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AmBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 01:50 PM
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Dear Mr. President.... We need you now, sir.
Dear Mr. President,

I am eagerly awaiting your strong voice in support of the teachers and public servants in Madison, Wisconsin who are fighting in the freezing cold against an upstart, corporate bought-and-sold governor who would take away their rights to bargain collectively.

I still remember like it was yesterday when you were campaigning for the office of the Presidency you saying: "I believe in unions." You are such a strong supporter of unions! We need your voice, Mr. President. This battle is coming on hard and strong and we will fight it in all our states before too long.

But we need you Mr. President-- our President who believes strongly in the rights of workers and their unions-- to stand with us. To use that bully pulpit. We need you now, sir.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 01:51 PM
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1. If thats what he actually believed in
wild horses couldn't have kept him away.
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AmBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 01:53 PM
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2. We should flood the White House...
Edited on Tue Feb-22-11 01:54 PM by AmBlue
...with INCESSANT reminders of his promise to the American people, like the people of Wisconsin are flooding their capitol. It's the least we can do.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 01:53 PM
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3. I'm afraid
Mr President doesn't want to appear to be "partisan".

Why the HELL isn't he speaking out?????
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 01:53 PM
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4. You are such a strong supporter of unions!
You used to be such a strong supporter of unions!
(When you needed their support to win office.....)
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AmBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 01:56 PM
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9. Barack Obama: "I Believe In Unions"
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:03 PM
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14. EFCA? ........ Anyone.......?
"We're ready to take the offense for organized labor. It's time we have a President who didn't choke saying the word 'union.' We need to strengthen our unions by letting them do what they do best --- organize our workers. If a majority of workers want a union, they should get a union. It's that simple. We need to stand up to the business lobby that's been getting their friends in Congress and in the White House to block card check. That's why I was one of the leaders fighting to pass the Employee Free Choice Act. That's why I'm fighting for it in the Senate. And that's why we'll make it the law of the land when I'm President."

Barack Obama, Dubuque, IA, November 13, 2007
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:18 PM
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20. "We need to stand up to the business lobby"
Yeah, right. LOL.




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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:36 PM
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24. he's like a lot of people who 'make it'. they suck up to the class they
want to fit into and run from what they were before. His mom and grandparents can't be too proud right now, I will hazard a guess,.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:55 PM
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29. Yes. Very common syndrome
Happens all the time in the corporate world. People get promoted and before you know it, they're taking golf lessons and they stop returning your calls. Psychologists should give this syndrome a name.
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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 04:05 PM
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33. They did. It's called: "Bait and Switch" n/t
Edited on Tue Feb-22-11 04:05 PM by Modern_Matthew
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 01:53 PM
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5. Obama joins Wisconsin's budget battle, opposing Republican anti-union bill
Friday, February 18, 2011; 1:01 PM

MADISON, WIS. - President Obama thrust himself and his political operation this week into Wisconsin's broiling budget battle, mobilizing opposition Thursday to a Republican bill that would curb public-worker benefits and planning similar protests in other state capitals.

Obama accused Scott Walker, the state's new Republican governor, of unleashing an "assault" on unions in pushing emergency legislation that would change future collective-bargaining agreements that affect most public employees, including teachers.

The president's political machine worked in close coordination Thursday with state and national union officials to get thousands of protesters to gather in Madison and to plan similar demonstrations in other state capitals.

More: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/17/AR2011021705494.html
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 01:55 PM
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7. If you listened to his comments, it wasn't a great oratorical moment
He said it apologetically and very quietly.

I would have preferred some vintage populist Obamaspeak at that time.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 01:58 PM
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11. Not the way I heard it
Maybe he could have called Walker some names or something?
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:17 PM
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19. We heard it differently. I'm fine with that. n/t
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 01:58 PM
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12. Obama joins Wisconsin's budget battle, opposing Republican anti-union bill
Friday, February 18, 2011; 1:01 PM

MADISON, WIS. - President Obama thrust himself and his political operation this week into Wisconsin's broiling budget battle, mobilizing opposition Thursday to a Republican bill that would curb public-worker benefits and planning similar protests in other state capitals.

Obama accused Scott Walker, the state's new Republican governor, of unleashing an "assault" on unions in pushing emergency legislation that would change future collective-bargaining agreements that affect most public employees, including teachers.

The president's political machine worked in close coordination Thursday with state and national union officials to get thousands of protesters to gather in Madison and to plan similar demonstrations in other state capitals.

More: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/17/AR2011021705494.html
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:35 PM
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22. He forgot to say "fuck the GOP." For many, nothing less will do.
I favor statesmanship; I'm funny that way.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:36 PM
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23. You too are entitled to your opinion.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:00 PM
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13. Funny how
the fact that Wisconsin voters were stupid enough to elect pukes across the board is now going to be seen by "some" as Obama's fault too.
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FredStembottom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:04 PM
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15. Thnx, tridim.
I am often on the negative side of the "Obama Divide" but he did speak up already - and that needs to be pointed out.

At this point, I prefer to encourage him (root of encourage? Courage.)

Let's give him our strength as we go.

No Big Business PAC can vote. Millions and millions of disgruntled workers and Democrats in general can.

:dem:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:36 PM
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25. Very sane statement. I've been seriously criticizing Obama lately, but
He's approaching this wisely--I think he's trying very hard NOT to make this a political issue--and he's right to approach it that way.
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FredStembottom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:14 AM
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42. You echo the other reply I just read.
..and find both comments kind of light-bulb-moment-y.

American citizens might be better tenders of this "crop" of rebellion right now.

Better for it to grow into the president's purview?


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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 03:10 PM
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30. Yes he did speak up. As a critic of Obama............
I'm not going to slight what he's already done. It wouldn't hurt of course, for him to speak out again and again on this subject.

But as I've said in other posts, if he REALLY puts himself in the middle of this, he risks politicizing it as a Rep/Dem thing. As in, "politics as usual". At the present time, it's a have/have not dynamic or power/dispossessed dynamic. As soon as he gets deeper involved (physical presence), it takes away from that dynamic.
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FredStembottom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:06 AM
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41. Usefull... well stated.
Worth thinking over, what you just said there.

I hadn't seen a trap for O in becoming involved- but you give me pause.

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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 01:55 PM
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6. What -- the GOP is not being bipartisan?
Unheard of.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 01:56 PM
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8. He has voiced his support.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 01:58 PM
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:05 PM
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16. There were a lot of DUers strongly against Obama bailing out
the big three auto makers too, thus saving hundreds of thousands on union workers from losing their jobs. I guess it depends on who's ox is being gored.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 04:06 PM
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 04:25 PM
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37. That is a indirect presumption. Bailing out any company would
help people retain their jobs union or not. It wasn't about saving jobs, it was about loaning corps money. This is what some on DU didn't like.
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FredStembottom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:14 PM
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18. Hopefully not.
There are many of us out here that are falling into desperate condition.

Loud, angry things may get said as we watch our family members fall.

If Obama should now choose to make his words and actions commensurate to the emergencies at hand, he will receive praise commensurate to his words and actions. We are skidding down Maslow's hierarchy real fast now.

Many of us are just getting too beat up to even notice if we have liked Obama enough today.
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AmBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 03:38 PM
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31. "Many of us are just getting too beat up,,,
...to even notice if we have liked Obama enough today."

Amen, Fred. And well said.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 04:19 PM
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35. ...And his fierce advocacy.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:06 PM
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17. Don't hold your breath ...
I'm certainly not. He's too busy with his "listening tour of business," AKA, kissing the Chamber's butt.

Bake
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JoseGaspar Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:29 PM
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21. Barack Obama is President of the United States?

No shit.

I must have missed that...

Which Party Line did he run on?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:40 PM
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26. How is it that
so many people, including the unions, heard the President, but others missed it?

Obama voices strong support for Wisconsin public employees

The union leaders and workers heard.

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AmBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 03:56 PM
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32. I didn't miss it.
I found that statement to be mealy-mouthed-- more like a psychologist trying to soft-pedal some bad news for ears that are unwilling to hear. In my letter I asked for our President's "strong voice" in support of the unions. I asked for him to be the passionate advocate of our nation's labor force and the people who-- it just happens-- got him elected, just like when he was courting the unions for their support of his candidacy. Go listen to that youtube link above and then tell me there's not a difference.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:40 PM
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27. So one perfunctory statement by President Obama isn't good enough?

Do you want President Obama to get in trouble with Wall Street, corporate America and Republicans by pushing the issue?
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:40 PM
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28. Maybe we'd be better off without him.
This is a spontaneous grass roots movement. He's been more part of the problem than the solution since he's took office.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 04:35 PM
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39. I'd say it's going to happen without him anyway
So folks might as well go ahead and fight for themselves. Sooner or later, a "leader" might decide to run around the group and pretend he's been leading it all along, but until then . . . ?
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 04:21 PM
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36. Self delete
Edited on Tue Feb-22-11 04:22 PM by RegieRocker
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 04:30 PM
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38. Looks like Obama just threw the unions and the DNC under the bus
Ben Smith: DNC, under the bus
February 22, 2011

The DNC was, earlier this week, eager to tout its role in the Wisconsin protests -- though it never claimed to have inspired or run them. But when conservatives seized on the report, the party quickly clarified its role. Now, the White House, er, clarifies further to Jackie Calmes:

Administration officials said Sunday that the White House had done nothing to encourage the demonstrations in Wisconsin — nor was it doing so in Ohio, Florida and other states where new Republican governors are trying to make deep cuts to balance their budgets....


...More broadly, one Democrat who doesn't work for the White House or DNC suggested to me a few days ago that Obama's and the DNC's intervention made sense as a free way to please organized labor -- without spending political capital on the Hill or actual dollars in the budget to do it, and one that seemed unlikely to be a voting issue in 2012. The walkback makes that judgment seem a bit less clear.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0211/DNC_under_the_bus.html
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 04:39 PM
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40. As I've said, this is probably the stand he SHOULD........
take under these circumstances. This does NOT need to be able to be spun as "politics as usual". And that's the way it will go if Obama gets involved any deeper.

HOWEVER, it STILL wouldn't hurt if he came out stongly in favor of collective bargaining in a general philosophic sense.
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