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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 04:35 PM Jan 2018

HuffPo: Dr. Cornel West: The Biggest Crab in the Barrel

We should really be cautious about citing Cornel West as an authority on progressive positions. His analysis is often pretentious filled with jargon and name calling. They are formulaic in that West refers to the subject of his criticism as "Brother" or "Sister," may profess to love them, but then proceeds to belittle them with numerous references to them being a neoliberal. Nowadays, West is notable only when he is cited for his attacks on Democrats and other progressives.

Still, the election of Trump has not caused West to rethink his attacks on Democrats and progressives. Most recently, he has continued to attack other successful and well-known African American progressives. These days Cornel West most notable utility is to cite him against progressives and Democrats.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dr-cornel-west-the-biggest-crab-in-the-barrel_us_5a4a54c8e4b0df0de8b06bf1

There is a saying within the African-American community that once you start doing well, there is a certain type of black person who will start to hate on you and try to tear you down. Like crabs in a barrel, when you try to rise above your circumstances, they will try to pull you back down. After reading yet another attack on a younger, accomplished African-American by Dr. Cornel West that is what makes me disappointed as a black woman trying to rise above the circumstances she was born into. Instead of him being the brilliant and provocative speaker on race that he once was, he’s become just another crab in the barrel.

Although I am an attorney, I will freely admit that I am out of my depth talking about the relative merit or criticism of neoliberalism. I’m not interested in taking sides politically with either Dr. West or Ta-Nehisi Coates because I am more to the right of center within the Democratic Party than either of them. Regardless of political affiliation or ideological leanings, I love to see other black people win. In a world where we are too often seen as only being thugs, gangbangers or drug dealers, I have a sense of pride when I see black people acknowledged as having brilliance by the larger world like both Dr. West and Ta-Nehisi Coates. It begs the question of why someone as accomplished as Dr. West would insist on attacking other black thought leaders, and if his Ph. D actually stands for Player-Hater-Degree.

I think that this situation with Dr. West speaks to a much larger issue that seems to plague some African-Americans who have risen to a high level: too often instead of extending a helping hand to other people of color there is a perceptive fear that there can be only one of us, and they are bound and determined to be that one. This includes the willingness to disparage and cut off the legs of another black person to maintain that position for themselves.

This situation is about more than just a political disagreement, but also about a culture of distrust that sometimes exist between the younger generations and some established older black people who seem intent to kick another up and coming African-American off the ladder of success. I know there are people reading this piece who will lay the blame at the feet of “white supremacy” instead of laying it where it belongs, which regretfully is at the feet of every African-American that chooses to hurt another black person to preserve their place and couch it in some moral superiority like Dr. West has shown himself to do (i.e. calling out another person’s authenticity or commitment to black America.) What we all need to be conscious of is our commitment to black people is shown to the world by your interactions with other black people every day, not just some ideals that you preach about instead of practicing in real life.


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HuffPo: Dr. Cornel West: The Biggest Crab in the Barrel (Original Post) TomCADem Jan 2018 OP
K&R Scurrilous Jan 2018 #1
From the author GaryCnf Jan 2018 #2
Well, we know what West thinks... TomCADem Jan 2018 #5
Somehow I doubt GaryCnf Jan 2018 #7
The Writer Was A Black Woman not a White Conservative... TomCADem Jan 2018 #8
Hence this language GaryCnf Jan 2018 #10
I haven't forgotten West's ruthless derision of Obama... hlthe2b Jan 2018 #3
Me, neither. I think West was eaten up with jealousy. n/t pnwmom Jan 2018 #4
Cornel West is so overrated as anything. JDC Jan 2018 #6
West is a professional Marxist and a professional egotist Azathoth Jan 2018 #9
 

GaryCnf

(1,399 posts)
2. From the author
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 04:56 PM
Jan 2018

According to the linked article

I’m not interested in taking sides politically with either Dr. West or Ta-Nehisi Coates because I am more to the right of center within the Democratic Party than either of them.


Thanks for telling us what the establishment thinks about West. I'd be interested what she thinks is too left wing about Ta-Nishi?

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
5. Well, we know what West thinks...
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 05:34 PM
Jan 2018

...West’s only utility is to lend pretentiousness to attacks on Democrats and progressives from the “left”.

As to your quote, I see it as the author not trying to out left or out black West whose favorite attack on liberal African Americans is to call them neoliberals or Uncle Toms. Of course, many uninformed readers fall for such name calling so she says up front that is not to the left of either of them even though she is a Dem.

Still, some folks will insist that only the most pure progressive’s views are legitimate, which leads West to try to bring down his would be allies.

 

GaryCnf

(1,399 posts)
7. Somehow I doubt
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 06:01 PM
Jan 2018

That one in a hundred young black men have anything other than disgust for ANY person of color using the crabs in a pot analogy. It's the same accusation white conservatives leveled against those of us who attacked the portayal of Clarence Thomas as a legitimate voice in our community. Using it as a tool for attacking a person who continues to be respected in the community won't make the author any friends.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
8. The Writer Was A Black Woman not a White Conservative...
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 09:26 PM
Jan 2018

...and comparing Clarence Thomas to Cornel West? That seems to be a bit of a stretch and appears to avoid the author's central point about Cornel West. She simply noted that Cornel West has often attacked other leaders in the black community by questioning whether they are black enough or simply name calling them as neo-liberals.

Nitpicking the analogy does not really counter the central point of the article that Cornel West seems to have developed a cottage industry of attacking liberals, progressives and other African American leaders from the "left." That is how he remains relevant. If you were to Google Brietbart and Cornel West, you find him prominent featured. Likewise, he has been featured on Russia Today attacking President Obama's presidency.

Does Cornel West get put on TV to attack the Trump presidency? The answer is generally no. Instead, he gets most of his attention when he attacks members of the left, which allows him to be used as a tool by the very same corporate elites that he claims to be fighting against.

I think it is an open question as to whether Cornel West knows that he is being used as a tool by the right. However, if he goes on Sean Hannity and agrees with him that Democrats should not be trying to respond to the concerns of BLM protesters because doing so is politicizing the killing of black men by police, then you have to wonder.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/cornel-west-to-hannity-dems-too-empty-but-gop-too-mean-spirited/

Professor Cornel West joined Sean Hannity tonight to talk Ferguson and the midterms. And West agreed with Hannity it’s in bad taste for Democrats to be playing the race card or injecting politics into Ferguson (like this flyer in Georgia encouraging African-Americans to get out and vote).


Personally, if I was invited as a guest on Sean Hannity and he started agreeing with me, I would worry.
 

GaryCnf

(1,399 posts)
10. Hence this language
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 01:19 PM
Jan 2018

"have anything other than disgust for ANY person of color using the crabs in a pot analogy" Emphasis added.

She simply noted, i.e., accused, Cornell West of being a "non-achieving" black man who resents Ta-Nishi for his success. THAT is the crab in the pot analogy. THAT is what the author, as a "moderate" person of color claimed. THAT is what the supporters of Clarence Thomas claimed when we spoke up against him.

Btw, despite this little dust up, West's and Coates' views are a hundred times closer that Coates' views and the views of the author.

Btw, he remains relevant because the "middle" is still decidedly racist AND has the gall to claim that they are not.

hlthe2b

(102,205 posts)
3. I haven't forgotten West's ruthless derision of Obama...
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 05:05 PM
Jan 2018

so, on this (and for me), Coates automatically starts with the "high road".

JDC

(10,125 posts)
6. Cornel West is so overrated as anything.
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 05:57 PM
Jan 2018

He is just a bloviator. I could not care less about his twitter feuds, positions, or ideas - democratic/progressive or otherwise. I sincerely don't know why he gets the time he gets.

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
9. West is a professional Marxist and a professional egotist
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 09:30 PM
Jan 2018

That contingent of the extreme left has never been a useful addition to any left-of-center coalition.

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