed a unit of Africanmercs!! #feb17
51 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[kenny blankenship]

38. use of foreign mercenaries is a dbl edge sword:

they have no compunction about killing and mistreating your citizens - a point that recommends their use to a dictator.

But their presence will evoke the resentment of the native-born military, which will therefore feel freer to join with the rebelling population to overthrow the dictator. Killing foreign mercenaries is a much clearer moral mission than carrying out orders to fire on your own people, who have no arms. The regular military can take the field confidently, armored by feelings of patriotism (no one but Libyans should be bearing arms on Libyan soil) and the assurance that the cause of the rebellion against the govt. (which they daily swear allegiance to in normal times) is just.

I'm sure Machiavelli had plenty to say about using foreign mercenaries in The Prince, and it probably went something like that, but I don't feel like looking it up right now.

[Catherina]

44. I don't either, but if you ever do, please PM me or post it here n/t

[sabrina 1]

63. Machiavelli didn't trust foreign mercenaries and criticized their

use in his writings.

Briefly this was his opinion of foreign mercs:

Maintain a strong military force to keep the peace and to provide a buffer against foreigners who might invade or stir up mischief among the native population. This military force should consist of citizens of the domain, not foreign mercenaries. The latter are often untrustworthy

[maryf]

64. on mercenaries from Machiavelli

He doesn't advise them:

http://www.constitution.org/mac/prince12.htm

The Prince
by Nicolo Machiavelli
CHAPTER XII
How Many Kinds Of Soldiery There Are, And Concerning Mercenaries

HAVING discoursed particularly on the characteristics of such principalities as in the beginning I proposed to discuss, and having considered in some degree the causes of their being good or bad, and having shown the methods by which many have sought to acquire them and to hold them, it now remains for me to discuss generally the means of offence and defence which belong to each of them.

We have seen above how necessary it is for a prince to have his foundations well laid, otherwise it follows of necessity he will go to ruin. The chief foundations of all states, new as well as old or composite, are good laws and good arms; and as there cannot be good laws where the state is not well armed, it follows that where they are well armed they have good laws. I shall leave the laws out of the discussion and shall speak of the arms.

I say, therefore, that the arms with which a prince defends his state are either his own, or they are mercenaries, auxiliaries, or mixed. Mercenaries and auxiliaries are useless and dangerous; and if one holds his state based on these arms, he will stand neither firm nor safe; for they are disunited, ambitious and without discipline, unfaithful, valiant before friends, cowardly before enemies; they have neither the fear of God nor fidelity to men, and destruction is deferred only so long as the attack is; for in peace one is robbed by them, and in war by the enemy. The fact is, they have no other attraction or reason for keeping the field than a trifle of stipend, which is not sufficient to make them willing to die for you. They are ready enough to be your soldiers whilst you do not make war, but if war comes they take themselves off or run from the foe; which I should have little trouble to prove, for the ruin of Italy has been caused by nothing else than by resting all her hopes for many years on mercenaries, and although they formerly made some display and appeared valiant amongst themselves, yet when the foreigners came they showed what they were. Thus it was that Charles, King of France, was allowed to seize Italy with chalk in hand; 1 and he who told us that our sins were the cause of it told the truth, but they were not the sins he imagined, but those which I have related. And as they were the sins of princes, it is the princes who have also suffered the penalty.

I wish to demonstrate further the infelicity of these arms. The mercenary captains are either capable men or they are not; if they are, you cannot trust them, because they always aspire to their own greatness, either by oppressing you, who are their master, or others contrary to your intentions; but if the captain is not skilful, you are ruined in the usual way.

And if it be urged that whoever is armed will act in the same way, whether mercenary or not, I reply that when arms have to be resorted to, either by a prince or a republic, then the prince ought to go in person and perform the duty of captain; the republic has to send its citizens, and when one is sent who does not turn out satisfactorily, it ought to recall him, and when one is worthy, to hold him by the laws so that he does not leave the command. And experience has shown princes and republics, single-handed, making the greatest progress, and mercenaries doing nothing except damage; and it is more difficult to bring a republic, armed with its own arms, under the sway of one of its citizens than it is to bring one armed with foreign arms. Rome and Sparta stood for many ages armed and free. The Switzers are completely armed and quite free.

Of ancient mercenaries, for example, there are the Carthaginians, who were oppressed by their mercenary soldiers after the first war with the Romans, although the Carthaginians had their own citizens for captains. After the death of Epaminondas, Philip of Macedon was made captain of their soldiers by the Thebans, and after victory he took away their liberty.

[Catherina]

18. Situation in tripoli we hear helicopters overheard no firing just yet, benghazi is free

ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
Situation in tripoli we hear helicopters overheard no firing just yet, benghazi is free #Libya #Feb17
2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

19. no longer any doubt. Gaddafi has unequivocally declared intention to massacre his own people.

marwame Marwa Elnaggar
RT @shadihamid If there was any doubt before..no longer: #Gaddafi has unequivocally declared intention to massacre his own people. #Libya
6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

21. #Obama has just made a public speech and has not made a single comment on #Libya or #Gaddafi

MilitantNews MilitantNews
#Obama has just made a public speech and has not made a single comment on #Libya or #Gaddafi
9 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[defendandprotect]

32. kr -- Obama is making himself clearer every day -- sadly!

[chill_wind]

22. Arab League to hold emergency meeting on Libya in Cairo

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/22/libya-arableague-idUSLDE71L0BP20110222

[Catherina]

23. if udon't raise your hands chanting "God, Gaddafi & Libya only" you risk 2b shot. 4 men shot 4 this

AliTweel علي عامر الطويل
@
@cammonbear if you don't raise your hands chanting "God, Gaddafi and Libya only" you are risking to be shot. happened. 4 killed in aien zara
4 hours ago

[Catherina]

24. the gunfire now sounds like rain,, started 6:00pm and increased after Gaddafi speech

AliTweel علي عامر الطويل
the gunfire now sounds like rain.
28 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply


AliTweel علي عامر الطويل
@
@dvinin started 6:00pm and increased after Gaddafi speech
22 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply


This guy's in Tripoli

[roamer65]

25. I hope the Libyan people kill Gaddafi and hang his body by its heels...

...and then beat it to a bloody pulp just like Mussolini.

[Catherina]

29. Heels? I was at heels 4 days ago, I've since switched to another body part

I dare not even post here what I want to see happen to that worm.

[Catherina]

27. alarming thing: #Gaddafi claiming he hasn't used force yet. All this isn't force?! Scares me to thin

Libyan4life Jeel Ghathub
The ONLY alarming thing: #Gaddafi claiming he hasn't used force yet. All this isn't force?! Scares me to think what he has in mind.
17 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

28. Breaking News: Holland and Afghanistan deny any involvement with the drugs Qaddafi is using.

Elazul Elazul
Breaking News: Holland and Afghanistan deny any involvement with the drugs Qaddafi is using.
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply


I'm sorry, I go from being chilled to laughing knowing this is no laughing matter. Now I feel like crying for that.

[CJvR]

33. LOL!

Good one!!!

[defendandprotect]

35. They're giving us truth in humor --

[Poboy]

37. Funny though...nt

[Catherina]

30. Ruwanda is happening all over again in #Libya. Same western response. #Pathetic

RuwaydaMustafah Ruwayda Mustafah
by Elazul
Ruwanda is happening all over again in #Libya. Same western response. #Pathetic
10 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply


Dear Hillary, it's 3AM and your phone is ringing.

[Catherina]

31. Al Jazeera: Al Qaddafi burned all the corpses & cleaned the streets 2 erase the traces of his acts

libyafreedomnew Libyanews
by ChangeInLibya
Al Jazeera: Shammam: Al Qaddafi burned all the corpses and cleaned the streets to erase the traces of his acts...#libya #feb17
12 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[defendandprotect]

Gaddafi is frightened and no matter what he does the evidence will be there -

unless he kills everyone in Libya!

[Desertrose]

54. Saves lives Qadaffi- take your life first.....you want to be a martyr, right? nt

[Catherina]

34. Qaddafi is the reason I am not a pacifist. Never held a gun in my life, but I bet I could pull the t

lisang Lisa Goldman
by ChangeInLibya
Muammar Qaddafi is the reason I am not a pacifist. Never held a gun in my life, but I bet I could pull the trigger while looking at him.
13 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

36. Suggested plan: Libyan AF apply no fly zone, bomb roads to palace bar one, march his palace lynch hi

ArabRevolution تباً لكم ياطواغيت
#Libya here is the plan: Libyan AF apply no fly zone, bomb roads to palace bar one, march his palace lynch him. Dont forget 2 take pikchurs
55 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[defendandprotect]

39. What are the possibilities friendly Libyan AF might bomb palace?

Gaddafi is obviously the head of this insane attack on the people of Libya --

Enough Libyan martyrs -- move to save the people!

I M O !!!

[CJvR]

43. IIRC...

...they bombed bases of questionable loyalty around Tripoli today.

Like the Egyptian revolt there is a lack of leadership, and that hurts more when your opponent is a rabid raving lunatic who shoot at you.

[Catherina]

40. We are all a bit upset tonight, not because we feel defeated, but because we know gaddafi, he will t

ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
by lrep
We are all a bit upset tonight, not because we feel defeated, but because we know gaddafi, he will try to kill anyone and everyone #Libya
27 minutes ago

[Dokkie]

41. K & R

Down with the Libyan govt

[Catherina]

42. DN: Obama Admin Criticized 4 Minimal Response,, $165 million contract to arm the Libyan Armed Forces

democracynow Democracy Now!
by officiallyben
NEWS: Obama Admin Criticized Over Its Minimal Response to Violent Crackdown on Protests in #Libya. http://ow.ly/41fzn #jan25
7 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Obama Administration Criticized Over Response to Libyan Violence

Many Libyan-American activists have criticized the Obama administration for its minimal response to the bloody crackdown on protests by the Libyan government. President Obama last mentioned Libya on Friday. U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has not said anything publicly but issued a statement Monday calling for a halt to the "unacceptable bloodshed."

...

U.S., Europe and Libya Relationship Strengthened through Corporate, Military Ties

In recent years, Libya has strengthened its ties to the United States and many European nations. Two years ago, the U.S. firm General Dynamics signed a $165 million contract to arm the Libyan Armed Forces’ elite second brigade. Halliburton, Shell, Raytheon, Dow Chemical and Chevron are all members of the U.S.-Libya Business Association. And in 2009, it was revealed that British forces were training Libyan special forces in counterterrorism techniques.


http://www.democracynow.org/2011/2/22/headlines

[defendandprotect]

61. Disgusting -- !! When are we the people going to stop this MIC -- !!??

[Catherina]

45. 2 boys shot from balcony of house in #tajoura

IbnOmar2005 Ibn Omar
by fluffyhoneybee
Contact in #tripoli: 2 boys shot from balcony of house in #tajoura #libya
5 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

46. heavy gunfire in Jumhuria (Republic) Road in central Tripoli

SultanAlQassemi Sultan Al Qassemi
Al Jazeera: Sources: heavy gunfire in Jumhuria (Republic) Road in central Tripoli. #Libya
10 minutes ago

[Catherina]

47. don't joke 2 camps belong 2 his kids full of katusha missiles, that can wipe tripoli

Odarhobi Othman Darhobi
#Libya watch out don't joke about this, 2 camps belong 2 his kids full of katusha missiles, in Tajura and Bab Alaziza that can wipe tripoli
1 minute ago

[Catherina]

48. Guys we need 500 signatures on this petition, WE ONLY NEED 14 MORE! Come on my loyal tweepers, we go

AliLePointe Jibreel
by Odarhobi
Guys we need 500 signatures on this petition, WE ONLY NEED 14 MORE! Come on my loyal tweepers, we got this! http://tiny.cc/tu0yh
9 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply


That was 9 hrs ago but more would help

[steve2470]

56. still needs signatures nt

[Catherina]

49. Interview with Benghazi spokesman: What was your reaction to Gaddafi's speech?

gfry Gilles Frydman
by acarvin
Interview with Benghazi spokesman: What was your reaction to Gaddafi's speech? We laugh in his face, we are currently TRYING to help Tripoli
4 minutes ago

[Catherina]

50. Do you have army in the street? No, we are free!

gfry Gilles Frydman
by acarvin
Interview with Benghazi spokesman: Do you have army in the street? No, we are free!
6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

51. Abbass (PLO) says #Libya is "an internal matter" and wishes Libya "security and stability".

iyad_elbaghdadi Iyad El-Baghdadi
Abass's Palestinian Authority says what's happening in #Libya is "an internal matter" and wishes Libya "security and stability". #Feb17
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply


What a good imperial little lapdog you are.

[Desertrose]

53. Good grief.

How ya doin' Catherine?
:hug: You are amazing for this...thank you!!

[Catherina]

52. Arab League hasn't suspended Libya, just banned their reps from participating in meetings.

acarvin Andy Carvin
Arab League hasn't suspended Libya per se, according to AJE. Instead they've banned their reps from participating in meetings.
3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply


And another firm response to the mass slaughter. But this is no surprise.

[Catherina]

55. in Tajura, nothing but continuous gun fire, women being killed becz they walked out or peaked from w

Odarhobi Othman Darhobi
#Libya Now in Tajura you hear nothing but continuous gun fire, women being killed becz they walked out or peaked from window, it's not joke
3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

57. Video of Koran that saved a man by stopping the bullet

Shnesh Sarah Hnesh
Probably one of the most amazing vids I've seen...God is Great! Qu'ran stops bullet!! http://tiny.cc/wstbi #Libya #Tripoli #Benghazi
3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmKTbbzD_Po&feature=player_embedded#at=32

[Catherina]

58. UK sold £9.4m of military equipment to #Libya in three months last year

marmite_news Real World News
The UK sold £9.4m of military equipment to #Libya in three months last year. via @ROKCalifornia1 #CAAT #Feb17 #HumanRights
5 minutes ago Favorite Retweet ReplyReply

[Catherina]

59. wants the ppl to fear him, but we are done fearing him. Even if he kills us, we will not fear him. T

Cyrenaican Libyana Americana
He wants the ppl to fear him, but we are done fearing him. Even if he kills us, we will not fear him. That is why he will never win.
2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

60. Part 6 here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x481899