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RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 07:16 PM Jan 2018

Is THIS what happened to turn Graham and Grassley?




(Speculation probably not be definitive, but the additional connections are interesting.)

- Up until recently Lindsey Graham was one of Trump's harshest critics and one of Mueller's biggest supporters. Something has happened over the last 2 months or so which has suddenly cause @LindseyGrahamSC to make an abrupt turn.
That something I believe may be related to.. (2)

- his 2016 campaign manager named Christian Ferry @christianwferry. Ferry was and still is very close to Graham. In 2008 Ferry became the Deputy Campaign Manager for the McCain-Palin campaign. In order to take that position he apparently left his previous job... (3)

- as a strategic consultant at Davis Manafort, Inc. Yes that's right, he was an influential part of Paul Manafort's firm. Not only that but he also worked with Manafort, Gates, and several Russians on a major deal in Ukraine (4)

- Recall that on July 26th of this year, Paul Manafort's home was raided. In the raid Mueller's team was said to have obtained thousands of emails, many related to a business deal which went sour between the Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska, Manafort, Ferry and others. (5)

- Deripaska basically felt he was conned out of $18 million by Manafort and his team. In a court filing in the Caymen island, where Deripaska decided to wind down his relationship with Manafort's company, which included Perry... (6)

- his attorneys name the Manafort men "involved in furthering the Partnership's investment program included Rick Davis, Rick Gates, Paul Manafort, Alexander Balanutsa, ---Christian Ferry--- Philip Griffin, and Konstantin Kilimnik". (7)

- One email recovered by Mueller's team, which Manafort sent to Kilimnik in April, read:
“I assume you have shown our friends my media coverage, right?”
“Absolutely,” Kilimnik responds,“Every article.”
“How do we use to get whole” Manafort asks.“Has OVD operation seen?” (8)

- OVD stands for 'Oleg Vladimirovich Deripaska'.
Then on July 7, 2016 Reportedly using a Trump campaign account, Manafort continues to send emails to Kilimnik. Referring to the possibility of briefing Oleg Deripaska about the presidential campaign (9)

- So now lets Return to Christian Ferry. He was seemingly a very key figure in one of the main deals that Mueller is currently investigating related to Manafort and Deripaska. Ferry also happens to be incredibly close to Graham and was his campaign manager only 2 years ago. (10)

- This almost HAS TO be the connection which ties it all together. Ferry likely found out that he was under investigation, which either led Graham to figure out that he too may be under investigation.Graham then abruptly turned against Mueller & the Russia Investigation. (11) END

- (Bonus) Here is a contract with all their names on it: https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/949477133507850240/STLtZxPv?format=jpg&name=600x314

- (BONUS 2) In Ukraine, Ferry was part of a Davis Manafort team that advised Yanukovich, the country’s then-prime minister, whose pro-Russian party made gains in the 2006 parliamentary elections. So Ferry was lobbying for the guy the American government opposed.

- I want to provide a bit of an update. @EdKrassen and I reached out to @christianwferry and he has stated that he is not currently under investigation. Ferry also states that he stopped his work for Davis Manafort in 2006 and does not know why his name was listed on the document

- Also want to add that Ferry was very open with me and very willing to answer my questions. Just want to be fair here. @christianwferry
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dem4decades

(11,208 posts)
1. Graham was always fond of the TV camera,
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 07:20 PM
Jan 2018

Time to ask him if he or anyone in his campaign has ever been involved with any Russian .

BigmanPigman

(51,368 posts)
3. Did Grassely have any connections as well?
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 07:30 PM
Jan 2018

He has done a 180 too. In Aug he said on TV that he supported releasing the Simpson (Fusion GPS) testimony and Hatch did too. Why did they flip since then and now are investigating Simpson and Steele about the dossier and NOT releasing any of the testimony. They are obstructing justice and attempting to discredit and derail the investigations in both chambers. WHY? $$$$/blackmail!

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
4. It is beyond confronting them. The media has not stepped
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 07:31 PM
Jan 2018

up to the task and by now the corruption is woven so deep, none of them will tell the truth.

Saving one’s ass is their job now.

OnDoutside

(19,890 posts)
5. I don't see where the jump from a to b is here
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 07:34 PM
Jan 2018

a - Ferry likely found out that he was under investigation,

b - which either led Graham to figure out that he too may be under investigation.

Why would Graham be under investigation from what Ferry was up to ?

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
7. here
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 07:48 PM
Jan 2018


Donald Trump and the political action committees for Mitch McConnell, Marco Rubio, Scott Walker, Lindsey Graham, John Kasich and John McCain accepted $7.35 million in contributions from a Ukrainian-born oligarch who is the business partner of two of Russian president Vladimir Putin's favorite oligarchs and a Russian government bank.

During the 2015-2016 election season, Ukrainian-born billionaire Leonard "Len" Blavatnik contributed $6.35 million to leading Republican candidates and incumbent senators. Mitch McConnell was the top recipient of Blavatnik's donations, collecting $2.5 million for his GOP Senate Leadership Fund under the names of two of Blavatnik's holding companies, Access Industries and AI Altep Holdings, according to Federal Election Commission documents and OpenSecrets.org....more

https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2017/08/03/tangled-web-connects-russian-oligarch-money-gop-campaigns

OnDoutside

(19,890 posts)
12. Blavatnik has a US passport. Even Adam Schiff said so. If the money
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 03:26 AM
Jan 2018

came from an account with Balavatnik's name on it, I don't see a there there. As much as I would wish there to be.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
13. It depends where the money originated from.
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 05:30 AM
Jan 2018

A huge part of this stuff is the illegal routing of money from Russia to the west, using major institutions like Deutsche Bank to launder the money (something they've been fined $630m for doing). If the investigation can show that the money didn't originate with Blavatnik but rather from Russia, then it could be a very serious issue for those involved.

OnDoutside

(19,890 posts)
14. The guy is a multi-billionaire. Even if it were $50m, that's change to someone like him, so while
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 06:04 AM
Jan 2018

I'll happily put my hand up to say I was wrong, I don't see the Russians being THAT stupid (the Republicans, yes) in transferring over money saying "Bribery Money".

I am convinced that Graham's sudden Trumpine Conversion is indicative of something highly suspicious, but I'm not sure this is it.

lindysalsagal

(20,318 posts)
6. Wait: it's supposed to be illegal for our legislators to have such international business deals, rig
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 07:41 PM
Jan 2018

Right? Why aren't we arresting all these crooks? Oh, right. Because HRC's emails.

JI7

(89,151 posts)
15. i don't think either are up for 2018
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 06:05 AM
Jan 2018

and i think grassley just won in 2016.

i don't think it's just that.

OnDoutside

(19,890 posts)
16. I think there's a strong possibility of this. Graham, Grassley etc see the GOP going down in flames
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 06:08 AM
Jan 2018

and have jumped into the conspiracy theory sick bucket, in order to spread the shit and try to halt the slide amongst the rank and file Republican voters. "Oh look the Democrats are as bad".

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