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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe #1 topic on the agenda at Camp David?
It will not be about the GOP legislative agenda.
It will be about protecting and defending Donald Trump and discrediting Michael Wolff, the Democrats, and the MainStream Media.
The book hit a nerve with Donald. He is obsessed about it.
He has already tweeted this morning about how "stable" he is and how he is "really smart"...
His next tweet might be: "I ain't crazy! I ain't crazy! I ain't! I ain"t! I ain't crazy!" !!
spanone
(135,815 posts)kentuck
(111,074 posts)Einstein: "Did you know that I'm a genius?"
Smart people do not have to tell you that they are smart.
Willie Pep
(841 posts)People who brag about being smart are usually not as smart as they think.
Raster
(20,998 posts)...they attempt to lord it over anyone, nor do they use their "gift" to diminish others. It's the same with the very rich. In other words, if you have to talk about, you probably don't have it.
PJMcK
(22,025 posts)Smart people know that there are other people who are smarter.
Trump is an idiot.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)If you believe you are the smartest person in the room, you are in the wrong room.
kentuck
(111,074 posts)Remember that one! When talking about the size of his hands...
What kind of person would say that in a public debate? Not a a very smart person. Actually, an uneducated, semi-literate, bullshit artist who has been exposed for what he is.
Raster
(20,998 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,513 posts)He knows them all.
Raster
(20,998 posts)...tRump* strings together the bullshit phrases, adds a bit of "color," and then repeats ad nauseum.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)They mean that, unlike his other lies that he tells constantly, he KNOWS what he's saying sounds fucking ridiculous; therefore, it requires an additional modifier to help "sell it".
ms liberty
(8,572 posts)He uses that one a good bit as well.
Raster
(20,998 posts)thbobby
(1,474 posts)The smarter you are, the stupider you know you are.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)just how stupid he really is. It's embarrassing.
Sedona
(3,769 posts)the 25th amendment.
thbobby
(1,474 posts)worries me that the agenda might be replacing Sessions in order to have a pathway to sabotage or fire Mueller. Wolff book definitely has Trump rattled, but the existential threat to trump is Mueller. GOP is complicit enough in collusion that they would confirm a new attorney general.
McConnell, Ryan, Sessions, Nunes, the RNC, and now it turns out the media*
all knew about Trump/Russia/Elections and did nothing or helped in the coup
so they now need to stop the investigations ASAP.
* https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210064912
Farmer-Rick
(10,151 posts)The FBI was, and probably still is, filled with RepubliCONS. RepubliCONS just love spying on the American people.
But the RepubliCONS in the FBI are not fans of criminals like Trump. Unlike Senate and House RepubliCONS, it seems FBI RepubliCONS have a limit to their corruption...for now.
gademocrat7
(10,651 posts)He has desecrated the office of the presidency.
CCExile
(467 posts)kentuck
(111,074 posts)...with the slimy green muck.
DemoTex
(25,392 posts)Queeg crumbles before our eyes.
Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)kentuck
(111,074 posts)...but it's just not as important now that they have their taxcut.
Raster
(20,998 posts)Good thought!
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)"I'm not crazy,I'm sane!!!"
"I'm not crazy,I'm sane!!!"
"I'm not crazy,I'm sane!!!"
"I'm not crazy,I'm sane!!!"
"I'm not crazy,I'm sane!!!"
Javaman
(62,510 posts)getagrip_already
(14,692 posts)Look at the list of attendees. Most of these names aren't required to discuss legislative goals in person. There are too many people to do that efficiently. This can't succeed. Even major corporations would never attempt this. You do it completely differently.
This mini-summit will be an organizational cluster fuck wrt the budget, legislative goals, or anything conspiratorial (you don't conspire in crowds you don't trust).
And look where it is. Camp David? That is unfamiliar to trump. He spends zero time there. If there is one thing that upsets someone suffering from dimentia or altzheimers, it's the unfamiliar. It disorients them. It stresses them.
But, it is well designed to do one thing.
This is also a 25th amendmendment summit. Everyone there is a player in a 25th amendment action.
You wouldn't do this (hold this meeting, with this many people, at camp david) and expect good behavior from trump.
This looks like it was designed to put him in a fishbowl, stress him out, and then make a decision to commit him.
This meeting will be very good for that.
lindysalsagal
(20,647 posts)No way was this designed to remove the fool.
getagrip_already
(14,692 posts)to remove him then and there.
I said it was designed to put him a fishbowl and let those that would vote on it and get support for it in congress to see what he is like.
A session to convince them that nothing can be accomplished with him in the drivers seat.
The actual removal would come later, after trying to get him to resign first.
The deal would be obvious: resign with a pardon from pence or we remove you now with the 25th. There would probably be a huge payoff from billionares to sweeten the deal.
The legislative summit makes no sense. Nobody can expect good results from this. Not even trump. This is done first with staff level contacts, which don't seem to have happened. Then the results are presented. They would already have been bought off on.
None of that has happened. There would have been leaks from both camps about what the agenda for the year would be.
It's like the old saw "A prosecutor never asks a question they don't know the answer to". A politician never meets to decide on something they haven't already agreed to.
world wide wally
(21,739 posts)Moral Compass
(1,516 posts)He basically did say hes not crazy. Think he called himself a very stable genius.
This has been reminding me of something and I couldnt quite put my finger on it.
Than it came to me. Hes sounding like Wile E. Coyote from the Roadrunner cartoons.
Mueller is the Roadrunner.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)He wants to make it across the one year mark .... ... but can't remember how long he's been there ....
kentuck
(111,074 posts)Did he not try to talk him out of it himself?
Why would he try to get the WH Counsel to talk him out of it if he was not trying to influence the investigation??
getagrip_already
(14,692 posts)he found out when sessions told him that was what he was going to do, after he was confirmed. It was then that all the pressure was put on him.
Though I'm not sure if he recused himself before trump fired comey.
democrank
(11,092 posts)My guess....how to fire Mueller, who should replace Sessions, solidifying talking points on why Russia investigation is a waste of time.
Farmer-Rick
(10,151 posts)It's all about firing Sessions in a way that the American people will swallow. Then the idiot in charge will pick his henchmen to get rid of Mueller. Then everything will be hunky dory and Trump will blow up North Korea and turn the US into a mini Russia.
He picked camp David because he doesn't want the participants to be too comfortable. Camp David is big and is now very cold AND it is secured from the media and other non Russian spies.
getagrip_already
(14,692 posts)even these idiots would know that. You do this stuff through back channels. That's what the russian burn phones are for.
OxQQme
(2,550 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,647 posts)The assumption that there is one specific action or article or law or goal is overly optimistic. That's how the rest of us think, not 45.
It's really simple: He's terrified because the world is not only about to ruin his white house infestation, we're going to tear down his private empire and imprison himself and his family.
And I still don't completely buy that the rnc will back him when he walks the plank: At some point, the evidence will really be too much for them to avoid, their polling will all plummet even more, and the cratering will be too much. One by one, the rats are already jumping ship.
It only remains to be seen exactly which fool will still be sitting next to him, holding the "old maid" card, as he's running away to a foreign country to avoid jail time. Kelly Anne? Sarah? Eric? Jared?
Personally, I'd be vewey vewey careful next time anyone from the weasle's nest gets on a private plane: It's probably going to south america, and some local banana republic banks are about to have their prayers answered.
kentuck
(111,074 posts)"How many of you are still loyal to the greatest President you have ever known?"
"Paul, could you start around the table and tell us why you believe I am the greatest?"
"After everyone has made their vow of loyalty, we will discuss how we defend me from all the attacks from Sloppy Steve and the fake news media?"
" First of all, I am not crazy....I am not crazy."
"I am the most stable person you will ever meet.... Isn't that right, Mitch?"
"That's right, Mr. President."
And they all bow down in front of the Golden Calf before them.
mountain grammy
(26,608 posts)this is a first for him, so I think the GOP leadership is forcing this meeting. I believe the leadership is afraid of losing their grip on power, and that's all that matters, not that the idiot is unstable, immoral, incompetent and just plain dumb.
This is about the 2018 election and how the unpopular GOP remains in power, even if it means no 2018 election. They are plotting and planning and nothing good will result, like the meeting after Obama's election. This Camp David meeting could be the beginning of the end. They're also looking at a replacement for Sessions, and I'm sure he'll be even worse. Imagine that!
It's going to get worse. Americans better get in the streets. There are protests happening, but the media isn't covering them. We need more bodies. We need national and international attention.
Texin
(2,594 posts)I believe that is attributable to Harry Truman, but I might have that wrong.
The press is saying that Scott Pruitt is eyeing the Attorney General spot and tRump likes him. God help us all.
mountain grammy
(26,608 posts)but the Senators would like Pruitt. Color me sick, scared and completely disgusted.
getagrip_already
(14,692 posts)Unfamiliar places and faces cause them a lot of stress. They get angry and confused easily.
If rump is really in the early to mid stages of some form of dementia, this will push to extremes.
This will not end well, even if they keep the groups he interacts with small and short. He can't pay attention to long meetings. He needs sound bites and lots of rest.
This is absolutely the wrong place and format for him to get anything accomplished. It can't possibly be a working meeting.
It certainly isn't a conspiracy session. Ryan and company would walk right out. Half the room will be wearing a wire.
mountain grammy
(26,608 posts)"This is absolutely the wrong place and format for him to get anything accomplished." Doesn't that assume he plans to accomplish anything or is capable of accomplishing anything?
No, they're dragging him there for a reason. Far from view, very secure. They're plotting. I'd bet on it.
getagrip_already
(14,692 posts)Whatever purpose this meeting has, it isn't a legislative strategy session. This is like when two world leaders meet. Usually, any agreements or initiatives have been worked out through diplomatic channels before the leaders meet. They have already agreed to either agree, or disagree, and on what points they will make public.
The same is true when you bring in ryan and mcconnel. Usually.
Except there is zero indication this has been done. No leaks have come out to build up the outcome.
Whatever they are meeting about, it isn't legislation. I just don't think it's conspiracy planning. Ryan and mitchie wouldn't come within 100 miles of a meeting like that in person. Probably half the room is wearing a wire.
Now maybe trump just demanded everyone show up and thinks he will just impose his wit and logic on everyone, but we know how that will end.
Some game is afoot. But it can't be the fire muehler conspiracy. They couldn't be THAT stupid, could they?
mountain grammy
(26,608 posts)Local news refuses to cover any local protests.. I know because I've been to several where a few hundred peple show up and zero local coverage..
I remember well after Obama's election, any gathering of 10 or more teabaggers got a few minutes of coverage on every local news and very often on national news.
The local and national news are not sounding alarms like they should, but corporate media will go down with the ship as long as it's good for ratings.
As for the GOP at Camp David.. They're all corrupt up to their eyeballs. They're figuring out who will take the fall so they can carry on with securing power for the forseeable future.
C_U_L8R
(44,996 posts)for a Republican Party strategy pow-wow.
I mean, were paying for it. The GOP can go find its own place. Thank you very much.
lindysalsagal
(20,647 posts)Had to rush to the presser: They fixed the whole world in 2 hours.
Follows the evidence that he really can't sit still or listen or learn: All he can do is produce tv blab sessions about his standard B.S.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10065707
Most likely, Mitch and Paul suggested to just go out and do the usual thing and try to minimize the impact: Show the world you're not insane....
getagrip_already
(14,692 posts)in 2 hours?
sounds like someone yelled and screamed and the adults said enough, we are out of here.......
lindysalsagal
(20,647 posts)attention deficit potus. Solved the world's problems in 2 hours.
spanone
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sheshe2
(83,710 posts)However he is 'smarting' over the comments.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)is that 100% of people around trump beleive he is incompetent idiot. Everything else was known way before the election so it will sway no votes. But the book is therapeutic. No longer I am afraid of what trump might do because no one will take his military orders seriously.
madamesilverspurs
(15,800 posts)they'd gathered to draw straws to determine who's next to take a fall for him and they all drew the short one.
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