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Scott Dworkin: "Trump just called the Department of Justice the Deep State Justice Dept. (Original Post) triron Jan 2018 OP
Trump is more than "unwell". TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #1
Dude's Not Helping Himself There, MineralMan Jan 2018 #2
If we thought the violence the deplorables would have committed if Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #27
Trump' paranoia is increasing daily. Sociopathy or psychosis? Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #3
well tRump bdamomma Jan 2018 #32
Yes, he is in a closed feedback loop of his own making. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #42
Wow, nothing he says surprises me. However, SummerSnow Jan 2018 #4
I hope Mueller take Sessions and the rest of t-rump's minions down Iliyah Jan 2018 #5
Bannon wasn't so woried about Congress impeaching... Xolodno Jan 2018 #6
All aided and abetted by Fox and RW extremist media. No evil is too much for them to support. Fred Sanders Jan 2018 #7
Parroting Fox news sarcasmo Jan 2018 #8
They all must gibraltar72 Jan 2018 #9
Birtherism 2.0, completely crazy with extra paranoia. L. Coyote Jan 2018 #10
as much as I hate Trump ProfessorPlum Jan 2018 #11
No, he is unmistakably calling the Justice Department "Deep State." SunSeeker Jan 2018 #13
you are probably right ProfessorPlum Jan 2018 #19
WE need to remember, Trump doesnt know what "deep state" even means, Bannon told him Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #30
the deplorables bdamomma Jan 2018 #34
No, they arent the majority of the population but they almost ALL vote and it is my Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #36
but when they see they bdamomma Jan 2018 #41
40%? ProfessorGAC Jan 2018 #47
What I am saying is 35% of the population as you say but the percentage of VOTERS Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #48
Yeah, That Makes Sense ProfessorGAC Jan 2018 #49
Context does not seem to support this but who knows. triron Jan 2018 #14
ICBW, but I think you're mistaken. dchill Jan 2018 #39
I'm still hoping he'll have a complete mental breakdown IronLionZion Jan 2018 #12
How would anyone know? Bob Loblaw Jan 2018 #28
When he outsources our FBI and Justice dept to the Russians IronLionZion Jan 2018 #31
Why would he outsource jobs Bob Loblaw Jan 2018 #37
Sickening. SunSeeker Jan 2018 #15
K&R Scurrilous Jan 2018 #16
Trump will have a medical exam at Walter Reed next year. infullview Jan 2018 #17
I don't think that exam checks for mental illness NastyRiffraff Jan 2018 #21
Why is he whining about the Justice Department? rusty fender Jan 2018 #18
This is very dangerous. Please take it seriously, one and all. pangaia Jan 2018 #20
That asshole tRumputin's ... LenaBaby61 Jan 2018 #22
Isn't the Justice Department run by his own appointees? oberliner Jan 2018 #23
If Trump doesn't like it, They_Live Jan 2018 #24
he should he loves bdamomma Jan 2018 #38
Didn't Nixon start getting paranoid like this, too? C Moon Jan 2018 #25
Not quite as bad as this, and not as publicly, but yes. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #26
Great. Thanks! C Moon Jan 2018 #29
Yes, the repeat bdamomma Jan 2018 #40
As opposed to the Trumsky Loyalty Pledged Department of Justice. dchill Jan 2018 #33
Is he reading the Intercept now? (nt) ehrnst Jan 2018 #35
He is desperately trying to muddy the waters in any which way he can. n/t Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #43
yes desperation is wht it's about triron Jan 2018 #44
How can anyone think that there is a Democratic party controlled "deep state"? LiberalLovinLug Jan 2018 #45
........... Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2018 #46

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
27. If we thought the violence the deplorables would have committed if
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 03:12 PM
Jan 2018

the KGB hadnt stolen the election was bad, imagine what it will be like if and when justice is served.

Like I keep saying, too bad he isnt a Democrat, both parties would have impeached him his 2nd day in office on the emoluments clause.

Irish_Dem

(46,496 posts)
3. Trump' paranoia is increasing daily. Sociopathy or psychosis?
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 01:18 PM
Jan 2018

If it is just a ploy, and he knows this stuff is not true, then his sociopathy is becoming more
and more apparent.

If he actually believes this stuff, then his psychosis is become more evident.

Either way, not a good situation.

Irish_Dem

(46,496 posts)
42. Yes, he is in a closed feedback loop of his own making.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 04:04 PM
Jan 2018

He is not capable of gathering the facts in any situation and making
an independent decision.

He listens to propoganda and believes it.
Or uses it to further his own agenda.
And his staff play the game with him, telling him what he wants to hear.
To avoid his temper tantrums.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
4. Wow, nothing he says surprises me. However,
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 01:18 PM
Jan 2018

all he is doing is making it really bad for him if he fires Mueller. This statement along with the other statements is screaming 'obstruction'. It's driving him bats (no offense to bats) that he can't do what he wants to do.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
5. I hope Mueller take Sessions and the rest of t-rump's minions down
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 01:25 PM
Jan 2018

as well. Blood slowing leaking in t-rump's waters. Let the sharks begin.

Xolodno

(6,384 posts)
6. Bannon wasn't so woried about Congress impeaching...
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 01:28 PM
Jan 2018

...Dump as he was worried more about the 25th Amendment. Really beginning to fully understand that sentiment.

ProfessorPlum

(11,253 posts)
11. as much as I hate Trump
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 01:56 PM
Jan 2018

and think he is a conspiracy theorist, I think Dworkin's reading of Trumps' tweet is a punctuation issue.

Here's Trump's original tweet, which is as incoherent as can be

Crooked Hillary Clinton’s top aid, Huma Abedin, has been accused of disregarding basic security protocols. She put Classified Passwords into the hands of foreign agents. Remember sailors pictures on submarine? Jail! Deep State Justice Dept must finally act? Also on Comey & others



reading the tea leaves, I think he meant to write something like "Jail! Deep State! Justice Dept must finally act"

so that "Deep State" is a noun, not an adjective on Justice Dept.

But then, here we are trying to parse the ramblings of a madman.

SunSeeker

(51,512 posts)
13. No, he is unmistakably calling the Justice Department "Deep State."
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 02:09 PM
Jan 2018

Trump knows how to use exclamation points. He does it often. He is not accusing Huma of being Deep State. He is accusing the Justice Department of being Deep State.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
30. WE need to remember, Trump doesnt know what "deep state" even means, Bannon told him
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 03:15 PM
Jan 2018

about it but he isnt bright enough nor mentally hinged enough to remember or understand it.

What he KNOWS is the phrase gets him traction with the deplorables.

BTW,. if the deplorables would become patriots, we could solve the trump and GOP problem almost overnight.

bdamomma

(63,799 posts)
34. the deplorables
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 03:23 PM
Jan 2018

are not the majority of people, they are in their own deep misery. No use to even reason with them. Oh silly me, who pays attention to fact/truth. I hope all that hate they consume will consume them.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
36. No, they arent the majority of the population but they almost ALL vote and it is my
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 03:24 PM
Jan 2018

belief that 4 out of 10 voters in November will be deplorables, more or less.

bdamomma

(63,799 posts)
41. but when they see they
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 03:30 PM
Jan 2018

have no healthcare any more will that deter them???? and whatever else the GOP takes away from the American people will that wake them up????

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
47. 40%?
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 06:26 PM
Jan 2018

Seems too high, Eliot.
There are still the disaffected and the fooled.
And I would guess it's a third, a third, & a third of the 36% who approve.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
48. What I am saying is 35% of the population as you say but the percentage of VOTERS
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 06:28 PM
Jan 2018

they are higher than that.

Deplorables vote, especially compared to liberals.


ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
49. Yeah, That Makes Sense
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:24 AM
Jan 2018

But, i still think that a decent percentage of those are the "what was i thinking" crowd, and others were the "i always vote republican" but very well might be turned off by this idiot.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
12. I'm still hoping he'll have a complete mental breakdown
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 02:06 PM
Jan 2018


Although it's good to have a delusional dipshit to run against. This can help Dems retake both houses of Congress in 2018 and some state legislatures.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
31. When he outsources our FBI and Justice dept to the Russians
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 03:16 PM
Jan 2018

and maybe even the intelligence agencies too

Bob Loblaw

(1,900 posts)
37. Why would he outsource jobs
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 03:25 PM
Jan 2018

he's probably trying to eliminate altogether?

Just not sure anyone could identify a tipping point for a breakdown when he's so mentally challenged already.

infullview

(978 posts)
17. Trump will have a medical exam at Walter Reed next year.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 02:17 PM
Jan 2018

Can you say set up for triggering the 25th amendment?

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
21. I don't think that exam checks for mental illness
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 02:31 PM
Jan 2018

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's only a physical exam. Mental fitness SHOULD be a part of it, but it's not.

LenaBaby61

(6,972 posts)
22. That asshole tRumputin's ...
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 02:40 PM
Jan 2018

Continual trashing of the FBI is making for a dangerous situation, where you'll have people rioting in the streets and God knows what else if he has to leave office--even if for medical reasons--his crazy base and folks like them will STILL say that he was forced to leave by the "Deep State."

They_Live

(3,224 posts)
24. If Trump doesn't like it,
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 02:44 PM
Jan 2018

maybe he should move to Russia. Y'know, instead of reinventing it over here.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,587 posts)
26. Not quite as bad as this, and not as publicly, but yes.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 03:07 PM
Jan 2018

He was paranoid to start out with; that's why Watergate happened in the first place. Although it hasn't been proved that Nixon ordered the break-in, he was very paranoid long before that time about who might be out to "get" him. (Spying on the DNC was completely unnecessary because it was apparent that Nixon was likely to win the 1972 election anyhow.) And it only got worse from there.

bdamomma

(63,799 posts)
40. Yes, the repeat
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 03:27 PM
Jan 2018

of All the Presidents Men Revisited was on last night on MSNBC. Nixon was his own worst enemy too.

dchill

(38,442 posts)
33. As opposed to the Trumsky Loyalty Pledged Department of Justice.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 03:21 PM
Jan 2018

No Democrats allowed. That includes FBI and reporters covering the TLPDOJ.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
45. How can anyone think that there is a Democratic party controlled "deep state"?
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 04:31 PM
Jan 2018

When all branches of government are in control of the Reich Wing? If that actually were the case, even after 8 years of Republicans in control of everything BUT the Presidency, and trying everything they can to stop Obama, then they are more inept that even I thought. They could spend endless money and time for multiple Benghazi investigations, but can't stop Democrats, with no political power left, from carrying out their nefarious secret plans. Is it some dark secret Marvel comics force like Agents of SHIELD? They fly around in a cloakable high tech plane all over America spreading their liberal propaganda?

Gawd I hope so

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