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RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 04:54 PM Jan 2018

Malcolm Nance - how Russia used Jill Stein (new info)

I am a HUGE fan of Malcolm's -- in fact, I can't think of many people who are as high, let alone higher on my list. This is a 18 minute video, but IMO it's worth it because Nance goes into more info about Russia's strategy and tactics, in this case how they included Jill Stein. And who ELSE was at that table with Stein, Flynn, Putin, etc. (You'll be surprised.) Anyway, watch it when you can spare 18 minutes. It covers other stuff too, but those topics are the reason i'm posting it here at DU.

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Malcolm Nance - how Russia used Jill Stein (new info) (Original Post) RandomAccess Jan 2018 OP
For those of us with limited bandwidth... cilla4progress Jan 2018 #1
Basically that blogslut Jan 2018 #9
Sounds just like Charles Manson's Healter Skelter proposal. NBachers Jan 2018 #16
Do you mean Charles Manson? lunatica Jan 2018 #17
The infamous dinner table with labels Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #20
Great rundown. FarPoint Jan 2018 #2
+1 Me. Jan 2018 #3
I concur about Malcolm Nance... I am also a fan... Raster Jan 2018 #4
And he always has such GREAT insights, analysis and info RandomAccess Jan 2018 #5
Yes he does! Raster Jan 2018 #7
I have a great deal of respect of Malcom Nance Gothmog Jan 2018 #6
K&R Scurrilous Jan 2018 #8
bookmarked barbtries Jan 2018 #10
Wow! Thank you for posting this. skylucy Jan 2018 #11
Read Malcolm's book "The Plot to Hack.." triron Jan 2018 #12
KICK! TY, RA Cha Jan 2018 #13
I love Malcom Nance geardaddy Jan 2018 #14
Good stuff...Thanks for posting! n/t. whathehell Jan 2018 #15
KnR for Malcolm Nance Hekate Jan 2018 #18
I didn't think my opinion of Sarandon could sink any lower... I was wrong! NurseJackie Jan 2018 #19
High quality stuff. They are running the government like Enoki33 Jan 2018 #21
Did the Russians use Stein, or did Stein use the Russians? Jim Lane Jan 2018 #22
kick for visibility triron Jan 2018 #23
kick for visibility triron Jan 2018 #24

blogslut

(37,985 posts)
9. Basically that
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 05:25 PM
Jan 2018

...Stein is a 'fellow traveler' (sympathetic to the Russian cause) and that she believed that the Democratic party would fracture and the Greens would rise from its ashes as the leading party.

Also I think he said Assange's father was at that Russian dinner table? Not sure I heard that well enough.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
4. I concur about Malcolm Nance... I am also a fan...
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 04:59 PM
Jan 2018

...The man is a PATRIOT and was one of the first to see Putin's nefarious game.

triron

(21,984 posts)
12. Read Malcolm's book "The Plot to Hack.."
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 05:32 PM
Jan 2018

So these additional revelations are extremely interesting to say the least.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
19. I didn't think my opinion of Sarandon could sink any lower... I was wrong!
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 07:19 PM
Jan 2018

Clueless, gullible, hypocritical, AND poor judgement to-boot!

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. Just LOOK at how giddy and animated she is she can barely contain her excitement about the thought of a Trump administration and at the horrors that await us.



Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
21. High quality stuff. They are running the government like
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 08:38 PM
Jan 2018

the mafia and answering to Putin” is one of the many truths. Thanks.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
22. Did the Russians use Stein, or did Stein use the Russians?
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 10:37 PM
Jan 2018

Obviously, it ran both ways. The Russians wanted to peel votes away from Clinton. Persuading progressives to vote for Trump or not to vote at all would be difficult, so it was helpful to the Russians that the Green Party was on the ballot in most states.

For Stein’s part, she as a candidate naturally wanted to get as many votes as possible. We didn’t want her to get votes, but it wasn’t improper for her to pursue them. I don’t know whether she knew that the Russians would mount a social-media operation on her behalf. As I understand the facts, the result, regardless of her level of knowledge, was that her candidacy was supported by resources that the Green Party, by itself, wouldn’t have been able to muster.

There were common interests. Is that a basis for reviving the old right-wing smear of “fellow traveler”, as Nance does in this clip? Seriously, I don’t think I’ve heard that phrase in decades, except maybe as a joke. As Wikipedia states, during the McCarthy/HUAC era it was an accusation leveled at those suspected of “promoting 'un-American' ideals, e.g. civil liberties, racial equality, opposition to book censorship, public health services, vaccination, mental health-care services and fluoridation, which were believed to be Communist plots to subvert U.S. society."

I admit, it probably served the USSR’s interest in the 1950s for leftists to point out that, for example, blacks were being lynched. The Communists used such statements to undercut this country’s claim to be a shining beacon of freedom and democracy. What the left should have learned from those dark days was that the mere fact that something helps the Kremlin doesn’t make it wrong.

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