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Siwsan

(26,257 posts)
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 12:37 PM Jan 2018

I think Meghan McCain needs to take a break from 'The View'

Her defensive behavior is really getting out of hand. Now, I know she's in a bad place, emotionally. I've been in her shoes. My Dad died of a brain tumor. Her Dad is dying of one. I remember that whole, awful ordeal in startling detail, and Dad died in 1999.

I reached a point where my mind was no longer at work, even though my body was, so I took personal time off, and spent that time with my Dad. I have always taken great comfort from being with him when he drew his last breath.

Even though the plan is for Senator McCain to return to the Senate - when a brain tumor decides it's time for you to start to go, you don't get much warning. The day Dad died, we were told that his insurance company wouldn't pay for his hospice care, any longer, because he had become 'too stable'. Mom headed home to get some rest and her checkbook, so we could go private pay, leaving me to sit with Dad. She wasn't gone for much more than an hour when he died.

I guess my point is, I hope Meghan doesn't miss the opportunity to spend as much time with her Dad as possible. That time is now fleeting. Meanwhile, my heart is breaking for her.

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I think Meghan McCain needs to take a break from 'The View' (Original Post) Siwsan Jan 2018 OP
This is so funny when you realize she has no talent, none, at all, neither did Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #1
She just seems determined to be obstreperous Siwsan Jan 2018 #2
But wasn't she like this before he Dad's diagnosis? n/t Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #4
I never remember her being THIS harsh. She seemed to be more of a moderate. Siwsan Jan 2018 #7
Her only qualification is the fact that her dad is John McCain. avebury Jan 2018 #9
I don't understand conservatives like her JonLP24 Jan 2018 #15
They are true believers that lower taxes create jobs and that everyone stevenleser Jan 2018 #41
I agree with Maher paraphrasing Bernie Sanders JonLP24 Jan 2018 #42
+1 dalton99a Jan 2018 #17
She benefits greatly from his Tax Bill vote. delisen Jan 2018 #32
+ struggle4progress Jan 2018 #35
Agree that she has no talent, except springing from a McCain at birth. Still, I do feel for her now. Alice11111 Jan 2018 #27
Same for that Bush twin on NBC. No talent, just a family name. kairos12 Jan 2018 #33
Elizabeth Hasselbeck... Wounded Bear Jan 2018 #40
She is terrible on the show kimbutgar Jan 2018 #3
I've just started watching, again, this week, so I'm still sizing things up Siwsan Jan 2018 #5
She has gone bat shit crazy. avebury Jan 2018 #10
That's the impression I've gotten, too Siwsan Jan 2018 #14
From her first show she said RandomAccess Jan 2018 #31
"She wasn't gone for much more than an hour when he died" left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #6
Yup - my mom, sister and I never left Dad's side Siwsan Jan 2018 #8
I was lucky enough to have my mom's hand just as she was about to pass, OnDoutside Jan 2018 #19
Thats what happened to my uncle maryellen99 Jan 2018 #20
Wow, that gave me chills DesertRat Jan 2018 #22
Nice ending. Special. Alice11111 Jan 2018 #28
... Lucinda Jan 2018 #45
I think sometimes people hang on lunatica Jan 2018 #12
Yes - members of my family sat with Dad for almost a week csziggy Jan 2018 #13
My brother and I finally went to breakfast (I had slept on the floor); Mom died. Shrike47 Jan 2018 #29
Sometimes I think they subconsciously wait to let go. My dad died suddenly of a stroke tblue37 Jan 2018 #37
Not sure why they got rid of Jedediah for Meghan RockaFowler Jan 2018 #11
So sorry Clarity2 Jan 2018 #16
That pretty much sums up my feelings about Meghan Siwsan Jan 2018 #18
at least she went ahead and got married... Phentex Jan 2018 #23
I think her attitude about the show and her part in it is RandomAccess Jan 2018 #34
I'd almost put money on the SOL wanting to fill McCain's senate seat, when the time comes Siwsan Jan 2018 #46
Good post. Many of us have been there. Stinky The Clown Jan 2018 #21
why is she even there? Skittles Jan 2018 #24
I don't think her selection is working out like they thought it would Siwsan Jan 2018 #25
I also wish she would scrape off a layer of two of that makeup. She is still young and tblue37 Jan 2018 #38
Recommended. An outstanding display of empathy on your part. guillaumeb Jan 2018 #26
My mother in law also died about an hour after we left for the night. I think sometimes pnwmom Jan 2018 #30
See my post #37 above, which I posted before I got all the way down here to yours. We tblue37 Jan 2018 #39
I stopped watching because of her. blueinredohio Jan 2018 #36
I just saw Friday's show and it was the worst I've seen her. betsuni Jan 2018 #43
Right wing women disgust me anyway, bdjhawk Jan 2018 #44
My opinion of her agenda solidified after the Joe Biden appearance on the View, a short while back Siwsan Jan 2018 #47

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
1. This is so funny when you realize she has no talent, none, at all, neither did
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 12:39 PM
Jan 2018

elizabeth whatever her name was

Their ONLY qualification is willingness to spew rightwing lies.

Siwsan

(26,257 posts)
2. She just seems determined to be obstreperous
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 12:43 PM
Jan 2018

Before she decided to become a super-conservative, she was tolerable. Now she is just 99% angry.

BUT, again, I've been in her shoes, and have little doubt I was pretty intolerable, at times, while dealing with extreme family issues. That pain and frustration has to be channeled somewhere.

Siwsan

(26,257 posts)
7. I never remember her being THIS harsh. She seemed to be more of a moderate.
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 12:51 PM
Jan 2018

But now she's married to a guy she calls 'the most conservative man in the country' so maybe she's just acclimating to her new situation.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
9. Her only qualification is the fact that her dad is John McCain.
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 12:57 PM
Jan 2018

If she didn't have that family tie she would not have been given the job.

I would love to see Anna Navarro as the Conservative co-host. She is an absolute hoot.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
41. They are true believers that lower taxes create jobs and that everyone
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 09:54 PM
Jan 2018

would be better off without as much public assistance as we have because then they (recipients of pa up to that point) would all go out an d get great jobs and have better lives.

Folks like Navarro believe that. But they are not jerks, they are just wrong

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
42. I agree with Maher paraphrasing Bernie Sanders
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 01:32 AM
Jan 2018

The GOP is a coalition of the greedy cynically and the truly stupid. Tax cuts for the rich they know leads to the rich getting richer and more monopolizing the GOP knows this they'll make up a bunch of bullshit but they know what they are doing. If anyone honestly believes that abouttax cuts for the rich than they are stupid

Cutting benefits on top of that while giving corporate welfare I never bought their arguments which they know are full of shit unless they are stupid.

delisen

(6,042 posts)
32. She benefits greatly from his Tax Bill vote.
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 07:30 PM
Jan 2018

I have lost patience with super rich people who do not work toward equality.

Wounded Bear

(58,629 posts)
40. Elizabeth Hasselbeck...
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 09:48 PM
Jan 2018

Her claiim to fame is that she is the sister-in-law of an NFL Quarterback who played in Super Bowl 40.

Oh, her husband was a QB, too, but I don't think he ever started a game in the league. He played backup for a few years, then I think he got a job with ESPN. Big Brother, her BIL, was a starter for 10 years in Seattle.

Yeah, she was always a bit empty headed, IMHO.

kimbutgar

(21,111 posts)
3. She is terrible on the show
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 12:44 PM
Jan 2018

Yesterday with Greta really showed how out of her depth she is. I like hearing conservatives like Anna Navarro but she is an idiot.

Siwsan

(26,257 posts)
5. I've just started watching, again, this week, so I'm still sizing things up
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 12:50 PM
Jan 2018

Meghan just seems like a totally different person than she was, during the Obama administration. She was 'conservative', then, but rationally conservative. Now she's just diggin herself into a picked upon personna.

Maybe her ponytail is too tight.

But no matter how ridiculous she sounds, I still feel great empathy for what she's going through.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
10. She has gone bat shit crazy.
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 12:59 PM
Jan 2018

I thought initially that she would be a good fit until I saw how unhinged she has become. Her husband in an extreme ultra right winger and she has now drunk the kool-aid. She has lost all credibility.

Siwsan

(26,257 posts)
14. That's the impression I've gotten, too
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:03 PM
Jan 2018

However, at times she looks on the verge of tears, which is what I attribute to what she's dealing with, concerning her Dad.

But, of course, I might just be projecting my experience.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
31. From her first show she said
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 07:28 PM
Jan 2018

she felt an obligation to "explain" all of conservadom to the world.

And clearly, uphold it, and make everyone understand it, and tolerate it, and not say bad stuff about it. She's taken on the whole thing as her responsibility to uphold single-handedly if necessary. It's preposterous and quite burdensome for the viewer. I've sent her and ABC several tweets suggesting she back off a bit.

In the meantime, we'll have to just take it, I guess. But she sure can be overbearing.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
6. "She wasn't gone for much more than an hour when he died"
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 12:50 PM
Jan 2018

My brother sat with our mom around the clock during her last few days.
Needing a break, he went to a nearby restaurant to get a hot meal,
and she passed why he was out.

Siwsan

(26,257 posts)
8. Yup - my mom, sister and I never left Dad's side
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 12:55 PM
Jan 2018

But my sister needed to get back with her kids and Mom needed to get her checkbook.

I sometimes think Dad waited until it was just the two of us. We were very close - much closer than I ever was to my mom. It was August and a beautiful day. I opened the window to get some fresh air, and saw some egrets by a pond. My Dad loved to watch birds, so I told him 'The sun is out and there are some beautiful birds by the reeds. Why don't you go have a look?' A few minutes later, he was gone.

OnDoutside

(19,952 posts)
19. I was lucky enough to have my mom's hand just as she was about to pass,
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:56 PM
Jan 2018

she had been in a coma for 48 hours before and there was just myself, my aunt and my brother in law still up. One asked me what time it was and I replied 12.30, to which my BIL said no, it was 2am....at which point I felt my mother's hand move. I was facing her at the side of her bed, when I could sense a light behind me, then my mother lifted her hands, head and shoulders as if greeting someone, with a smile on her face. And with that she was gone. I'll never forget it.

maryellen99

(3,788 posts)
20. Thats what happened to my uncle
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 02:01 PM
Jan 2018

He was dying of diabetes complications-he had been in a coma for 12-24 hours. My aunt left the room to let the hospice worker in and when she came back he was gone.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
12. I think sometimes people hang on
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:01 PM
Jan 2018

Because they want to “be there” for a loved one who won’t leave their bedside.

It’s like they want to make it as easy as possible for the person who cares so much that they won’t leave their side.

csziggy

(34,135 posts)
13. Yes - members of my family sat with Dad for almost a week
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:02 PM
Jan 2018

After not leaving him alone for even a minute, my sister & her husband took Mom to breakfast at the hospital cafeteria. (I was at the hotel sleeping.)

When they got back to the room, Dad was gone.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
29. My brother and I finally went to breakfast (I had slept on the floor); Mom died.
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 07:21 PM
Jan 2018

Seems like a common story.

tblue37

(65,273 posts)
37. Sometimes I think they subconsciously wait to let go. My dad died suddenly of a stroke
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 09:41 PM
Jan 2018

during the 20 minutes my sister left to pick her daughter up at work.

It's as though they hold on while you're there and then let go as soon as you're gone.

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
11. Not sure why they got rid of Jedediah for Meghan
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:00 PM
Jan 2018

Jedediah was smart and could at least hold a conversation about Conservatism

Meghan always has to say - And this is why you lost

Clarity2

(1,009 posts)
16. So sorry
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:15 PM
Jan 2018

about your Dad. How devastating.

I agree Meghan should take the time to be with her father. If I had that chance to be with my father before he passed (it was a sudden illness followed by being in a coma), I would take it in a heartbeat.

I also thought she was a moderate voice until Trump came along. She was pushing the Republican party to become a a little more progressive. She's still thickly at times on the trump train, unless he is attacking her father. I don't get it. She also was fully on board with Kid Rock running for president, which shows her lack of sanity (either now due to circumstances, or generally). I still have a lot of empathy for her situation, but I don't align with her politics at all.

Siwsan

(26,257 posts)
18. That pretty much sums up my feelings about Meghan
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:24 PM
Jan 2018

She seems to now be firmly entrenched in the whacko zone.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
23. at least she went ahead and got married...
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 06:10 PM
Jan 2018

that was the smart thing to do if she wanted her dad to be there.

I've seen several shows with her on board and I predicted she would not be able to handle this group. She is actually doing better than I expected. But she looks miserable most of the time and has almost cried a few times. She obviously is trying to take this job seriously as she keeps reminding us that she was hired to be the conservative voice on the show. She tends to say this when she is struggling with how to "explain" some cockamamie thing Trump has just done or said and why it won't matter to his base.

I don't think she will last much longer than the last hosts who have tried this position. The crazy gets harder and harder to justify.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
34. I think her attitude about the show and her part in it is
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 07:32 PM
Jan 2018

colored by the fact that her dad STRONGLY encouraged her to take the job: "But you HAVE to," and have to represent conservatism.

So she sees it as her duty, and the fact that he's dying doesn't help.

Siwsan

(26,257 posts)
46. I'd almost put money on the SOL wanting to fill McCain's senate seat, when the time comes
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 10:28 AM
Jan 2018

The thought came to mind, the instant Meghan described his politics.

Siwsan

(26,257 posts)
25. I don't think her selection is working out like they thought it would
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 07:05 PM
Jan 2018

The behind the scenes drama was, at least at one time, pretty intense, particularly between her and Sunny.

She was much more moderate, in the past. Now it's like she's either trying to prove her political ideology to be equal to her new husband, or she's thinks setting herself up as a professional 'victim' is a good career move. Her discussion technique is to just get angry and defensive. Some of the stuff she was spewing today was just so cringeworthy.


tblue37

(65,273 posts)
38. I also wish she would scrape off a layer of two of that makeup. She is still young and
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 09:44 PM
Jan 2018

pretty enough to not need so much of it.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
30. My mother in law also died about an hour after we left for the night. I think sometimes
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 07:24 PM
Jan 2018

it's harder for a dying person to let go when a loved one is there.



tblue37

(65,273 posts)
39. See my post #37 above, which I posted before I got all the way down here to yours. We
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 09:45 PM
Jan 2018

had the same idea.

betsuni

(25,449 posts)
43. I just saw Friday's show and it was the worst I've seen her.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 02:30 AM
Jan 2018

She gets this smug self-righteous look on her face when she's playing the victim, bullied by Teh Liberals in her imagination. Said since being on The View she's never felt so conservative, so defensive of Trump's base because now she knows what it's like to be lectured to (aimed at Joy who asked her "Who's lecturing you?" ). Just what are the conservative values that Trump voters voted for? If the 30% minority of voters who chose this government were Democrats and not Republicans, Meghan would be outraged at the unfairness.

Unprofessional, emotional, makes it all about herself and her feelings. She won't last long I think (hope). Ana Navarro was terrific on the panel.

bdjhawk

(420 posts)
44. Right wing women disgust me anyway,
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 02:46 AM
Jan 2018

Last edited Sat Jan 6, 2018, 04:27 AM - Edit history (1)

but as a progressive woman, I am really disgusted when these conservative women project themselves to be such strong independent thinkers then suddenly take on the opinions of the man in their lives. Meghan seems to have changed from a fairly pragmatic conservative who didn't like the extreme turn her party was taking into an extreme shill doing nothing but parroting her husband's opinions. "Sad"....as the orange micropenis would say.

And the way tRump, the bone spurred draft dodger, dissed her father, I could NEVER defend someone who spoke about my father that way.

Siwsan

(26,257 posts)
47. My opinion of her agenda solidified after the Joe Biden appearance on the View, a short while back
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 10:44 AM
Jan 2018

She has experienced the warmth and compassion of Joe Biden (and other Democrats) to her and her Dad, and the disrespect of trump* and every GOPer who didn't angrily call out trump* for what he said about her Dad. Nobody can deny the sincerity of what Joe said about John McCain. Watching him comfort and reassure Meghan brought me to tears.

Yet, she still throws her support behind the man and political party that has viciously disrespected her Dad and his military service. At the same time, she seems to have no problem fighting against the Democrats who would fight for his honor, and the honor of, and wellbeing other veterans.

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