If you need more than one shot

[Aerows]

you obviously haven't been paying attention in firearms class.

But some of you think it's necessary to have a 100 round magazine.

Discuss.

[Vincardog]

1. I like loading my semi-auto when I go shooting. It is a lot more fun.

[Tx4obama]

2. A typical .38 revolver holds six rounds - that is more than enough to shoot an intruder.

Folks do not need an assault weapon to hunt a deer or shoot a home invader.

In my opinion assault weapons and 100 round magazines should be banned.

[pipoman]

4. Please define "assault weapon" so we can decide

which guns will be banned.

[Panasonic]

6. automatic guns for one

machine guns, submachine guns and clips that hold more than the standard rounds.

Also, make the changing of the clips extremely difficult for pistols. All you have to do is squeeze a button and the clip comes right off.

Make it scan for biometrics and DNA coded for ammo.

Yes, think LawGiver.

[loli phabay]

8. and when you go to fire your handgun and have a stoppage you then cant get the magazine out

due to it being extremely difficult to change out, instead of a quick tap and rack and mayby dropping the mag.

[Panasonic]

22. Tough shit. Use the gun as a weapon to throw.

Be it be a bear, or a moose, or a person.

It's still a weapon even if it's disabled.

[loli phabay]

24. lol okay

[pipoman]

20. Automatic

guns have been heavily restricted since 1934, and the registry has been closed since 1984(iirc)...already done. I have no idea what this means..

"Make it scan for biometrics and DNA coded for ammo."

[Panasonic]

23. Got Netflix? Look up Judge Dredd.

[Jackpine Radical]

28. Machine guns, like sawed off shotguns & bazookas,

are already illegal. Personally, I have nothing against controlling the size of magazines.

But then I've never really envisioned using my guns for anything beyond hunting anyway.

[spin]

34. If that is your definition of "assault weapons" ...

and you are talking to a person knowledgeable about firearm terminology, you will find yourself discussing apples and oranges.

Assault weapon

Assault weapon is a term, often used by gun control advocates, typically referring to firearms "designed for rapidly firing at human targets from close range,"[1] sometimes described as military-style features useful in combat.[2]

The term was most notably used in the language of the now-expired Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act of 1994, more commonly known as the Federal Assault Weapons Ban, which expired in 2004. The federal assault weapons ban specifically prohibited 19 guns considered to be assault weapons. These were all semi-automatic firearms, meaning that they can eject spent shell casings and chamber the next bullet without human action, but (as opposed to automatic firearms) only one round is fired per pull of the trigger.[1] In addition to the 19 weapons specifically prohibited, the federal assault weapons ban also defined as a prohibited assault weapon any semiautomatic rifle with a detachable magazine and at least two of the following five items: a folding or telescopic stock, a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, a bayonet mount, and a flash suppressor or threaded barrel (a barrel that can accommodate a flash suppressor); or a grenade launcher. The act also defined as a prohibited assault weapon semi-automatic pistols that weighed more than 50 ounces when unloaded or included a barrel shroud, and barred the manufacture of magazines capable of carrying more than 10 rounds.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon

It is easy to confuse an "assault weapon" with an assault rifle.

Assault rifle

An assault rifle is an automatic rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.[1] Assault rifles are the standard infantry weapons in most modern armies. Assault rifles are categorized in between light machine guns, which are intended more for sustained automatic fire in a light support role, and submachine guns, which fire a pistol cartridge rather than a rifle cartridge.

***snip***

The translation assault rifle gradually became the common term for similar firearms sharing the same technical definition as the StG 44. In a strict definition, a firearm must have at least the following characteristics to be considered an assault rifle:[4][5][6]

It must be an individual weapon with provision to fire from the shoulder (i.e. a buttstock);
It must be capable of selective fire;
It must have an intermediate-power cartridge: more power than a pistol but less than a standard rifle or battle rifle;
Its ammunition must be supplied from a detachable magazine rather than a feed-belt.
And it should at least have a firing range of 300 meters (1000 feet)

Rifles that meet most of these criteria, but not all, are technically not assault rifles despite frequently being considered as such. For example, semi-automatic-only rifles like the AR-15 (which the M16 rifle is based on) that share designs with assault rifles are not assault rifles, as they are not capable of switching to automatic fire and thus are not selective fire capable. Belt-fed weapons or rifles with fixed magazines are likewise not assault rifles because they do not have detachable box magazines.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle

[4th law of robotics]

41. Automatics are intensely regulated in this country

and legal ones account for basically no crimes.

Nor was the shooter in CO using an automatic.

Make it scan for biometrics and DNA coded for ammo.

So . . . become a futuristic police state . . . in order to be safe.

[Tx4obama]

7. Go to Google.com and do an image search for 'assault weapons' n/t

[pipoman]

18. So the legislation should say if a gun appears

in google images it is banned?

[TheKentuckian]

30. The image is meaningless. What functions and calibers are you looking to restrict?

I honestly could give a shit about 100 round cans of ammo but at the same time realize that banning them is essentially pointless and when that comes out in the wash, we'll be right back here having the same conversation so it is pointless to throw the anti-gun folks a bone because such will not satisfy.

Any concession is just an incremental step toward the real goal of banning semi-automatic weapons and I figure we may as well hash that out now rather than playing the drip...drip...drip game and cede the frame.

[Aerows]

5. Exactly my point, Tx4Obama

You highlighted the reasons plainly. Thank you

[loli phabay]

3. uh, were are you taught that you only fire one shot

if its self defence you fire until the aggression is stopped, regardless if its one round or 15, hunting usualy its one shot but there are times when a second shot is needed.

[Tsiyu]

9. Do you think you'll ever need 100 rounds to fend off intruders

barring the Zombie Apocolypse, of course?

To my way of thinking, if it gets to the point where you'd have to fend off a horde like that, guns may only be a temporary fix.

But those who want to wage war against our government - and they are abundant with their spew on the intertubes - really want those 100-round mags. It will make shooting their local police force and all the librulls in town pretty damned easy.

Then they plan to take over the World.

Don't you mess with their ammo! It ain't about self defense, it's about overthrowing this nation's government.

[loli phabay]

10. you know something i dont know if i would ever need a hundred rounds i hope not

but i may need to use a whole clip and maybe have to reload, you never know, its the same with my fire extinguishers, is one enough or should i have 50. I have thousands of rounds for my weapons as i buy when i get a good deal, i also fire thousands of rounds whether it hunting varmint control or letting my kids practice.

[Tsiyu]

11. I'm talking as in what Holmes used

If you need a 100 round mag for self defense, it may be a lost cause.

The fact is, it's just another toy for some, but for the criminally minded, and those who do seriously want to overthrow this "illegitimate gubbmint" ( as they see it ) those 100 round mags are mighty tasty.

And I believe that unless and until we get serious about providing comprehensive mental health services here in America, we are going to have to do something.

My prediction is we will do nothing. I have no illusions. But I also predict reality will force us in the near future to act. I believe we will see so many mass shootings that even some staunch gun psychos will have a change of heart.

Stupid isn't always permanent

[loli phabay]

13. personally id rather have 10 30 round mags, i can change them pretty quick plus if i get a jam

its much easier to clear and i dont mind droppijg a mag if need be. a Hundred round mag would be fun at the range but in a life or death situation id still rather have the 30 and some spare.

[Tsiyu]

15. Yeah, smaller mags jam, too

but the time it takes to change mags can mean a lot in a mass shooting. I believe it meant less loss of life in the Gifford's shooting.

( BTW the rightwing psychos think that was all staged, too )

[loli phabay]

16. depends on the shooter, i am pretty much reloading as im firing the last rounds from my mag

regardless if its my pistol or a 5.56. Proficiency is what makes a difference in speed. a jam in a 100 round magazine afte 2 rounds means effectively you have 97 useless round for this phase of the fight, hence why i prefer 30 round mags.

[Kaleva]

12. Is that from "The Barney Fife School of Good Shooting"?

[Johnny Rico]

14. Most pistols used by police hold 15 to 17 shots.

Should they use single shot handguns instead?

[loli phabay]

17. unless we are talking issued rpgs i would say no.

[Aerows]

27. You are a big fan of the 100 round mag

Just how bad of a shot are you that you need 100 to take out a target?

[Johnny Rico]

35. I'm a big fan of allowing people to purchase any weapon accessory they wish.

I wouldn't purchase a 100 round magazine myself, because they have to tendency to jam.

All the magazines for my AR-15 are standard capacity, holding 26 rounds each (not 30, because my AR shoots the larger 6.8 SPC round).

[justiceischeap]

36. Police used to use 6-shot revolvers

they also used to be able to patrol without wearing bullet proof vests but as the criminals got better weaponry, so too did the police have to better arm themselves. It's a vicious cycle.

I think part of the reason are police are looking more like the military is because people can LEGALLY purchase weapons of MASS carnage... they can purchase tactical gear to protect themselves against the police or anyone else trying to defend themselves, they can apparently purchase tear gas. So, please don't bring the police into this discussion and what they carry to defend themselves in this country.

[Go Vols]

19. lol

You advocate "one shot" per trigger pull?

I will go along with that.

[Aerows]

25. Yes, I do

And if I need more than about six bullets, I'd be a horrible shot.

I wonder what these folks are shooting at if they need that damn much ammo. It certainly isn't hunting.

[obamanut2012]

29. We already have one bullet per pull -- that's a semi automatic

[4th law of robotics]

21. Do you believe it is possible to use a firearm in self-defence?

Do you believe it is possible that 2 or more people may wish to harm you at the same time?

If yes for both of those do you think it would be possible to get them to line up once you bring out your single shot weapon so you don't have to reload as they cave your head in with a baseball bat?

[Aerows]

26. If you need that damn much ammunition

you aren't going to hit the broad side of a barn anyway, and don't need to be anywhere near a gun with such shitty aim.

[TheKentuckian]

31. Yeah, any more than one shot indicates dangerously poor skill

The silly premise of the thread was one shot. I assure you that is silly.

[Lizzie Poppet]

38. Even the world's most expert shooters sometimes miss.

Watch video from an IPSC match on YouTube sometimes. This type of competition (more-or-less) resembles pistol shooting in a combat or defensive situation. At the highest levels, these shooters' skill is mind-boggling.

Sometimes they miss.

[4th law of robotics]

39. Being unable to hit two separate targets with the same bullet is indicative of poor shooting skills?

Have you ever used a gun?

[Iggy]

32. NO. what is there to discuss any further?

seriously. after the VA Tech massacre not that long ago-- we apparently learned _nothing_.

christ, even knucklehead Rupert Murdoch is tweeting this is stupid and we need some
gun control of some sort.

civilians simply did not need 100 round clips/magazines. nobody hunts with this crap.

the lame argument by NRA, 'well the perp can walk in with 6 nine shot Glocks'. yes that's true.
but the other issue revealed at Aurora is movie theaters need more SECURITY. basic, professional
security guards are not expensive-- I'm talking hiring these guys for big, well publicized premiers
like the new Batman movie.

#2: the movie theater industry needs to rethink the "need" for midnight openings for big movies.
shit gets done under the cover of darkness which may not occur in broad daylight-- and security
cameras obv work better in dayight.

just my two cents

[Iggy]

33. This Makes Me ILL:

DIX, Ill. — Authorities in southern Illinois are investigating the death of a 10-year-old boy who was accidentally shot by his 7-year-old sister.

The Jefferson County Sheriff's Department says Christian Clark of Granite City was killed in a recreational vehicle in a wooded area in the community of Dix. Officials with the sheriff's office say the RV is used for hunting and is owned by the boy's grandfather. That's where the girl found the gun and accidentally fired it Saturday.

THIS unfortunately happens in our nation numerous times per year. it's sick and it's wrong.

Why the F%4& do these people leave their guns lying around where little kids can get them??!!

it has become clear to me: in America life is cheap.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-downstate-10yearold-accidentally-shot-to-death-by-7yearold-sister-20120723,0,6729789.story?track=rss

[4th law of robotics]

40. If he'd only had one bullet

would that have made a difference?

[Iggy]

42. Sorry, weak response

that is not the point... and I assume its a safe bet if one of your kids was killed at a neighbor's house
because the dumbass father left loaded handguns lying around for kids to pick up and play with, you'd be
more than pissed off about it

in your world, who is in charge? Parents or children?

[4th law of robotics]

43. Read the OP

the premise is that we should be limited to single shot weapons.

If the kid in your story had had a loaded single shot weapon would that have made a difference?

/have you noticed people on your side when confronted with facts ("ban automatics!" - a semi-automatic was used) always come back with emotional appeals? "Yeah but what if it were your kid!" well if it were my kid that wouldn't mean that a single shot limit would have made any difference. Being emotional doesn't mean you get to ignore facts.

[JustAnotherGen]

37. It only takes one bullet

Ask Trayvon Martin - he'll tell you. He is just as dead with one bullet shot point blank than if Zimmerman had hammered him 100 rounds.