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monmouth4

(9,694 posts)
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 11:35 AM Jan 2018

I love this so much, thought I would share...

Since I believe 2018 is going to be the year of the WOMAN I borrowed this from some else. Credit is at the bottom...

“I got an earful today about Hillary Clinton and how she just oughta fucking move aside and you know, just kinda fade away. Fade away into the night.

No, this is not gonna be about politics.

This is gonna be about how we humans have to stop putting women of a certain age out to pasture because they didn't get the big win, or the big deal, or the big job, or put that crack in that big fucking ceiling. None of us could withstand the crazy-ass bullshit and the crazy-ass cruelty that Hillary Clinton withstood - and withstands - every single day, day in and day out. We've bashed the living shit out of her; everything from her clothes to her hair to her emotions to her staying with Bill to her emails to her book coming out too soon too early too much too little; to her walks in the park to her speaking engagements to her frostiness to her pantsuits to her being a little too worn around the edges. Well, you know what, ALL GOOD WOMEN are worn around the edges, all good women keep getting up when they're knocked down, all good women wear grace and dignity - along with their heart - on their sleeve, all good women take a step to two or three back before they rise up and push forward and move forward and keep on.

No, this isn't gonna be about politics.

You didn't have to vote for her, and you don't have to like her, but for fucks sake, when ANY woman - and I mean ANY woman - keeps getting up, keeps standing up, keeps moving forward, keeps shaking off the awful nasty vile dreck that's constantly tossed and thrown on her; when any woman keeps showing up after being spit on and shit on and mistreated - you don't ask her to fade away or move aside, you ask her if you can walk alongside her, with her.

Never ask a woman to fade away into the night.
Ask her how she manages to keep on shining on her darkest days.”

-Amy Ferris

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I love this so much, thought I would share... (Original Post) monmouth4 Jan 2018 OP
K&R northoftheborder Jan 2018 #1
Thanks for sharing Phoenix61 Jan 2018 #2
I thought so too. I hope HRC saw it along the way. monmouth4 Jan 2018 #4
K&R bdamomma Jan 2018 #3
Love this, monmouth. sheshe2 Jan 2018 #5
I love it too, hope she gets to see it. n/t monmouth4 Jan 2018 #29
Worthy. K&R! Nt Ninga Jan 2018 #6
Too Many Americans Seem to Require Someone to Hate and All Too Often It's An Older Woman dlk Jan 2018 #7
Thanks for sharing this. I admire Hillary & her accomplishments and she will always be a hero to me iluvtennis Jan 2018 #8
K&R ismnotwasm Jan 2018 #9
Absolutely. Unless... Bondor Jan 2018 #10
I wish I could rec this 1000000 times pandr32 Jan 2018 #11
beautiful. Im tearing up. I miss Hillary so much.... samnsara Jan 2018 #12
Amen to THAT! onlyadream Jan 2018 #13
+1000 (nt) ehrnst Jan 2018 #14
minngal marieo1 Jan 2018 #15
Well, she did get the most votes. And BTW... maddiemom Jan 2018 #17
Agree..n/t monmouth4 Jan 2018 #18
My own experience has already taught me how right you are about the dynamics in play. calimary Jan 2018 #38
You are so very welcome amyferris Jan 2018 #44
k&r, excellent post nt PunkinPi Jan 2018 #16
Thank you for sharing! Raster Jan 2018 #19
Bravo! Aristus Jan 2018 #20
K&R mcar Jan 2018 #21
x 1000 peggysue2 Jan 2018 #22
Yeah, this is awesome. byronius Jan 2018 #23
I hope somehow she gets to read it...n/t monmouth4 Jan 2018 #24
Problem in US. Other countries not so much. Fla Dem Jan 2018 #25
I have loved Hillary from the first day I heard about her... louis c Jan 2018 #26
THIS. calimary Jan 2018 #39
Statement of fact: if women were in charge here and everywhere else Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #27
Personally relating a little intensely at the moment BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2018 #28
confirmation from an older guy WorkDoctor Jan 2018 #30
I appreciate that. Pacifist Patriot Jan 2018 #31
Welcome to DU, WorkDoctor! calimary Jan 2018 #40
K&R. I love this. Thank you! lunamagica Jan 2018 #32
Hear, Hear! smirkymonkey Jan 2018 #33
K&R Scurrilous Jan 2018 #34
When the primary campaign began, I had a mildly negative opinion of Ms. Clinton. NNadir Jan 2018 #35
KNR Thank you! Lucinda Jan 2018 #36
Thank you all, just wish I had written it. Thank you Amy Ferris...nt monmouth4 Jan 2018 #37
Do you know Amy? newcriminal Jan 2018 #42
THANK YOU! amyferris Jan 2018 #43
welcome to DU gopiscrap Jan 2018 #53
No, I don't know her but admire her writing. Lucky you..n/t monmouth4 Jan 2018 #46
Unfortunately no, but am a great admirer of her writing. Lucky you! monmouth4 Jan 2018 #47
Thank YOU amyferris Jan 2018 #49
Wow. So nice to "meet" you too. Love your writing..n/t monmouth4 Jan 2018 #50
Not sure how you found me, but so grateful amyferris Jan 2018 #52
I bet people have said that about Indira Gandhi, Golda Meir, Margaret Thatcher IronLionZion Jan 2018 #41
"The personal is political." Sparkly Jan 2018 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author Fla Dem Jan 2018 #48
H Clinton is our president. I intend to walk with her. delisen Jan 2018 #51

dlk

(11,546 posts)
7. Too Many Americans Seem to Require Someone to Hate and All Too Often It's An Older Woman
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 12:33 PM
Jan 2018

In many ways, we are a very backward nation and haven't figured out how to teach basic respect for all women, especially women "of a certain age."

Bondor

(63 posts)
10. Absolutely. Unless...
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 12:55 PM
Jan 2018

Unless she is Michelle Bachmann. in which case i would just as soon she shrivel up and go away. But not because she is a woman of experience, rather because she is deranged and destructive.

onlyadream

(2,166 posts)
13. Amen to THAT!
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 01:06 PM
Jan 2018

Why should an accomplished woman step aside and fade away when she has so much to offer? This is just ridiculous and shows that our country does not treat woman as equals. Should younger dems step up into leadership roles? Yes. Should we shove aside seasoned politicians? No. Not EVEN if they're female (insert massive eye-roll here).

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
15. minngal
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 01:17 PM
Jan 2018

Amy Ferris..........this is beautifully written and I so very much agree!! HRC is a wonderful example to all of us women. A lot of us have gone through our trials, have been knocked down and have survived and become better people because of it. The only ones that don't like HRC are older men that absolutely do not like strong women and other women that are jealous of her accomplishments. I know right now if she were President, we wouldn't be standing on the edge of war, bigotry, hatefulness and if she were President she would represent all of us and make us proud!! Thank you so much, Amy, for taking a stand for the women of this world!!

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
17. Well, she did get the most votes. And BTW...
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 01:28 PM
Jan 2018

Since this was definitely where the Electoral College should have done the job it allegedly exists for (anyway, many people knew what Trump WAS, and he showed it frighteningly during the campaign), could we, at long last, GET RID OF IT?

calimary

(81,209 posts)
38. My own experience has already taught me how right you are about the dynamics in play.
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 09:12 PM
Jan 2018

Men (generally older men) are threatened by strong women like Hillary. Many women are threatened by her accomplishments because of some weird fear that they themselves are somehow automatically made less by comparison.

It's true. It's very real. It's a hard, sad fact. And I have the proverbial knife wounds in the back to prove it - thanks to both genders.

amyferris

(4 posts)
44. You are so very welcome
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 12:36 AM
Jan 2018

Thank you thank you thank you for the fierce words of encouragement and inspiration. I will always take a stand for the women of this world. I can't imagine anything more extraordinary; we women so deeply deserve allies and advocates and champions. All my love to you, Amy

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
22. x 1000
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 02:02 PM
Jan 2018

It was that very persistence that always amazed me about Hillary Clinton, her willingness to get up, shake it off and keep going. In fact she said as much about the whole idea of falling/failing: that it isn't the fall that's ever important because everyone stumbles and falls. The important thing is who and what you are after you stand back up.

That sort of woman does not get pushed into a corner or ignored or told to quiet down. Because she always shows up, then rolls up her sleeves and works her heart out, whatever the task.

Fla Dem

(23,645 posts)
25. Problem in US. Other countries not so much.
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 02:38 PM
Jan 2018
Currently Serving
Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, President of Liberia...79
Sheik Hasina Wajed, Prime Minister of Bangladesh...70
Angela Merkel, Chancellor of Germany...63
Theresa May, British Prime Minister....61
Dalia Grybauskaite, President of Lithuania...61
Yingluck Shinawatra, Prime Minister of Thailand...50

Past
Johanna Sigurdardottir, Prime Minister of Iceland (2009-2013)...75
Tarja Halonen, President of Finland (2012--2014)...74
Dilma Rousseff, President of Brazil (2011-2016 impeached)...70
Golda Meir, Prime Minister of Israel, (1969-1974) 70 when she took office. Died 1978
Tarja Halonen, President of Finland, (2000-2012)69 when left office.
Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, President of Argentina (2007-2015)...64
Kamla Persad-Bissessar, Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago(2010-2015)...64
Indira Gandhi, Prime Minister of India, (1980- Assassinated: October 31, 1984) 63 when she took office.
Laura Chinchilla, President of Costa Rica (2010-2014)...58
Julia Gillard, Prime Minister of Australia (2010-2013)...56
Helle Thorning-Schmidt, Prime Minister of Denmark (2011-2015)...51
Margaret Thatcher, British Prime Minister, (1979-1990) 65 when left office. Died 2013.


Not a complete list. They all may not be or were great leaders. Just the fact that other countries don't seem to have a problem with female leaders.













 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
26. I have loved Hillary from the first day I heard about her...
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 02:38 PM
Jan 2018

...which was her graduation speech at Wellesley.

And I will continue to love and admire her. When that piece of shit won the electoral college, that wasn't Hilary's loss, it was America's loss.

calimary

(81,209 posts)
39. THIS.
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 09:52 PM
Jan 2018

I, too, will love and revere her til the very end. She remains a role model and a world class inspiration to me, personally. AND, let's not forget, YET AGAIN she's voted the most admired woman in America.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
27. Statement of fact: if women were in charge here and everywhere else
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 02:39 PM
Jan 2018

the human race would have one tenth the problems it has today.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
28. Personally relating a little intensely at the moment
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 02:47 PM
Jan 2018

NOT to compare myself or my struggles with aging to what Hillary goes through daily for the past 50 years....

But I just got yet another pile of bullshit for the simple act of being on a dating site.

I remember some article about online misogyny and a guy tried pretending to be a woman. After a FEW DAYS he was so shaken, he couldn’t handle it anymore. He wouldn’t have liked posing as an older woman, either. Fucking dickbrainrd, entitled, shallow men.

But dudes needn’t worry...chances are good they’ll find someone to give them attention, whatever their age.

Signed,
Bitter, Rotten Lonely Ol’ Bizatch.

/personal problems rant. Wait, though...it’s not just my personal problem. All women get this bullshit.

WorkDoctor

(60 posts)
30. confirmation from an older guy
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 03:52 PM
Jan 2018

Mature, smart, wise, funny, loving women are necessary for civilized society. We should listen more to them.

calimary

(81,209 posts)
40. Welcome to DU, WorkDoctor!
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 09:55 PM
Jan 2018

Agreed wholeheartedly! As a culture, we Americans do not value our elders. And that's a shame. They can teach us boatloads, and their wisdom can lead, illuminate, and inspire. They're a tremendous resource we all should treasure.

NNadir

(33,512 posts)
35. When the primary campaign began, I had a mildly negative opinion of Ms. Clinton.
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 06:44 PM
Jan 2018

As the campaign proceeded, and as I looked more closely at her, I realized she was a great woman, a wise and compassionate leader.

The propaganda directed against her by people of far lesser intellect, inferior ethics, and smaller accomplishments have only burnished her further.

As a nation, we are missing a woman who would have given credit to the Presidency, as opposed to a senile corrupt venal and uneducated man who has stained the office irrevocably with incompetence, stupidity and criminality.

 

newcriminal

(2,190 posts)
42. Do you know Amy?
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 10:53 PM
Jan 2018

She is a great woman! Supportive, caring, encouraging, beautiful Amy. We both live in Milford, and I am proud to call her my friend.

amyferris

(4 posts)
49. Thank YOU
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 12:17 PM
Jan 2018

Monmouth4!!!!! Thank you so much for posting this; sharing me, my words! Greatly appreciated, and so very lovely to virtually meet you! All my love, Amy Ferris

amyferris

(4 posts)
52. Not sure how you found me, but so grateful
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 07:19 PM
Jan 2018

Not sure how you found me, but I am so grateful. All my love xo

IronLionZion

(45,425 posts)
41. I bet people have said that about Indira Gandhi, Golda Meir, Margaret Thatcher
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 05:30 PM
Jan 2018

and other old, bold, battle axes who shocked the shit out of their country's enemies without caring much what anyone thinks.

I can think of an orange dotard who needed to be put out to pasture long ago and hope Mueller will take him down eventually.

Response to monmouth4 (Original post)

delisen

(6,042 posts)
51. H Clinton is our president. I intend to walk with her.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 01:45 PM
Jan 2018

January 2017 was the end of the first phase of our Democratic Republic. In that phase we had 44 presidents-Washington through Obama- and we were the oldest continuous Democratic Republic on the planet. We also harbored deep divisions and prejudices which allowed our form of government to be subverted by a foreign power.

On Inauguration Day 2017 we became a defeated nation and right now we are still trying to figure out what happened and how to become a free country again-how to right the sunken ship of state.

If we can't raise up the sunken ship, it's going to lay there on the ocean floor like the old Titanic.

If we do raise it up, it will still not be the same Democratic Republic it was in Phase I. It will be at the most, a new phase-Phase II of the United States of America-yet it can be better than Phase I.

The worst thing we can do is write a false narrative of this time, of our defeat, of this illegitimate presidency, and then teach that false narrative to our children as our history and let this president 45 be regarded as just one more link in an unbroken chain.

Phase II needs to be built on fact not illusion, and not on the alternative facts of the subverters.

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