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TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:09 AM Jan 2018

I know this is incredibly shallow

but I think it speaks to a bigger mindset.

Do you think when Trump, Alex Jones, or Rush Limbaugh ( who are so quick to insult the appearance of others especially women) look in the mirror they see an attractive person there??? They are bloated and physically unattractive.

I am pretty sure Steve Bannon has not seen a mirror in years.

I told you it was shallow but saw a headline where Alex Jones called Carrie Fisher "an old lizard" and thought what does he see in the mirror???

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Cicada

(4,533 posts)
2. He may literally mean old lizard for Carrie fisher
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:18 AM
Jan 2018

A lot of people believe aliens from outer space are here taking the form of humans while actually, literally lizards. These lizards have somewhat larger heads than we do. These lizards are thought to be running the world, a secret conspiracy. I am pretty sure some who believe this have been on the Alex Jones show.

nadine_mn

(3,702 posts)
3. Yes, proof was in a Dr Oz interview (at least for trump)
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:26 AM
Jan 2018

He was asked something along the lines of what does he see when he looks in the mirror and he said he saw a 30 something year old (this when he was also talking about being in his best shape ever).

It's also why he gets so angry at "unflattering" (aka unposed and unretouched) photos.

My mom has narcissistic personality disorder and when she was younger, she was absolutely stunning (she is still very attractive but at 66 she no longer looks 26) and she still thinks of herself that way. Like I'm not saying it's bad to have a positive self image, but she will send me pics of outfits to wear from catalogs clearly geared for women half her age and younger. And I know she thinks she still looks like one of those models..she just needs the right clothes, the right makeup. And gets sooooo angry when she orders stuff and doesn't look the same. She really thinks she looks like a 25 yr old model...she got Glamor Shots for her Facebook photo and spent so much time trying to get every wrinkle airbrushed out...they told her it wouldn't look natural and she flew into a pouty rage when we left. They are beautiful photos of s beautiful 60 something year old woman, but she can't reconcile her mental image of what she used to look like with reality.

Honestly...Trump has always been hideous.


Alex jones...ok this is gonna make me throw up in my mouth a little...but if you see pictures of him when he was younger he was actually a very attractive muscular (shirts off...just like today) man. So I can see where he thinks if he keeps plugging his line of vitamin/protein snake oil he'll look like that again.


Steve Bannon...to be fair...I don't think he knows what he looks like since vampires can't see their reflection.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
5. I am a 68 yo
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:33 AM
Jan 2018

white haired (pretty thin hair since chemo) woman who weighs about 40 pounds too much.

Not seeing that in the mirror would maybe be nice but it is what I see.

I wonder how someone like your mother sees others.

nadine_mn

(3,702 posts)
7. She tears down others constantly
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:42 AM
Jan 2018

She strips them of any positive attributes to make herself look better. Every female is a threat to her and every male is a potential admirer/conquest.

We could not be more opposite: she is willowy, naturally thin. I am now morbidly obese, but have always been heavy.

I started off big boned and curvy and she drummed in daily verbal abuse about my size, shamed me for developing breasts and curves, mocked every pimple, took glee in every pound I gained as an excuse to shame me publicly as often as she could. She made sure any compliment given to me by strangers, family, friends was met with a hundred criticisms. My self image is shit and I know I hide behind my weight. But she does this with everyone.

Ugh and narcs take praise of their children as a reflection on themselves which is why he surrounds himself with Ivanka and not his chinless sons.

KatyMan

(4,190 posts)
18. Only 51 here
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 01:28 PM
Jan 2018

but I think the same thing and am reminded of the Terry Pratchett line, "inside every old person is a young person wondering what happened.”

marble falls

(57,077 posts)
6. Its occurred to me. Bannon dresses like he thinks he's 'dashing'. Alex Jones doesn't even try.....
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:37 AM
Jan 2018

Limpbaugh? Like Jabba the Hut in an expensive silk shirt and a good haircut.

Just saw this, though, its the eyes:




Orrex

(63,203 posts)
8. Trump is fat and ugly and should be mocked for his ugly fatness at every opportunity
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:45 AM
Jan 2018

He should be mocked for a great many things, in fact, but his weight and appearance are certainly on the list.

Invariably, a chorus of high-minded souls will rise up to condemn such "shallow" personal attacks, to which I say "Yeah? Well at least I'm not fat and ugly like Trump."

In mocking fat Trump's ugliness, I am not making any commentary whatsoever on anyone else, and it is false to read such commentary into my observations about Trump's ugly fatness. That ugly fat fucker has openly mocked women for their weight and appearance for decades--famously fat shaming a literal beauty pageant contestant--so it is entirely appropriate and reasonable to call him out for being comically fat and ugly.

The mockery here is based on fat and ugly Trump's hypocrisy, by which he presumes to mock others for their appearance when he himself is absurdly fat and hideous. Chris Christie also has a weight issue, but he doesn't (AFAIK) mock others for their appearance, so he should not be mocked for his.

But fat and ugly Trump? I will laugh at his ridiculously grotesque hugeness until they roll his bloated corpse back into the water.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
10. Will we see an honest picture of his physical condition
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:20 AM
Jan 2018

when a real doctor examines him this month???

treestar

(82,383 posts)
14. They think only women are subject to that
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:30 AM
Jan 2018

Blatant sexists, for whom women are commodities. Much like talking about cars. Or any other consumer item.

Men are taught to be fine with their bodies no matter what. They don't feel judged on them.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
17. Alex Jones is paid to debase himself.
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 11:49 AM
Jan 2018

There are many people who would gladly take on such a sinecure. Growl, bluster and fling virtual poop, and collect a check from those who use you to fleece the rubes.

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