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cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 05:36 PM Jan 2012

Our credibility problem

"Santorum tells NBC's "Meet the Press" that he would tell Iranian leaders that either they open up those facilities, begin to dismantle them and make them available to inspectors – or the U.S. would attack them."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/01/rick-santorum-iran-iowa-caucuses-2012-_n_1178483.html

Other nations are right to think of the US an institutional entity and observe what the US does.

What Santorum should have said was that he would tell Iranian leaders that either they open up those facilities, begin to dismantle them and make them available to inspectors – or the U.S. would attack them. And then, no matter what the inspectors did or said, we would attack them anyway.

That is our established modus operandi -- make demands and then attack anyway whether the demands are met or not. That is our recent practice in a country neighboring Iran. Iran has reason to see very little practical incentive to cooperate.

Of course Iran is developing a nuclear weapons capability. That is beside the point. The logic of the situation would be the same whether Iran was developing nukes or cotton candy... if you look at how this nation conducts itself, if we say we might attack we will attack.

The war in Afghanistan is not, or at least was not unjustified in my view. But even there we did the same thing... we made demands only in hopes that they would be refused (making us look better) knowing that we were going to attack either way. Immagine if the taliban had hand-cuffed Bin Laden on 9/12 and turned him over the the US embassy in Pakistan. Would that stop us from invading? No, and in that instance should not have. We had a legitimate short-term security interest to overturn the Taliban and round up Al Queada members in Afghanistan. (That does not argue for the next ten years of that war one way or another.)

So if we were going to invade anyway, why demand terms? Because that is just how we roll.

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Our credibility problem (Original Post) cthulu2016 Jan 2012 OP
The US gov only has one set of terms SixthSense Jan 2012 #1
So Iran is now the target? mazzarro Jan 2012 #2
In a word, yes Tansy_Gold Jan 2012 #3
. cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #4

mazzarro

(3,450 posts)
2. So Iran is now the target?
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 05:59 PM
Jan 2012

And after Iran is subjugated, an agreement will be imposed on the Palestinians regardless of their opinion? The the focus shifts to North Korea? After which it will be China? What are we aiming for - world controlled and governed by multinational corporations with the United States providing the military forces to keep people and nations in place?

Tansy_Gold

(17,857 posts)
3. In a word, yes
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 06:22 PM
Jan 2012

Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
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Yes.

A body in motion tends to remain in motion unless and until acted upon by another force.



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