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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 07:21 AM Original message |
The Teabaggers will win. I see no choice for the Democrats/Obama but to cave in to their demands... |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 07:22 AM Response to Original message |
1. Most polls show that the GOPers get blamed if the government shuts down |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 09:13 AM Response to Reply #1 |
33. The Republicans act as if they don't care, and they have a reasonable allabi... |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
2. I don't think so ... |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 09:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
34. All the more reason why the Teabaggers control the agenda. The Republicans need |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:53 AM Response to Reply #34 |
65. I agree that they do want one, but not that the Dems need to cave on it. |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. But eventually we need a budget. Either there's a budget or government remains shutdown. |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
3. Your last sentence says it all for me. The 2010 "shellacking " can be blamed on only one thing... |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 07:35 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. The battered spouse is at fault? |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 09:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
35. You're not listening. The bottom line is that we have more Teabaggers in Congress |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
4. step back from the crystal ball. n/t |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
5. Option #4 - remember Wisconsin! |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
6. Excuse me, but it isn't the Teabaggers who are the actual key here, |
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davidthegnome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 08:06 AM Response to Reply #6 |
19. I'm not sure I agree |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #19 |
41. The only "life" he is afraid for is his political one |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:18 AM Response to Reply #6 |
42. Actually, it IS about Boehner because he is in lockstep with the Teabaggers. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Actually I don't think that he is in lockstep, |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
7. The battered spouse is at fault? |
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Siouxmealso (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 09:07 AM Response to Reply #7 |
31. actually, both sides won |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 09:37 AM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Actually, they didn't. |
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davidthegnome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 07:35 AM Response to Original message |
8. Not going to bash you at all, but.. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 09:41 AM Response to Reply #8 |
40. Although I rarely agree with him these days, |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:21 AM Response to Reply #8 |
45. I'm happy to hear alternative solutions. As a federal employee, we're holding our collective breaths |
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vi5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 07:36 AM Response to Original message |
10. Ah, I see the pre-emptive spins and excuses are starting... |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:22 AM Response to Reply #10 |
46. Happy to hear your solutions to this issue, then. Are there enough Democratic |
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vi5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #46 |
56. The same solution Clinton found... |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:43 AM Response to Reply #56 |
64. Let the government shut down is not a viable solution in the long run. |
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A wise Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
11. Tea party..Teaparty...Tea party.... |
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erinlough (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:41 AM Response to Reply #11 |
71. You are indeed a wise man |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
12. Unrec. This is what happens when people think voting matters. nt |
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davidthegnome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 07:51 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Was that sarcasm? |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 09:18 AM Response to Reply #14 |
36. No. |
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demmiblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
13. Preemptive excuse-making, IMHO. n/t |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
15. So we should let certified morons dictate policy? |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #15 |
49. No. You have to push reasonable Republicans in the House to do the right thing. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
16. Your strategy is suicide. You can't just keep bending over for hijackers and terrorist. |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:23 AM Response to Reply #16 |
47. Your solutions, please? What are they? |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 04:39 PM Response to Reply #47 |
78. Shut down all negotiations and tell them to sit and spin. |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
17. Unrecc. |
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Poboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
18. Of course they will win. The more committed party will ALWAYS win. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
20. Sounds like you're letting the "great bi-partisan compromisers" off the hook and blaming the people! |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:27 AM Response to Reply #20 |
50. Nope. I'm facing reality. Tell me how we get Republicans to join Democrats in the House |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
21. Another OP cleverly crafted to beat up on the loyal Democratic |
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vi5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 08:19 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. We can't lose sight of the most important issue... |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:28 AM Response to Reply #21 |
51. Nope. I'm being totally honest about this. There are MORE Republicans/Teabaggers in the House. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
23. I don't think so. As soon as the country feels the pain, the Teabaggers will feel their wrath. |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 09:10 AM Response to Reply #23 |
32. If the situation was reversed the Dems would surely be condemned |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 09:25 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Of course and the RW MSM would put those videos on a constant loop |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #23 |
52. I hope you're right. With our Corporate Media praising Righteous Ryan, I'm not convinced. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #52 |
74. Oh, they will. When it hurts THEM where it counts. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
24. there is a silver lining to the government such down... |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:21 AM Response to Reply #24 |
44. not true. They will still get SS checks and their doctors will be reimbursed. |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #24 |
54. They'll still receive their SS/Medicare checks. And they'll still foolishly support |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
25. They are the Republicans. There is no Tea Party. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
27. I wish Democrats would eliminate the concept of "caving" from their minds. |
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samrock (501 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
28. I think you are WRONG... |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #28 |
55. I hope you're right and I'm 100% wrong. |
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RickFromMN (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
29. Every once in a while I look at the Mark Fiore cartoons, here is a link to one on uncompromise. |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
30. option 3 does not avoid further damage to the economy |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #30 |
57. If the Corporate Media would cease heaping praise on Paul Ryan and look |
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Rocknrule (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
37. Teabaggers = stormtroopers for the wealthy |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
43. They need to.... |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:34 AM Response to Reply #43 |
58. Why? Why hurt millions of federal employees and their families? |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
53. Call their bluff. |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:35 AM Response to Reply #53 |
59. If Democrats play their cards right and frame the message, we may be able to win this. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
60. I disagree. Very few of those politicians are Teabaggers. |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #60 |
68. The problem is that right now the Republican Establishment and the Teabaggers share a common goal... |
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svsuman23 (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
61. playing devils advocate: who didn't pass the last budget to give the repukes leverage on this |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:40 AM Response to Reply #61 |
70. I made this point upthread. The Democrats failed to pass a budget last year |
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rdking647 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
62. time to call their bluff |
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rdking647 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
63. tell the go that they will cut 50B |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
67. Oh yeah, that'll work... |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #67 |
72. I hope you're right. I hope Democrats will fight. And I hope there are reasonable |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
69. They already have. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
73. Option #4 go vacation in Hawaii until the House brings a tolerable bill. n/t |
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roman7 (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
75. servant never! |
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Wait Wut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
76. K&R for this... |
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Poboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
77. I just want to kick this as it is so weak, so pathetic, so disgusting, |
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demmiblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
79. nonsense kick. n/t |
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