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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs THIS what happened to turn Graham and Grassley?
Link to tweet
(Speculation probably not be definitive, but the additional connections are interesting.)
- Up until recently Lindsey Graham was one of Trump's harshest critics and one of Mueller's biggest supporters. Something has happened over the last 2 months or so which has suddenly cause @LindseyGrahamSC to make an abrupt turn.
That something I believe may be related to.. (2)
- his 2016 campaign manager named Christian Ferry @christianwferry. Ferry was and still is very close to Graham. In 2008 Ferry became the Deputy Campaign Manager for the McCain-Palin campaign. In order to take that position he apparently left his previous job... (3)
- as a strategic consultant at Davis Manafort, Inc. Yes that's right, he was an influential part of Paul Manafort's firm. Not only that but he also worked with Manafort, Gates, and several Russians on a major deal in Ukraine (4)
- Recall that on July 26th of this year, Paul Manafort's home was raided. In the raid Mueller's team was said to have obtained thousands of emails, many related to a business deal which went sour between the Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska, Manafort, Ferry and others. (5)
- Deripaska basically felt he was conned out of $18 million by Manafort and his team. In a court filing in the Caymen island, where Deripaska decided to wind down his relationship with Manafort's company, which included Perry... (6)
- his attorneys name the Manafort men "involved in furthering the Partnership's investment program included Rick Davis, Rick Gates, Paul Manafort, Alexander Balanutsa, ---Christian Ferry--- Philip Griffin, and Konstantin Kilimnik". (7)
- One email recovered by Mueller's team, which Manafort sent to Kilimnik in April, read:
I assume you have shown our friends my media coverage, right?
Absolutely, Kilimnik responds,Every article.
How do we use to get whole Manafort asks.Has OVD operation seen? (8)
- OVD stands for 'Oleg Vladimirovich Deripaska'.
Then on July 7, 2016 Reportedly using a Trump campaign account, Manafort continues to send emails to Kilimnik. Referring to the possibility of briefing Oleg Deripaska about the presidential campaign (9)
- So now lets Return to Christian Ferry. He was seemingly a very key figure in one of the main deals that Mueller is currently investigating related to Manafort and Deripaska. Ferry also happens to be incredibly close to Graham and was his campaign manager only 2 years ago. (10)
- This almost HAS TO be the connection which ties it all together. Ferry likely found out that he was under investigation, which either led Graham to figure out that he too may be under investigation.Graham then abruptly turned against Mueller & the Russia Investigation. (11) END
- (Bonus) Here is a contract with all their names on it: https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/949477133507850240/STLtZxPv?format=jpg&name=600x314
- (BONUS 2) In Ukraine, Ferry was part of a Davis Manafort team that advised Yanukovich, the countrys then-prime minister, whose pro-Russian party made gains in the 2006 parliamentary elections. So Ferry was lobbying for the guy the American government opposed.
- I want to provide a bit of an update. @EdKrassen and I reached out to @christianwferry and he has stated that he is not currently under investigation. Ferry also states that he stopped his work for Davis Manafort in 2006 and does not know why his name was listed on the document
- Also want to add that Ferry was very open with me and very willing to answer my questions. Just want to be fair here. @christianwferry
dem4decades
(11,241 posts)Time to ask him if he or anyone in his campaign has ever been involved with any Russian .
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,430 posts)He has done a 180 too. In Aug he said on TV that he supported releasing the Simpson (Fusion GPS) testimony and Hatch did too. Why did they flip since then and now are investigating Simpson and Steele about the dossier and NOT releasing any of the testimony. They are obstructing justice and attempting to discredit and derail the investigations in both chambers. WHY? $$$$/blackmail!
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)up to the task and by now the corruption is woven so deep, none of them will tell the truth.
Saving ones ass is their job now.
OnDoutside
(19,906 posts)a - Ferry likely found out that he was under investigation,
b - which either led Graham to figure out that he too may be under investigation.
Why would Graham be under investigation from what Ferry was up to ?
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)Donald Trump and the political action committees for Mitch McConnell, Marco Rubio, Scott Walker, Lindsey Graham, John Kasich and John McCain accepted $7.35 million in contributions from a Ukrainian-born oligarch who is the business partner of two of Russian president Vladimir Putin's favorite oligarchs and a Russian government bank.
During the 2015-2016 election season, Ukrainian-born billionaire Leonard "Len" Blavatnik contributed $6.35 million to leading Republican candidates and incumbent senators. Mitch McConnell was the top recipient of Blavatnik's donations, collecting $2.5 million for his GOP Senate Leadership Fund under the names of two of Blavatnik's holding companies, Access Industries and AI Altep Holdings, according to Federal Election Commission documents and OpenSecrets.org....more
https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2017/08/03/tangled-web-connects-russian-oligarch-money-gop-campaigns
OnDoutside
(19,906 posts)came from an account with Balavatnik's name on it, I don't see a there there. As much as I would wish there to be.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)A huge part of this stuff is the illegal routing of money from Russia to the west, using major institutions like Deutsche Bank to launder the money (something they've been fined $630m for doing). If the investigation can show that the money didn't originate with Blavatnik but rather from Russia, then it could be a very serious issue for those involved.
OnDoutside
(19,906 posts)I'll happily put my hand up to say I was wrong, I don't see the Russians being THAT stupid (the Republicans, yes) in transferring over money saying "Bribery Money".
I am convinced that Graham's sudden Trumpine Conversion is indicative of something highly suspicious, but I'm not sure this is it.
lindysalsagal
(20,440 posts)Right? Why aren't we arresting all these crooks? Oh, right. Because HRC's emails.
lastlib
(22,979 posts)eom
Kajun Gal
(1,907 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)JI7
(89,173 posts)and i think grassley just won in 2016.
i don't think it's just that.
OnDoutside
(19,906 posts)and have jumped into the conspiracy theory sick bucket, in order to spread the shit and try to halt the slide amongst the rank and file Republican voters. "Oh look the Democrats are as bad".