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Tue Jan 2, 2018, 09:27 PM

The East Coast Is About To Get Hit by a Bomb Cyclone

The East Coast Is About To Get Hit by a “Bomb Cyclone”

Much of the eastern United States has been assaulted by brutally cold temperatures over the last week. New Year’s Eve revelers in New York City rang in 2018 in 9-degree weather—the coldest midnight temperature since 1907.

On Tuesday, the Washington Post reported that a “bomb cyclone” is expected to batter the East Coast later this week. A weather system only earns that name by dropping in pressure rapidly—at least 24 millibars over 24 hours—in a process called bombogenesis. Winds could kick up to 55 mph just off the coast of New England, a prospect that has prompted local weather stations to warn of hurricane-force winds.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/948255400851378176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Finstant-articles%2F

In Boston, which is no stranger to cold weather and has suffered through brutally low temperatures this past week, the National Weather Service forecasts near-blizzard conditions, with just a quarter-mile of visibility.

https://mobile.twitter.com/NWSBoston/status/948302100852871170/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Finstant-articles%2F

But the snow won’t be limited to northern states. As far south as Georgia and Florida, forecasters are calling for potentially dangerous winter weather, with several inches of snow in some areas. 

https://mobile.twitter.com/NWSJacksonville/status/948311098595344384/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Finstant-articles%2F

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2018/01/the-east-coast-is-about-to-get-hit-by-a-bomb-cyclone/

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Reply The East Coast Is About To Get Hit by a Bomb Cyclone (Original post)
EarthFirst Jan 2018 OP
applegrove Jan 2018 #1
blaze Jan 2018 #9
applegrove Jan 2018 #24
customerserviceguy Jan 2018 #2
customerserviceguy Jan 2018 #3
maxrandb Jan 2018 #6
customerserviceguy Jan 2018 #29
maxrandb Jan 2018 #36
maxrandb Jan 2018 #37
mitch96 Jan 2018 #26
Gabi Hayes Jan 2018 #4
dixiegrrrrl Jan 2018 #5
Blue_Adept Jan 2018 #7
blaze Jan 2018 #8
Blue_Adept Jan 2018 #10
blaze Jan 2018 #11
Blue_Adept Jan 2018 #13
blaze Jan 2018 #17
Blue_Adept Jan 2018 #18
blaze Jan 2018 #21
dixiegrrrrl Jan 2018 #23
Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #30
Hortensis Jan 2018 #12
malaise Jan 2018 #14
Blue_Adept Jan 2018 #19
malaise Jan 2018 #20
GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #25
malaise Jan 2018 #27
Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #31
BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #32
Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #33
BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #34
Hortensis Jan 2018 #15
jpak Jan 2018 #16
snooper2 Jan 2018 #22
suffragette Jan 2018 #28
Atman Jan 2018 #35

Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Tue Jan 2, 2018, 09:30 PM

1. So cold in Ottawa my landlords emailed us and pointed out that if we leave

a window open to regulate the heat, as people in old buildings sometimes do, the radiators could shatter and steam would be released. That is how cold it is. I'm hibernating this week.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:15 AM

9. My friend in Indiana had a window crack because of the cold

Sliding door window with a heat vent along the floor.

She now knows to divert that warm air away from the window.

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Response to blaze (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 03:16 PM

24. Never heard of it before. Freaky cold!

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 12:32 AM

2. Friends in NY have told me

that when they dropped the ball on New Year's Eve, it went right back up again!

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 12:34 AM

3. "Bombogenesis"

Sounds like a good name for a variety of happy herb.

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 08:51 AM

6. Or a great name for a Rock Band n/t

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Response to maxrandb (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:32 PM

29. OK, how about this?

Smokin' a bowl of the weed I described, while listening to an album from the band you described?!!

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #29)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:27 PM

36. Far out Man

My mind just blew

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #29)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:29 PM

37. That would be Bombogenesis Inebriation

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 03:55 PM

26. I love that word....

Creation of a pressure dropping atmospheric event that intensifies a storm:
The dropping of at least 24 millibars over 24 hours.......cue the whistle........ boom!!
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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 02:04 AM

5. "hurricane-force winds" have to be at least 72 mph.

Which is a Cat. 1 on the hurricane scale.

But 50 mph winds in this cold are pretty anxiety provoking.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:09 AM

7. Local news here in Boston is reporting there'll be 70+mph winds over the course of the storm

Hence it getting the designation.

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Response to Blue_Adept (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:12 AM

8. Holy crap!

Any talk about shutting down school and/or businesses?

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Response to blaze (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:26 AM

10. Not yet but it's a given. The Boston/coastal area is tagged at 10-15" of snow

Going a bit west into the state and it hits a 6-10 range. School buses have been bad enough this week already with the cold in lots of them not starting. In my town, half the buses didn't make it to pick any of the kids up yesterday because they wouldn't start, and the outsourced bus company didn't let the town know quickly enough to try and get in touch with parents. Turned into quite the mess.

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Response to Blue_Adept (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:32 AM

11. One year our school district was caught off guard

and did *not* call a snow day. (I never envy the folks who have to make that call)

Snow fall was more than anticipated and kids were already at the bus stops and buses were having LOTS of problems. Principals (among others) were out driving the routes trying to pick up the kids.

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Response to blaze (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:41 AM

13. Yup, it's a hard call when there are so many factors

I generally take the decision about it out of the school's hands in regards to my own kids and what i feel will be safe. One of mine takes the bus and the other I drive since they're in different schools and it comes down to:

"Would my child be safe walking to school in this now/later." and the same with the bus.

I had a principal give me grief about it once but said that the choice is mine whether I should risk their lives on buses that are not run by the school district but rather outsourced and has a primary focus on their owners/profitability over safety of students. I will make that call, not them. Always had some fun run-ins with bus related issues over the years with horrible locations picked for stops and all that. I made the case at one point that a particular stop was terrible because years earlier we had a car crash right into that spot on the corner and in the winter it's extra dangerous. They refused to change it so I made the request to the local PD that they should have someone there to watch the area because of how dangerous it is. Suffice to say, the cops backed me on that because they had safety studies that showed it was not a safe location and there were numerous accidents throughout the day over the years there.

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Response to Blue_Adept (Reply #13)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:50 AM

17. I took the decision out of a boss's hands one year

She was not happy.

But the local PD was urging businesses to close down and send their employees home. We were not, in any form, an "essential" business and I was scared about getting home. So I went.

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Response to blaze (Reply #17)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:55 AM

18. Exactly! Bosses be like...







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Response to Blue_Adept (Reply #18)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:01 AM

21. Hahaha!!!! Thanks for those! nt

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Response to Blue_Adept (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 12:30 PM

23. Good lord....

A winter cane, then.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:41 PM

30. Actually, ... the storm will bring warmth, for a couple of days.


It basically takes warm air from the Gulf or Gulf Stream to generate large amounts of precipitation.

There are cooler storms from the Pacific but they are kind of wrung out by time they make it East.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:39 AM

12. This sounds like it may kill a lot of nice shrubs and trees

over large areas. If there were some great new technology start-up for taking down millions of trees dying each year from climate change I'd invest in it, but any good company positioning to serve that market will probably do well.

We're in central Florida, and the winter storm advisories extend all the way down to our area. Hopefully, one nice young loquat that's at least growing under the shelter of an old live oak will do okay, even if the other out in the open doesn't. Whatever can't take the extreme weather events due to a weaker jet stream will be replaced with something hardier--heat, drought, deluge, and cold hardier.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:41 AM

14. That's a really stupid and sensational headline

They can warn about serious weather without the fugging fear-mongering bomb shit.

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Response to malaise (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:56 AM

19. Except that's what it's actually called

It used to simply be that forecasters kept the verbiage very simple for simpleminded folk.

Now they're using more detailed and accurate terms that have been in their lexicon for decades that accurately describes what's going on.

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Response to Blue_Adept (Reply #19)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:58 AM

20. Maybe I should stick to Atlantic hurricanes

Never heard the term before

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Response to malaise (Reply #20)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 03:49 PM

25. Actually learned today on NPR

That a bombagenesis hurricane is a real thing. A storm that increases in intensity at a phenomenal rate. I have lived in hurricane country most of my life and never heard that.

Who knew

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #25)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 03:57 PM

27. Read it on Weather Underground earlier today

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Response to Blue_Adept (Reply #19)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:46 PM

31. Except it is not.


TV forecasters are lackeys of corporate media so they have to hype it with "bomb" shit.

The more detailed and accurate term is "explosive cyclogenesis", though some meteorologists have used the simpleminded term as a short-hand.

"bomb" is seized upon by sensationalists who feel that mere facts are not enough.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #31)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:49 PM

32. THIS EXACTLY

No meteorologist calls this phenomena (rapidly intensifying low pressure system) a "bomb cyclone".

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #32)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:52 PM

33. Well some TV forecasters style themselves as "meteorologists" because they got a technical degree.


Almost all TV "meteorologists" are technicians at best.

It's not as if they actually do studies and develop models of mechanisms that end up improving weather system computer simulation programs.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #33)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:59 PM

34. There is a whole academic track for "broadcast meteorology"

With all the tech available now, it's easier for them to throw together a forecast that tends to be "general public oriented" vs "technical" per their station masters.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:44 AM

15. Btw, it's named "winter storm Grayson," useful for

googling stories using that term. Part of I-10 in north Florida was closed this morning because of ice from Grayson. Shutting down for a little ice'd be a joke farther north, of course.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:45 AM

16. It's tracking farther west than earlier models

Eastern Maine has a Blizzard Warning in effect for tomorrow morning.

Power outages are going to be lethal in these temps.

I hope everyone takes this seriously.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 11:33 AM

22. bombogenesis sounded like a made-up word, and is...Wiki shows Explosive cyclogenesis

 

Sounds much cooler


Explosive cyclogenesis (also referred to as a weather bomb,[1][2][3] meteorological bomb,[4] explosive development,[1] or bombogenesis[5][6][7]) refers in a strict sense to a rapidly deepening extratropical cyclonic low-pressure area. To enter this category, the central pressure of a depression at 60° latitude is required to decrease by 24 mb (hPa) or more in 24 hours.[8][9]

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 04:07 PM

28. Scary weather. Be well DUers and maybe check

On neighbors now to help them stock up for storm.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:09 PM

35. Got wood, liquor, beer, water...

We live on a lake in CT. Usually we just scoop out water if the power goes out (well) . But it’s frozen solid after a week of sub-freezing temps. I’m stocked up for this one. It’s only going to be a day or two, but then we get -11 for the weekend. Why do I live here?

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