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Tue Jan 2, 2018, 11:17 AM

You think the Repubs are going to try for a healthcare overhaul again?

I just wonder if the Repubs are going to try to overhaul healthcare again, given that it's an unpopular thing to do (but so was the tax bill, and that didn't stop them).

I'm guessing not, because of the midterms?

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Reply You think the Repubs are going to try for a healthcare overhaul again? (Original post)
Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 OP
Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2018 #1
Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #3
Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2018 #5
Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #6
PoliticAverse Jan 2018 #2
Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #4
titaniumsalute Jan 2018 #7
Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #8
Merlot Jan 2018 #9
Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #10
Caliman73 Jan 2018 #11

Response to Honeycombe8 (Original post)

Tue Jan 2, 2018, 11:20 AM

1. I saw somewhere

that McConnell said he is not going to try again this session. With Jones now seated, the chances of a greater healthcare overhaul via reconciliation are slimmer to nonexistent now. Of course, we shouldn't think about letting our guard down now. They were able to pull together on the tax scam and dealt a blow to ACA by repealing the Individual Mandate, so...........

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 2, 2018, 11:27 AM

3. I hope you're right.

But now that they know what it takes to get Collins and Makursky on board, and if McCain has to leave the Senate because of his illness and is replaced by appointment...it's possible to pull it off.

Still, I think it would be very difficult. Actually repealing the mandate took away some incentive for the politicians to risk their popularity on a healthcare bill.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 2, 2018, 11:32 AM

5. They got their pound of flesh with the mandate repeal

Hopefully, that will be enough for them. I'm still shocked that McConnell was able to get Collins and Murkowski to agree with repealing the Individual Mandate, as they also refused to vote for the "Skinny Repeal". Of course, what McConnell "promised" Collins for her vote doesn't seem like it's going to happen either but apparently she was satisfied enough with his promise....for some reason.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 2, 2018, 11:34 AM

6. +1. nt

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Original post)

Tue Jan 2, 2018, 11:21 AM

2. Well they already partially did with the tax bill, which eliminated the ACA's individual mandate

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 2, 2018, 11:29 AM

4. Yes, I know about that. We'll have to see what consequence that has.

It happened at end of the year, after everyone had signed up. Once you sign up for a subsidy, it's impossible to cancel, I think. But not sure.

We may not see the effects of that until next year. (Unless, of course, a Democratic Congress reinstates it. )

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Original post)

Tue Jan 2, 2018, 11:39 AM

7. Not this year...too political

I think you will hear McConnell and Trumpster spinning "bi-partisanship" all year.

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Response to titaniumsalute (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 2, 2018, 11:40 AM

8. Makes sense. nt

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Original post)

Tue Jan 2, 2018, 12:55 PM

9. "overhaul" is the wrong word, it will be "destruction"

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Response to Merlot (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 2, 2018, 07:04 PM

10. Oh, well, yes...that's correctomundo. I was using THEIR word, which is usu. opposite of what is.nt

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Original post)

Tue Jan 2, 2018, 07:20 PM

11. Probably not.

Likely with the repeal of the mandate, the market places will collapse once the young healthy people no longer have to get insurance and the ACA will collapse in a matter of time.

Ryan was gearing up for "Entitlement Reform" and though McConnell will not likely want to do anything like that, this was going to be the new way to make sure that the wealthy people's money was there for them. Remember that they wanted to repeal ACA not only because it undoes President Obama's legacy, but to strip out the money from Medicaid and Medicare that helped to fund a good chunk of the ACA. They are looking to mess with Social Security too in order to access the money that is supposedly in the trust. They want every last public dollar so that they can redistribute to the wealthy.

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