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Botany

(70,281 posts)
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 07:51 AM Dec 2017

Trump has been working with Russia to be POTUS since 2013 .... Washington Post/Seth Abramson

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2017/12/06/people-cant-stop-reading-a-professors-theory-of-a-trump-russia-conspiracy-true-or-not/?tid=hybrid_experimentrandom_with_top_mostshared_1_na&utm_term=.b33fdcf31891

After trying for many years to expand his business empire into Russia, Abramson asserts, Trump visited Moscow in 2013 to personally meet agents of Russian President Vladmir Putin, using his beauty pageant as cover.

There, Abramson writes, a secret deal was struck: Putin agreed to open up his country’s rich real estate market to Trump, and Trump agreed to campaign for president while promoting pro-Russian policies.

Simple as that. And everything that has happened since — the election hacking, Trump’s improbable win and a special counsel’s investigation into his campaign and administration — follows from that deal, in Abramson’s telling.

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“The CORE NARRATIVE is simple,” as Abramson wrote in a typically styled Twitter thread over the weekend. “America was SOLD OUT by men who wanted POWER and were willing to trade U.S. POLICY to get it.”

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Trump, "I never had any connections to Russia."


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Trump has been working with Russia to be POTUS since 2013 .... Washington Post/Seth Abramson (Original Post) Botany Dec 2017 OP
I believe it janterry Dec 2017 #1
Abramson does a good job of documenting his tweets. 50 Shades Of Blue Dec 2017 #2
seems plausible D_Master81 Dec 2017 #3
BLOTUS has a simple mind so it makes sense that a sinister plot as a sell-out is simple too. PearliePoo2 Dec 2017 #4
Completely believable... Wounded Bear Dec 2017 #5
yeap he's been a cultivated agent and what Mueller is uncovering is testament of that onetexan Dec 2017 #7
The sad thing is about 25 to 30% of Americans are OK with the Trump/Republican/Russia/Putin deal ... Botany Dec 2017 #8
Seth Abramson is the correct spelling. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #6
+1 dalton99a Dec 2017 #10
Ah, those simpler days of yesteryear. sarge43 Dec 2017 #9
Treason. PatrickforO Dec 2017 #11
Trump and Russia go way back McCamy Taylor Dec 2017 #12
Connecting the dots on Trump's selling out America is pretty easy. FailureToCommunicate Dec 2017 #13

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
3. seems plausible
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 08:48 AM
Dec 2017

would love to see something come out that confirms this, but it seems plausible since Trump goes out of his way to avoid saying anything neg whatsoever about Putin and Russia.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
4. BLOTUS has a simple mind so it makes sense that a sinister plot as a sell-out is simple too.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 08:52 AM
Dec 2017

I read Seth every day and I really appreciate the extensive, committed work he's doing.

K&R



onetexan

(12,994 posts)
7. yeap he's been a cultivated agent and what Mueller is uncovering is testament of that
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 09:52 AM
Dec 2017

we have a treasonous illegitimate DOTUS inhabiting the seat of power and under Russian control. Frightening as hell.

Botany

(70,281 posts)
8. The sad thing is about 25 to 30% of Americans are OK with the Trump/Republican/Russia/Putin deal ...
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 09:57 AM
Dec 2017

... because "nothing is sweeter than liberal tears," we had to stop Hillary's liberal agenda,
and something about abortions, coal jobs, guns, global warming is real, kneeling in the NFL,
Jesus, and those colored people.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
6. Seth Abramson is the correct spelling.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 09:52 AM
Dec 2017
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson



2/ Special Counsel Bob Mueller is a lifelong Republican, and the man who oversees his work daily—Acting Attorney General Rod Rosenstein—is a lifelong Republican.

The Republican Rosenstein—who appointed the Republican Mueller—was himself appointed by a Republican: Donald Trump.

3/ When the Republican Trump appointed the Republican Rosenstein, top D.C. Republicans overwhelmingly approved the appointment.

And when the Republican Rosenstein appointed the Republican Mueller, top Republicans overwhelmingly—again—approved the Republican Rosenstein's choice.

4/ The FBI Director now—Wray—is a lifelong Republican, just as the *former* FBI Director (Comey) was a lifelong Republican. The Republican Comey was fired by the Republican Trump.

The head of the DOJ—Sessions—is a lifelong Republican, just as the *acting* head (Rosenstein) is.

5/ Republicans control the White House. Republicans control the United States House of Representatives. Republicans control the United States Senate.

That means Republicans control every one of the three Trump-Russia investigations that are currently ongoing in Washington, D.C.

6/ Republicans control the Trump-Russia investigation in the House Intel Committee. Republicans control the Trump-Russia investigation in the Senate Intel Committee. Republicans control the Trump-Russia investigation in the House Judiciary Committee. Three Republican-led probes.

7/ Republicans also control all the committees in the House of Representatives and Senate that we'd *normally* expect would be conducting investigations into ties between Trump and Russia but are not—because they're Republicans, and they run everything that happens in Washington.

8/ Republicans controlled both the United States House of Representatives and the United States Senate in 2015 and 2016, too.

And that means Republicans were in control of the entire legislative branch in Washington, D.C. for the full course of the Clinton email investigation.

9/ Speaking of the Clinton email investigation, not only was it run by a Republican—Comey—but the FBI field office that was in charge of the Clinton investigation was *so* Republican that it was (and is) called "Trumpland."

Of course, some of the investigation was done by NYPD.

10/ *NYPD* is so Republican it was illegally leaking news—some of it false or misleading—to lifelong Republican Rudy Giuliani (an advisor to the Republican Trump) for the full course of the Clinton investigation. The Republican Giuliani then leaked to the Republican-led Fox News.

11/ FNC is America's most-watched cable news. It's run by a lifelong Republican—Rupert Murdoch—a pal of the Republican Trump. Top FNC anchors include lifelong Republican Sean Hannity—advisor to Republican Trump—and lifelong Republican Jeanine Pirro (advisor to Republican Trump).

12/ The reason the FBI probe run by the Republican Comey took so long is that a veritable clown-car full of lifelong Republicans—including Paul Manafort and Mike Flynn—either lied to the FBI (which is a federal crime) or did anything they could to lead probe investigators astray.

13/ No one has done more to undermine the Trump-Russia probe than the Republican Trump—who, on the advice of the Republican Sessions and the Republican Rosenstein, fired the Republican Comey after he'd been overseeing the probe for a year, forcing unnecessary, significant delays.

14/ The Republican Trump has also used Twitter, Republican rallies, and even a false statement he wrote for his Republican son to generate a flurry of *new* crimes the Republican Mueller must now—with the help of the Republican-led FBI—investigate in addition to everything else.

15/ The Republican Trump, with Republican Congressional allies and Republican advisors nominally working as "journalists" for Republican-run FNC, has also delayed the probe by bringing up nonsense like the idea he was wiretapped in Trump Tower or the GSA is part of a secret plot.

16/ Turns out the GSA—whose General Counsel was a lifelong Republican appointed by the Republican Trump—warned the lifelong Republicans at Trump for America who staffed the all-Republican Presidential Transition Team that their emails would be available to the Republican-led FBI.

17/ So with Republicans running the White House, Congress, DOJ, and the FBI, and therefore all Trump-Russia probes—and having run Congress during the Clinton investigation that was run by a Republican field office of the Republican-led FBI—Republicans have announced a complaint.

18/ Their complaint—naturally—is that DEMOCRATS staged a massive DEMOCRAT plot to plant a mountain of inculpatory DEMOCRAT-developed evidence against the president while erasing a mountain of inculapatory DEMOCRAT-created evidence that would've incriminated the DEMOCRAT Clinton.

19/ This DEMOCRAT plot involved DEMOCRATS somehow convincing several dozen Republican politicians and advisors to lie to the FBI, America, and one another about their contacts with Russia. The DEMOCRAT plot also involved saying not-nice things about Republicans via text messages.

20/ So only a partisan—or conspiracy theorist—would see anything in this wall-to-wall Republican sh*tshow but a big DEMOCRAT conspiracy to (wait for it) put *Mike Pence* in the presidency instead of Donald Trump, as Trump was once a Democrat but Pence never has been.

All clear?

sarge43

(28,939 posts)
9. Ah, those simpler days of yesteryear.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 10:20 AM
Dec 2017

When you could have your Personnel Reliability certification revoked for having a copy of Das Capital in your barracks room.

Now we have a CinC working hand in glove with them Ruskies and the Repugs are fine with it. I guess because they're not commies anymore, it's ok.

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