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Fri Jan 5, 2018, 08:12 PM

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Today’s use of criminal prosecution to harass opponents and silence critics should remind: the crisis is not one unstable president; it is the system of power that enables him




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kpete Jan 2018 OP
Cha Jan 2018 #1
Phoenix61 Jan 2018 #2
bdamomma Jan 2018 #8
pangaia Jan 2018 #29
BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #3
Jarqui Jan 2018 #4
dhill926 Jan 2018 #5
Wounded Bear Jan 2018 #9
DemocracyMouse Jan 2018 #6
lagomorph777 Jan 2018 #21
Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #7
Duppers Jan 2018 #10
HurricaneWarning Jan 2018 #14
Duppers Jan 2018 #15
rainin Jan 2018 #11
Duppers Jan 2018 #18
smirkymonkey Jan 2018 #12
KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2018 #13
kpete Jan 2018 #17
Duppers Jan 2018 #19
KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2018 #20
Duppers Jan 2018 #22
KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2018 #23
pangaia Jan 2018 #30
arthritisR_US Jan 2018 #24
KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2018 #25
SHRED Jan 2018 #16
dalton99a Jan 2018 #28
pangaia Jan 2018 #31
duforsure Jan 2018 #26
pangaia Jan 2018 #32
dalton99a Jan 2018 #27
Gabi Hayes Jan 2018 #33
SunSeeker Jan 2018 #34
spanone Jan 2018 #35
SergeStorms Jan 2018 #36
Nitram Jan 2018 #37

Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 08:14 PM

1. Thank you, David Frum!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 08:14 PM

2. We are officially a banana republic.

How the hell did this happen? Why aren't we in the streets marching? I'm am so disappointed. We are so much better than this.

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Response to Phoenix61 (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 09:49 PM

8. We are better than this

I think the pressure cooker is ready to pop!! It will be a matter of time (if we have time) to get out in the streets!!!!! Let them take something else from Americans.

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Response to Phoenix61 (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 6, 2018, 12:53 PM

29. We are not better than this if we are not "in the streets marching."

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 08:17 PM

3. Sage words and scary times we live in.

RESIST!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 09:01 PM

4. I've felt that for quite some time

Good on Frum for finding succinct words

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 09:29 PM

5. what a Bizarro world....

where I'm a big fan of Frum. He's intelligent and well spoken....glad he's returned from the dark side...

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Response to dhill926 (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 09:52 PM

9. I wouldn't go that far...

He's still ultra-conservative.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 09:42 PM

6. ... and we call them "conservatives"

What are they actually conserving? They are undermining the Constitution, the environment, civility, children's health...

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Response to DemocracyMouse (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 6, 2018, 03:54 AM

21. Their fortunes.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 09:42 PM

7. It's also & maybe more to discredit the dossier among the wobbly middle


They want the charges out there now. They don't care if anything is done later. They just want to keep the idea of "dossier = bad" in front of the public. And the news media will go along with it.


Every step will be shouted with a bullhorn at 11 pm. Steele will not appear, so they will try to block him getting a visa. News at 11. They will try to seize his assets. News at 11. They will try to seize his records. News at 11.

News at 11. It's Benghazi all Benghazi about Benghazi making Benghazi the Benghazi wobbly Benghazi middle Benghazi waver Benghazi on Benghazi the Benghazi dossier Benghazi. News at 11. To Benghazi make Benghazi them Benghazi say Benghazi "the Benghazi dossier Benghazi must Benghazi be Benghazi garbage Benghazi because Benghazi a Benghazi Senator Benghazi wants Benghazi to Benghazi charge Benghazi the Benghazi guy Benghazi for Benghazi lying". News at 11.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 10:34 PM

10. +1000000

Watching Rachel. I don't have words for the summary of the political status she's presenting. I knew all of this but she's presented all of it together, back to back, and it's overwhelming. If something BIG doesn't change SOON, our democracy is over.


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Response to Duppers (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 10:55 PM

14. Yes!!!

Rachel is putting it all together. Time to hit the streets on January 20! Make it bigger and better than last year's march.

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Response to HurricaneWarning (Reply #14)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 11:11 PM

15. I'll be there! ...

If I'm over this flu by then...I've had 2 relapses. It's a booger.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 10:38 PM

11. Rachel is very scary right now. n/t

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Response to rainin (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 11:12 PM

18. That's the truth.

I felt like crying.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 10:47 PM

12. K&R

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 10:47 PM

13. A little logic here....

Quote: "it is the system of power that enables him".

Hypothesis: Money = Power.

Therefore: "it is the system of money that enables him".

Test of the logic: Who are Trump's most effective supporters?

Answer: Billionaires (Mercers, Kochs, Murdochs, etc.)

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #13)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 11:12 PM

17. in a nutshell

thanks,
kp

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #13)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 11:15 PM

19. And easily brainwashed voters.

Their insane base. The crooked lawmakers count on that in order to keep their jobs.

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Response to Duppers (Reply #19)

Sat Jan 6, 2018, 03:50 AM

20. Brainwashed by extreme right-wing media moguls....

such as Murdoch and Sinclair....who are in turn funded by that very base of citizens. Ironic?

This is a soft coup against our government by ultra-rich people we can't even know or see!


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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #20)

Sat Jan 6, 2018, 04:12 AM

22. Yes. Good point.

But just by being informed (thanks to the press) we do have a clue to what's happening and who is pulling the strings. And, we've listened to their propaganda and knew it was bogus. Why does it appeal to some?

I grew in a red state and in a Republican family but knew they were full of it before I entered college.

Why are some folks so easily brainwashed? Like my conforming parents, they're idiots?


- proud black sheep of the family

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Response to Duppers (Reply #22)

Sat Jan 6, 2018, 05:38 AM

23. Congrats, black sheep Duppers!

I didn't grow up around many Republicans at all in the 50s and 60s and the few I knew were some of the wealthiest in my tiny country town. They were all very moderate compared to most of those we see today. One could even reason with them. I became interested in science at an early age, so keeping my mind open came naturally and my university time enhanced that tremendously.

I think the big difference these days is the lack of innate (or learned) curiosity and no raw, instinctive desire for education I see in many people. If one has a healthy natural curiosity about all things along with a healthy basic education, one will ask a lot of probing questions and also naturally look at all sides of any question. Without those things, we can very easily be brainwashed by charlatans having all sorts of motives.

As you said, the information needed to make logical, well-informed decisions is out there and pretty much free on-line. However, that also means doing some very studious, boring reading and we now live in a world saturated with sensationalism, disinformation and deceit. Everyone now seems to just want to be entertained 24/7. That's the perfect setting for an economic coup by the plutocrats and I fear we're near that point now.

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Response to Duppers (Reply #22)

Sat Jan 6, 2018, 12:57 PM

30. people are asleep

So, they never question anything, beginning with themselves.. never look to see into something, starting with themselves, never look to find truth, especially in themselves....

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #20)

Sat Jan 6, 2018, 06:08 AM

24. The coup of your system of justice is anything but soft, imo.

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Response to arthritisR_US (Reply #24)

Sat Jan 6, 2018, 07:16 AM

25. K & R. Agreed, and with little media attention.

arthritisR_ME, too.


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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 11:11 PM

16. Let me help David here...

 

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Response to SHRED (Reply #16)

Sat Jan 6, 2018, 10:41 AM

28. +1

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Response to SHRED (Reply #16)

Sat Jan 6, 2018, 12:58 PM

31. BANG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jan 6, 2018, 10:38 AM

26. Using OUR DOJ to criminalize for power

A President abusing his powers by making the DOJ for only his ideology by going after anyone not bowing down to him should scare the hell out of everyone. Next, President Obama, Comey, Mueller, Wolfe, Journalists, business ceo's, and on and on. He's corrupting our government more every day he's allowed to be in office. Him and with the help of Republicans. Trump wants the Department Of Trump's Justice.

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Response to duforsure (Reply #26)

Sat Jan 6, 2018, 12:59 PM

32. NOT HIM ----REPUBLICANS !!!!

We need to beat this home..

It is Republicans who are to blame.......

yes, the media, and russians, blah blah blah,,'but REPUBLICANS!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jan 6, 2018, 10:40 AM

27. Bingo

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jan 6, 2018, 01:04 PM

33. And, as Joe conason predicted on Joy Reids show today, could lead to the end of democracy

 

They were discussing the current incarnation of the hunting of the clintons

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jan 6, 2018, 04:00 PM

34. Frum, please call that "system of power" by its name: the Republican Party.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jan 6, 2018, 04:05 PM

35. Fucking A+

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jan 6, 2018, 07:22 PM

36. As a very wise man once told me....

"fuckin 'a', bubba".

Well, it seemed very wise at the time.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jan 6, 2018, 08:00 PM

37. No, it is the dimwits who voted for Trump, and the refusal of Congressional Republicans

to honor their oath of office.

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