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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 05:03 PM
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Testing Finds No Health Threat Along West Coast
The U.S. Department of Energy said minuscule amounts of the radioactive isotopes iodine-131, iodine-132, tellurium-132 and cesium-137 had reached a Sacramento monitoring station tied to the U.N.'s Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty Organization, but the readings were far below levels that could pose any health risks.

A detector at the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory in Washington State earlier this week also detected trace amounts of xenon-133 - a gas produced during nuclear fission - the DOE said.

The doses that a person normally receives from rocks, bricks, the sun and other natural background sources are 100,000 times the dose rates detected at either location, the DOE and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency said in a joint statement.

The statement confirmed statements from diplomats and officials in Vienna earlier in the day.

http://www.justnews.com/health/27242003/detail.html

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Now let me explain this since people are having a hard time with this.

1.- Think of the radiation as wind. And yes it is so low you can laugh about it.

2.- Particles... those are the ones that are a concern. IF Fukushima stopped tomorrow expelling crap then it WILL NOT concentrate in the food supply. If this goes on for weeks on end... (as expected) then IT WILL start concentrating in your milk supply.

For food supplies, milk the concern is iodine. Right now it is like minuscule. I hope they keep giving us updates and do not assume we are all rubes.

On and Iodine has a relative fast half life, that is the good news.

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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 05:28 PM
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1. Thank you.
Unless and until the Japanese Nuclear plants stop releasing radiation, I choose to be safe and buy shelf-stable milk for now.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 05:30 PM
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2. Remember to avoid West Coast for a while though... and as it goes on
Edited on Sat Mar-19-11 05:37 PM by nadinbrzezinski
:-)

Oh and forgot... today was our cut off date to get it
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 05:31 PM
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3. Ho Humm.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 05:32 PM
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4. Well we have had many people saying that NO particles
would reach the West Coast, distance and all. While minimal it is the time this lasts.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 05:59 PM
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5. Let us hope it is truth
:bounce:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 06:00 PM
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6. Let us hope the "leak" stops SOON
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 06:23 PM
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7. Very soon.
:hi:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 06:23 PM
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8. PLEASE!
The last thing we need is contaminated milk and food.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 10:46 PM
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24. That's just it.
We have no way of knowing for sure.
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Redford Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 06:32 PM
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9. Good News
Hopefully they will get it contained soon.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 07:03 PM
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10. Thanks for that info.
I think there are two isotopes of iodine - one of which has a half-life of 8 days, and the other millions of years.

It appears, thanks to these discussions, I have been consuming good amounts of iodine, anyway. Yeah!

And I use powdered goat milk - which I guess is dated.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 07:21 PM
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13. well I hope you are not taking grams
instead of just your regular multi vitamin...

Me... actually miso with kelp... adds a few mcg... then again my thyroid is mostly dead, which actually reduced MY risk.

Ironic, I know.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 07:35 PM
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14. Nope.
I did not know that cocoa had high levels of iodine, and I like to drink that instead of eating chocolate. ACtually, I get less cocoa that way than eating chocolate.

I also like to eat seaweed products now and again.

Then "Greens" health bars have spirulina and chlorella --- of which I eat one a week when I shop for groceries.

So, I have been getting it from good food products, without being aware of it.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 07:39 PM
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15. :-)
Miso is tasty...and it is a product of the US
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 07:43 PM
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16. I used to drink it when I could find it.
I need to find it again. Maybe iHerb has it - I should check.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 07:46 PM
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17. Here is the brand I found at the store
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 07:52 PM
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18. Thanks - those look good!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 07:57 PM
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21. They are... taking one a day
they have some kelp, product of the US.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 07:03 PM
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11. Thanks for the info. Don't worry about the ridiculers. They don't seem to live on the west coast.
I just cannot believe there are still people on here defending nuclear power. Now that's ridiculous!

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 07:20 PM
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12. To me the important thing is not the background
rad. but the particles.

As to the west coast, we took the precaution of getting the milk and getting it for nephews as well. Me... meh... they are growing though.
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hankthecrank Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 07:54 PM
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19. except Cal passed Wis as biggest dairy producer in 1993
Edited on Sat Mar-19-11 08:06 PM by hankthecrank
so milk and cheese travel along ways

milk powder travels more and used in more things

whey powder also travels

know of some coffee creamer that made it all the way to near Chicago warehouse and then went all over US
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 07:56 PM
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20. Yep...
I know, I am going to start buying european imported cheese... time distance... for a while.
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hankthecrank Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 08:14 PM
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22. k & r n/t
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 10:43 PM
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23. Oh thank you, thank you. "Now let me explain this since people are having a hard time with this."
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 11:00 PM
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25. So enthralling, so brilliant, so gosh darn not condescending at all. n/t
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NHDemProg Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 12:03 AM
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27. Strange,
But as a kid I remember hearing that Strontium-90 was the big worry. And frankly, I'll take my chances with an extra millirem or ten over and above the 300-400 I get every year as opposed to the side effects of taking iodine. Something about renal failure, nausea, things like that just don't sound like a whole lot of fun.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 01:51 AM
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TheManInTheMac Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:05 AM
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31. "I hope they keep giving us updates and do not assume we are all rubes."
See, we're the rubes and nadin is here to dumb it down for us.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:13 AM
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32. I'd be lost without having it put in simple words
for my widdle bwain to understand.

IGGY LIST!!
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NHDemProg Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 11:39 PM
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26. How come I haven't got my Fan Club Membership yet?
And now does it come with a free bottle of milk?
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TheManInTheMac Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:14 AM
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33. Hey! Welcome to the club!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 12:13 AM
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28. Well lets do some investigating next month and every month there after!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 01:53 AM
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30. Those monitors work 24/7/365
And will continue to capture whatever it is.

Let's hope the source stops...7-10 days afterwards it will stop.
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