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jpak

(41,757 posts)
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 09:26 PM Jan 2018

Scariest moment of my life: Cruise ship rides through fierce winter storm

https://wdef.com/2018/01/06/scariest-moment-life-cruise-ship-rides-fierce-winter-storm/

NEW YORK (CBS News) — Thursday’s winter storm pummeled the Tri-State Area, but imagine being in the thick of it on a cruise ship in the Atlantic Ocean. For 21 members of the Ross family, of Stony Brook, it was supposed to be the trip of a lifetime, CBS New York reports.

They were cruising to the Bahamas for their patriarch’s 80th birthday. Instead, they returned Friday after what they called a nightmare onboard the Norwegian Breakaway.

“I thought I’d never be in a situation where I would say that’s the scariest moment of my life. This was the worst moment of my life,” said Karoline Ross, speaking exclusively with CBS New York.

She and Del Ross spoke with the station while they were en route to New York, after they said their 4,000 passenger cruise ship sailed right into the storm Tuesday night for two harrowing days in ocean swells up to 30 feet. The seasoned boaters called it traumatic.

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Scariest moment of my life: Cruise ship rides through fierce winter storm (Original Post) jpak Jan 2018 OP
Worst moment of her life? Maybe not. PatrickforO Jan 2018 #1
She didn't say worst. She said scariest lunamagica Jan 2018 #9
Meh! I was on a Norwegian ship out of New York 8 or 9 years ago that was in the middle of a dhol82 Jan 2018 #2
One other tid bit from this trip - I had signed up for a hot stone massage dhol82 Jan 2018 #3
Wow. If only they'd had satellite weather warnings back then. Hortensis Jan 2018 #30
This sounds similar to one experience I had Phentex Jan 2018 #21
i am not sure i see what the problem is. drray23 Jan 2018 #4
Those big ships still sway. dhol82 Jan 2018 #5
Oh, and on one of my trips, the waves were breaking over the ninth deck dhol82 Jan 2018 #6
Maybe. I remember my time on the Caribou Reefer in the Bay of Fundy, in Canada. It was 125' mahina Jan 2018 #7
Weathered 50 foot seas in the Arctic and Southern Ocean jpak Jan 2018 #16
Holy smokes mahina Jan 2018 #17
The 50 foot seas in the Arctic were the scariest jpak Jan 2018 #20
Wow! That is one hell of a story. dhol82 Jan 2018 #22
Well children, I have another jpak Jan 2018 #25
I don't know enough to appreciate your last line, Hortensis Jan 2018 #31
Not really, there were strict rules to use Zodiacs - it was calm and sunny when we left the station jpak Jan 2018 #33
"Opposite direction." Did your hair then stand straight up too? Hortensis Jan 2018 #35
Noted above. leanforward Jan 2018 #8
What got me was the pervasive stench of vomit and shit all thorough the ship. Kaleva Jan 2018 #23
30 ft. seas on a 2250 class tin can gladium et scutum Jan 2018 #26
I defer to your experience. leanforward Jan 2018 #36
I went down Mt Etna in a snowstorm with a driver who had never driven in snow CTyankee Jan 2018 #10
that might have been my son onethatcares Jan 2018 #11
Not sure I know about that...which is funny because I've been to Sicily twice... CTyankee Jan 2018 #13
He lived in Catania (?) onethatcares Jan 2018 #14
Oh, yes, I was in Catania but it wasn't very pretty IIRC. It has Sigonella, our naval air CTyankee Jan 2018 #15
Ah, the imaginary passenger's brake pedal krispos42 Jan 2018 #18
Folks forget these floating resorts do in fact float dembotoz Jan 2018 #12
Well, yeah........but dhol82 Jan 2018 #24
Yikes! cwydro Jan 2018 #29
Not sure where most of them were but dhol82 Jan 2018 #32
Off topic, but I wish people would learn to hold their phones horizontally when shooting video. Liberal In Texas Jan 2018 #19
I'm sure the seawater pouring into floor cracks and draining out of ceiling panels Submariner Jan 2018 #27
TURN THE DAMN PHONE! snooper2 Jan 2018 #28
Why do they not avoid these things? Tipperary Jan 2018 #34

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
1. Worst moment of her life? Maybe not.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 09:32 PM
Jan 2018

But the ocean is a very scary place.

Hopefully, this really WILL be the worst moment in her life, in which case her life will be truly blessed.

dhol82

(9,352 posts)
2. Meh! I was on a Norwegian ship out of New York 8 or 9 years ago that was in the middle of a
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 09:34 PM
Jan 2018

Nor’easter for two days.
Going down to the Caribbean for a Christmas trip.
We were on the ninth deck in the front. Had to lock our exterior Hull doors and had waves sweeping over our balcony. Scary as shit. People were having hysterics and there was one woman who kept screaming that she wanted a helicopter to fly her out.
There was no problem getting into any restaurant on the ship.
The crew were cleaning up vomit in every hallway.
It was quite the trip.
By the time we got to the Bahamas it was peaceful.

dhol82

(9,352 posts)
3. One other tid bit from this trip - I had signed up for a hot stone massage
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 09:38 PM
Jan 2018

Twenty minutes in we got hit by a major wave and the container with the hot water and the stones tipped over and spilled all over the floor.
The masseuse ran out of the room and I had to wait until everything cooled down before I could get off the table.
Ah, good times.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
30. Wow. If only they'd had satellite weather warnings back then.
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 05:20 PM
Jan 2018
Or crippling lawsuits that made canceling cruises the more profitable option.

A giant cruise ship is no more than a piece of ruddered flotsum against the vast scale and power of the Atlantic. What a memory.



Phentex

(16,334 posts)
21. This sounds similar to one experience I had
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 09:15 PM
Jan 2018

I don't think it was supposed to be a bad storm but they had to lock the doors and the ship rocked quite a bit. People were sick all over. I just remember going to bed and rolling back and forth.

I can't imagine anything like what this article described!

drray23

(7,627 posts)
4. i am not sure i see what the problem is.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 09:40 PM
Jan 2018

These big ships are pretty much immune to these storms. They are not moving much even with 30ft waves outside. Apparently, they need to improve the waterproofing however.
Personally I would have found interesting to be able to witness a big storm from the comfort of a cruise ship




dhol82

(9,352 posts)
5. Those big ships still sway.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 10:53 PM
Jan 2018

It’s not as fun as you might think.
Especially not after a day or two.

dhol82

(9,352 posts)
6. Oh, and on one of my trips, the waves were breaking over the ninth deck
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 10:54 PM
Jan 2018

That’s not just thirty feet.

mahina

(17,642 posts)
7. Maybe. I remember my time on the Caribou Reefer in the Bay of Fundy, in Canada. It was 125'
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 10:54 PM
Jan 2018

and the seas were immense. Breaking over the deck and thick, more powerful than any force I have ever encountered before or since. It was f-ing terrifying because if that ship swamped, we were going to die. Definitely.

jpak

(41,757 posts)
16. Weathered 50 foot seas in the Arctic and Southern Ocean
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 07:19 PM
Jan 2018

We almost capsized in the former but were entertained in the latter.

jpak

(41,757 posts)
20. The 50 foot seas in the Arctic were the scariest
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 08:27 PM
Jan 2018

I was working in the enclosed research deck under the helo deck at 2 AM.

We parked deep in the ice to weather a 70 knot storm, and it was letting up.

The ship started to move to our morning sampling station - but the ship started to move up and down.

In 3 meter ice - this just doesn't happen.

I decided to get out on the main deck to see what was going on - it was the most terrifying and bizarre sight I have ever seen.

There were 40 foot swells of solid ice coming at us - and I was looking *UP* at them.

I thought to myself, "boy, if that broke on the deck, I would never be found".

Then I looked off in the distance - 50 foot waves were breaking over the ice edge.

But the ship kept going.

I ran back down to my work station and secured everything as best I could and dogged all the the hatches to the main deck.

I jumped into my bunk fully clothed with my boots on and waited....

The ship could not make the turn back into the ice until we reached open water.

Wen we made the turn, we went sideways into the 50 foot trough - and it was like a carnival ride.

All the heavy furniture in my cabin went flying and all I could hear was the crashing of everything that wasn't tied down in the lounge and mess.

When we got back into the ice, I was the only one up and geared - so I went up to the rad (radiation) lab where I also worked.

It was trashed - but then I looked down and saw liquid sloshing against my boots - a carboy of 14C-bicarbonate rad waste had fallen over and dumped on he floor.

I got as many absorbent things I could and kept the the stuff from escaping the rad lab.

Then I took my boots off and ran barefoot through the snow and ice on deck.

I got my cabin mate up - he was terrified - but he told me where I could find my some dilute hydrochloric acid to decontaminate my boots.

I got back to the main deck (where I was 30 minutes before) - and there were car-sized chunks of ice on it.

Later, the bridge crew showed me the video of the event.

The deck *above* the main deck had swamped - and where I was a half hour earlier - was completely submerged.

and the ship had come within 1 degree of list of capsizing.

It took us 3 days to repair the damage - but being a Quebec ship we partied like crazy every night.

Good times.







dhol82

(9,352 posts)
22. Wow! That is one hell of a story.
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 09:27 PM
Jan 2018

You should be able to dine out on that one for these of your life!

jpak

(41,757 posts)
25. Well children, I have another
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 10:23 PM
Jan 2018

Last edited Mon Jan 8, 2018, 07:02 AM - Edit history (1)

Working out of Palmer Station Antarctica on the cusp of the Millennium.

We had been weather-bound from sampling for 3 long weeks.

Which was critical to our research plan.

We had walked on sketchy ice for some sketchy sampling - but finally got the OK to take a Zodiac (rigid inflatable boat) out to the farthest sampling site from the station.

Zodiac's can push ice - very slowly - but they can make headway.

It took us 3 hours to make the 3 miles to our sampling station - past building sized ice bergs,

And having just deployed our sampling bottle to 100 meters - on our hand-cranked torture device

I got a call from the station....

*We just spiked at 60 knots*

I looked up, and there was a wall of white spiraling toward us.

We could not move with 100 m of cable deployed.

It took all 3 of us to get the gear in.

Each of us would crank until exhaustion - then the next one would take over.

We got the gear up and the engine started just as the wind hit.

Two of us jumped to the bow to prevent us from being blown over - the engine dude had to get us out.

I had the GPS and the radio- the station told us to get to one of the many local refuge islands - which were blocked by the moving ice.

We said "no go".

Then a wave came over the bow and disabled all our radios.

By stupid *dumb* luck we found ourselves in a narrow path of open water that had pulled away from the shore.

It took us an hour to get back from the station but they were mighty relieved.

I went up to the weather station - and the drum barometer scribe had popped off the bottom of the drum.









Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
31. I don't know enough to appreciate your last line,
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 05:30 PM
Jan 2018

but just "wow" to it all. Amazing experience, but then you were already in the middle of one before this little event.

jpak

(41,757 posts)
33. Not really, there were strict rules to use Zodiacs - it was calm and sunny when we left the station
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 06:35 PM
Jan 2018

In Antarctic parlance - we were in a "Sucker Hole".

Our weather forecasts from U. Wisconsin did not predict this.

When I walked into the weather shack after we got back, the wind and barometric recorders were in the opposite direction - wind straight up and barometric pressure straight down.

On edit - the barometric recording device had a slow rotating drum with a piece of paper attached to it. There was an ink pen that produced a trace of pressure readings.

Something like this...



The barometric pressure was so low, the pen that made the traces popped off the bottom of the drum recorder.

Got a picture of that some place.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
35. "Opposite direction." Did your hair then stand straight up too?
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 08:34 PM
Jan 2018
But by amazing experience, I meant being in the antarctic at all. Most times it must have been very quiet and routine, but...Antarctica.

I got nervous hearing afterward that my husband could see whitecaps from 30,000 feet while flying across the north Atlantic. A Toto, you're a long way from home feeling, but how wonderful for you. Most of the time.

leanforward

(1,076 posts)
8. Noted above.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 11:05 PM
Jan 2018

30 foot swells will create a rocking motion. As a teenager I had an opportunity to ride on a MSTS in the Mediterranean. As a result of that experience, a question. Could you feel a vibration when you could feel the stern of the ship lift out of the water? We had a lot of fun that evening and night. Some of us made the best of the foul weather. Did you know that when the stern of the ship starts down you can go up the ladder in about three rungs (steps to others)? The typical ladder between decks is about 10-15 steps.

My experience dates from 1958.

One other note. Thirty foot swells in a 65ft motor vessel or fishing boat, would be pure hell.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
23. What got me was the pervasive stench of vomit and shit all thorough the ship.
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 09:28 PM
Jan 2018

Sailors were seasick and barfing wherever and the CHT systems would back up and there was shit, piss and toilet paper sloshing around in the heads.

gladium et scutum

(806 posts)
26. 30 ft. seas on a 2250 class tin can
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 06:52 AM
Jan 2018

are pure hell. Cant relieve the watch for 16 hours, bilges awash in sea water, oil, vomit, urine & feces. Galley cant cook, have to strap yourself in in bunk. Watch the clinometer reach 39 degrees, point of no return is 44 degrees. Did that for 36 hours in the Atlantic some years back. What a ride.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
10. I went down Mt Etna in a snowstorm with a driver who had never driven in snow
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 01:35 AM
Jan 2018

before. I was scared shitless. It wasn't pleasant.

onethatcares

(16,165 posts)
11. that might have been my son
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 07:43 AM
Jan 2018

while he was stationed in Sigonella (Cigonella). He told my wife, " the brake is on my side and no matter how hard you hit the floor, you can't stop the car" and, " Screaming doesn't stop it either".


Doesn't that join the most dangerous highway in the world?

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
13. Not sure I know about that...which is funny because I've been to Sicily twice...
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 01:10 PM
Jan 2018

Taormina is just gorgeous...

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
15. Oh, yes, I was in Catania but it wasn't very pretty IIRC. It has Sigonella, our naval air
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 07:03 PM
Jan 2018

station there.

I remember hearing a historian on our trip talking about how Sicily was conquered by every empire in history because of its importance strategically. I recall the movie "Patton" dealt with that.

Taormina has some beautiful ruins going back to the Greeks. It was a nice history lesson for us who didn't know about Sicily's importance historically...

dhol82

(9,352 posts)
32. Not sure where most of them were but
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 05:57 PM
Jan 2018

I can say for sure that the small cruise ship was the one before us in the Drake Passage. That trip to Antarctica can be a pisser!
The passengers had to be rescued by a passing larger ship and the small one was damaged so badly that it was out of service for months.

Liberal In Texas

(13,543 posts)
19. Off topic, but I wish people would learn to hold their phones horizontally when shooting video.
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 07:52 PM
Jan 2018

end of rant.

Submariner

(12,503 posts)
27. I'm sure the seawater pouring into floor cracks and draining out of ceiling panels
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 04:58 PM
Jan 2018

shouldn't cause too much rust or electrical problems for the ship engineer.

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