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The thing about really smart people... (Original Post) MrScorpio Jan 2018 OP
Smart people generally say and do smart things C_U_L8R Jan 2018 #1
You appear to have never read Carl Sagan's "Me is Really Smart and Mamma Said I'm Stable Dammit" NightWatcher Jan 2018 #2
"Stable genius" is a real clear sign that he's neither MrScorpio Jan 2018 #3
Or that he's Mr. Ed... JHB Jan 2018 #4
Nice Bob Loblaw Jan 2018 #9
but he's not just smart - he's a genius! Says he. salin Jan 2018 #5
... handmade34 Jan 2018 #6
Excellent observation MrScorpio Jan 2018 #7
David Dunning, May 2016: "Trump has served up numerous illustrative examples of the effect" muriel_volestrangler Jan 2018 #11
Bottom line...he is unhinged, extremely dangerous and Guilded Lilly Jan 2018 #12
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2018 #16
Stable Smart blogslut Jan 2018 #8
A bit of information about "Mr. Ed" Stuart G Jan 2018 #10
Im old enough to remember that movie!! From... Guilded Lilly Jan 2018 #13
I'm pretty sure that Francis did more than one movie... Wounded Bear Jan 2018 #14
It was a bit of a franchise for Donald OConnor... Guilded Lilly Jan 2018 #15

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
6. ...
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 09:53 AM
Jan 2018

Dunning and Kruger... "Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments."

muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
11. David Dunning, May 2016: "Trump has served up numerous illustrative examples of the effect"
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 10:26 AM
Jan 2018

The problem is, as the professor himself pointed out, that Trump's voters also massively suffer from the Dunning-Kruger effect, and don't know enough to spot an incompetent fraud themselves, but think they could:

This syndrome may well be the key to the Trump voter—and perhaps even to the man himself. Trump has served up numerous illustrative examples of the effect as he continues his confident audition to be leader of the free world even as he seems to lack crucial information about the job. In a December debate he appeared ignorant of what the nuclear triad is. Elsewhere, he has mused that Japan and South Korea should develop their own nuclear weapons—casually reversing decades of U.S. foreign policy.

Many commentators have pointed to these confident missteps as products of Trump’s alleged narcissism and egotism. My take would be that it's the other way around. Not seeing the mistakes for what they are allows any potential narcissism and egotism to expand unchecked.

In voters, lack of expertise would be lamentable but perhaps not so worrisome if people had some sense of how imperfect their civic knowledge is. If they did, they could repair it. But the Dunning-Kruger Effect suggests something different. It suggests that some voters, especially those facing significant distress in their life, might like some of what they hear from Trump, but they do not know enough to hold him accountable for the serious gaffes he makes. They fail to recognize those gaffes as missteps.
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Trump himself also exemplifies this exact pattern, showing how the Dunning-Kruger Effect can lead to what seems an indomitable sense of certainty. All it takes is not knowing the point at which the proper application of a sensible idea turns into malpractice.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-supporters-dunning-kruger-effect-213904

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
12. Bottom line...he is unhinged, extremely dangerous and
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 10:52 AM
Jan 2018

Needs removed. Republicans will fight that to the death of our country so that they can continue to corrupt and obliterate everything decent for personal gain and to cover up their treason.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
10. A bit of information about "Mr. Ed"
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 10:05 AM
Jan 2018

I think that I read somewhere, that this character "Mr Ed" was based on a movie character in the 50s named Francis the talking Mule. Also, I think that the creator of Francis, was the same one who got Mr. Ed on TV. Don't know for sure, but this information is put out there with no guarantees. I do not claim to be very "smart", just someone who remembers useless information...

Wounded Bear

(58,634 posts)
14. I'm pretty sure that Francis did more than one movie...
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 10:57 AM
Jan 2018

I suppose they switched to a horse to be more palatable to the general public, after the war and all.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
15. It was a bit of a franchise for Donald OConnor...
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 11:36 AM
Jan 2018

Right around the making of Singing in the Rain (still a favorite!)
I watched the TV show as well, but it wasn’t quite as witty but the phrase “oh, Willllburrrr” still makes me smile.
The donkey these days would be wayyyy too political!

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