McGahn put this all in writing... and then he turned it over to Mueller.

[kpete]

Now here is where it gets FUN!

As it turns out, Don McGahn is no dummy.

In fact, he might be the lone smart guy in the place.

McGahn put this all in writing... and then he turned it over to Mueller.

So, basically, Mueller has documentation effectively proving Trump, et al, were made aware Flynn had likely committed crimes AND lied about them to the FBI - which is DEFINITELY a crime.

That knowledge on Trump’s part is the golden key to an obstruction case.

Link to tweet

Refresh your beverage and settle in.read the entire thread for clarity:

Link to tweet

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/12/20/white-house-counsel-knew-in-january-flynn-probably-violated-the-law/

[rurallib]

1. McGahn saving his own ass - you knew that would happen

and the noose gets tighter

[phylny]

2. I'm okay with him saving his own ass if he saves ours as well :) n/t

[bench scientist]

33. Lawyers always document and always CYA

[Farmer-Rick]

3. So when did Trump find out?

Back in Feb 2017, Spicer was lying about it. Seems in 27 Jan 2017, Reince Priebus claims Trump's lawyer was saying everything Trump was doing was A OK.

I wonder if the RepubliCONS will be able to end this investigation and destroy the FBI before little Lord Trump and Lady Malaria are kicked out of the white house?

[RVN VET71]

8. I think Spicer just read and said what he was told

I doubt if anyone thinks he knew what he said to the press was a lie. He may have suspected it was, but I don't think he was privy to the stuff the chief of staff would have known.

Priebus, however, lied.

The GOP is trying its damndest to get Mueller canned, constitution be damned. We'll see if the Dems have the smarts and courage to beat them down.

[OnDoutside]

10. Plus Priebus and McGahn share the same lawyer.

[NastyRiffraff]

24. And that will become awkward

They have two different and contradicting narratives. One of them will need a new lawyer.

[marylandblue]

32. If it were an issue, one would have switched lawyers already

Which means it is likely that Priebus is cooperating with the FBI. If he lied to the public back then, it may be reprehensible, but it isn't a crime.

[OnDoutside]

37. So you think McGahn is also cooperating, even though he's inside the WH ?

[GallopingGhost]

13. Ah, the good old days

of Spicer foaming at the mouth and practically ripping the podium out of the floor at the mere suggestion that the so-called was lying.

[Irish_Dem]

22. I think Spicey may have been lying, he always looked so pained and uncomfortable.

And there was so much illegal stuff going on, he had to know some of it.
I do not think he is a stupid.

[Kirk Lover]

31. In my opinion this is why it's critical to have experience people in leadership roles...they know

the ins and out of this political game better than anybody and that is what it is about.

[MGKrebs]

4. And I think this is why the media has been so obsessed with this scandal.

It's not some vendetta or liberal bias, it's because they know all this stuff, they smell the blood in the water, they just can't report all of it without corroboration. Just the Comey firing alone- Trump praises Comey in October, fails to get a loyalty pledge in January, then fires him in May- is so obviously obstruction.

[DetlefK]

5. And that's not the only problem he has in terms of "what did Trump know and when did he know it".

Trump worked on a real-estate project with a guy named Felix Sater.

Felix Sater has ties to the russian mob.

If Trump knew that, and didn't tell law-enforcement, then Trump is up for racketeering charges.

[YessirAtsaFact]

11. All roads lead to Trump having business dealings with the oligarchs

Probably laundering money for them.

This is probably the biggest compromised hook Putin has. Golden showers are just embarrassing.

Money laundering can put people in jail.

[triron]

41. Adam Schiff seemed to suggest this on Rachel's show 2 nights ago.

[jmbar2]

6. Great read! Merry Christmas to all

This was one of the best Christmas presents I could get - knowing that they've got him boxed in. And that there are patriots in the white house standing up for our democracy. Whew....

[Bernardo de La Paz]

7. I hope it ensnares and brings down Pence too. I think he lied about Flynn. . . nt

[OnDoutside]

9. There was an interesting comment Rachel made last night. She said that McGahn and Priebus felt

they were being railroaded into taking the blame for the Flynn mess. If that was the case, you can bet McGahn at least, had documented everything. She also mused that it's interesting, in the light of McGahn's disclosure to Mueller, that he's still working in the White House. I wonder how long that will continue ?

[ProudMNDemocrat]

29. I thought the same thing too......

That Maddow segment pricked up my ears bigly.

What did Trump know and when did he know it as Rachel went carefully down the timeline of when Sally Yates notified Don McGahn about Flynn, thus telling Trump. That resulted in the firing of Sally Yates. FIRST MISTAKE on Trump's part. Whose idea was that? Trump's or McGahn's?

Then Michael Flynn resigns. Jim Comey is told to go easy on Flynn and drop the FBI Investigation on Flynn. Comey says no and is fired. Cover up? Sure looks like that. If Trump did not know about Flynn's lying to the FBI or his other dealings, he would not have asked Comey for loyalty and drop the investigation that has led to Robert Mueller.

Talk about a big mess for Donald Trump.

[OnDoutside]

38. I would think it was Trump's idea, though a la Comey, maybe Kushner was involved too. Politically

naive, regardless.

[wishstar]

12. Trump&Co received warnings by FBI during campaign, the transition and in WH

Trump gang was warned in August about potential attempts by Russia to collude and need to report such contacts with FBI, Hope Hicks was personally warned by FBI about Russia contacts after it was picked up on intelligence that Russians were emailing her during transition and then Sally Yates of DOJ on behalf of FBI warned WH about Flynn's dishonesty when questioned by FBI over Kislyak.
Trump's intelligence briefings during transition left no doubt about Russian criminal hacking during campaign justifying sanctions.

Yet Trump and his inner circle knowing their Russian contacts involved wrongdoing, continued lying, covering up and withholding even from FBI and Senate/House committees. But getting concrete documentation from McGahn seems crucial for making a solid legal case since Trump has avoided any email or paper trails.

[marble falls]

14. Don McGahn - rhymes with 'John Dean'.

[SHRED]

20. Good one

[marble falls]

23. deja vu or vuja da?

[samnsara]

16. only staff with a death wish would defend the donald at this point

[calimary]

30. Or they're so deep in denial that they can't even see straight.

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And then again, there are those who simply don’t WANT to see straight.

[kentuck]

17. I hope this is true.

I have always thought that McGahn knows a lot.

[L. Coyote]

18. Threadreader is our friend:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/944091651949170688.html

https://threadreaderapp.com/

[SHRED]

21. That looks like a nice app

[L. Coyote]

34. and browser add-on.

[SHRED]

19. I duplicate posted this also

You did a better job.

[Perseus]

25. Can someone please explain to me why no one is addressing the

interview that Trump had with Lester Holt where Trump offered his explanation why he fired Comey? He plainly said it was because of the Russia investigation.

"And in fact when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said 'you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story, it's an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should have won'."

He admitted to firing Comey because of the "Russia thing", if that is not obstruction of justice I need someone to pleas explain..please.

[Fred Sanders]

27. Former General Flynn's plea bargained evidence will help tie this together with handcuffs ready.

[OnDoutside]

39. Because he wasn't under oath ?

[Achilleaze]

26. republicans who have betrayed America deserve

...to be locked up.

[asiliveandbreathe]

28. For the sake of our country why didn't McGhan come forward asap?

Is this client privilege thingy..aren't we the client..WH counsel and all..I must be a dummy..

[eleny]

35. K&R

Nice!

[Mr.Bill]

36. No matter what Mueller comes up with,

the republican Congress will do absolutely nothing.

[OnDoutside]

40. This is the biggest issue. Even if Mueller indicts everyone up to Trump, and Trump then pardons them

the Republicans (as we have seen lately) would sell their mother to keep power. So what happens then ? It wouldn't be just a constitutional crisis, it would be democracy in America, on the line.

[Duppers]

44. Exactly.

[Nitram]

42. The noose is tightening, the wheels of Justice are turning.

[Stonepounder]

43. Bear in mind that the White Counsel is NOT a lawyer for the President.

The Office of White House Counsel advises the President, the Executive Office of the President, and the White House staff on legal issues pertaining to the President and the White House. It is often said that the office sits at the intersection of law, policy, and politics.

[bucolic_frolic]

45. If there's anything the legal and law enforcement community are taught to do

it is put in writing, keep a record, document everything.

You ain't got paper, you ain't got nothing.

[DeminPennswoods]

46. McGahn worked as both a political and private atty

He was a Bush appointee to the FEC and served under both Bush and Obama. He knows the value of writing keeping contemporaneous memos of what happened when and that you never know when those documents will prove useful.