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(17,235 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,280 posts)I like Oprah as a tv personality, but now more than ever the presidency needs a real professional who understands the wheels and gears of government.
Generic Brad
(14,270 posts)I am not familiar with it.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,280 posts)The point is that she's a tv celebrity and we don't need another one of those, even a sane one.
shenmue
(38,503 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,280 posts)That's not a qualification for the presidency, or wouldn't be if Trump hadn't set the bar so low.
joshdawg
(2,637 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)What do you propose are the specific and relevant qualification for the presidency?
alarimer
(16,245 posts)And prior experience running for and winning elected office, no matter what it is.
You have to spend some time in the trenches.
Jesus, the celebrity worship in this country is fucking unbearable.
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)surround herself with the best people, unlike this charlatan.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,280 posts)Hell, I have more experience than she does; at least I've worked for a couple of government agencies, and I, too, would surround myself with good people. I just don't have money, charisma or a talk show. I am not qualified to be president and neither is Oprah. The bar has been lowered so far because of Trump that we seem to be willing to settle for anybody who is sane and can deliver a good speech, and that's ridiculous.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Oprah Winfree?.
womanofthehills
(8,584 posts)If that's the only way to get a dem president, I say go for it.
She speaks well and has COMPASSION!
murielm99
(30,657 posts)I don't trust inexperienced celebrities to be President. Let her continue to do good deeds where she is. If a qualified Democrat wants to use her abilities in an official capacity, that would be fine. But she should not hold the highest office in the land and the most powerful job in the world.
Of course she would be better than 45. But that is not giving her much credit. Nearly anyone would be better.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Shes a fine lady. I remember her as a local TV personality in Baltimore.
But she does have something of a penchant for quacks and hucksters.
longship
(40,416 posts)Only a lunatic would want her in the White House.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)MelissaB
(16,420 posts)I'd really like to see someone with political experience run.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,280 posts)Just like hoping the person at the front of the airplane you're traveling on has experience as a pilot, and the person who's about to operate on you has experience as a surgeon, and the person who's about to defend you in court has experience as a lawyer. The presidency is too important to be turned over to a charismatic amateur with no experience in government, even a nice liberal amateur. I want a professional as president as much as I want a professional pilot, doctor or lawyer. Isn't the job at least that important?
mvd
(65,148 posts)That's always the stereotype we are fighting. I do like Oprah though and would support her if she does get the nomination.
VMA131Marine
(4,124 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,280 posts)VMA131Marine
(4,124 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)bdamomma
(63,658 posts)in politics and foreign affairs. Haven't we learned anything???
I agree with your post. Would you go to a baker to have surgery????
DURHAM D
(32,596 posts)Unless Gayle King says something it doesn't matter.
applegrove
(118,022 posts)to earth enough to explain it to all, even the GOP base.
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)applegrove
(118,022 posts)Hillary could not be herself during the campaign. Bet she regrets it now. Hillary is a delight when she's being herself.
shenmue
(38,503 posts)applegrove
(118,022 posts)the top in the electoral college.
thbobby
(1,474 posts)How fitting
An intelligent, patriotic, philanthropic, black male president.
An equally intelligent, patriotic, philanthropic, black female president.
With a stupid, traitorous, thieving orange president preaching white supremacy stuck between them.
Portrait of America.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,280 posts)with exactly zero experience in government or politics. The big difference between her and Obama - and it's a very, very big difference - is that Obama got a law degree, taught constitutional law, got elected to the Illinois senate and then the U.S. Senate. By the time he was elected president he knew very well how the government works. Brava to Oprah for her good works but I would absolutely not support her candidacy.
thbobby
(1,474 posts)And relevant. But we are stuck in a time when celebrity (Reagan, Trump) carries too much status in an election. But, your point is valid. There are many Dems who are better qualified. Perhaps what I should have said is "if she was the candidate I would vote for her over any GOP candidate".
shenmue
(38,503 posts)Useless and boring.
alarimer
(16,245 posts)I'm so DONE with fucking celebrity worship in this useless, pathetic country. She can get in fucking line behind any number of previously elected officials, who have some experience CRAFTING PUBLIC POLICY.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,750 posts)Of course what we need is another person with zero experience in government or public policy. That's of course a great way to run a country.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,280 posts)and everybody's OMG she's gotta be president!!!
No, just no.
oasis
(49,152 posts)interview back when the "Gropenator" ran for California's governor.
deurbano
(2,891 posts)(and overturn an election that had just happened) for absolutely no reason... except that they could.
And Oprah (like Leno) gave that ass-wipe a forum. And look where we are now. They just sink lower and lower.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,750 posts)will notice that some Democrat somewhere does something a Democrat ought to do, and IMMEDIATELY thinks that person should run for President in 2020.
It is obvious to the most casual observer that most here haven't a clue how electoral politics actually works.
procon
(15,805 posts)with no political experience? Kudos to Opera for all her accomplishments, but just because she is on our side doesn't qualify her to be the president. She is more effective as an activist or a supporter of the Dem politicians who actually are prepared for national politics.
tanyev
(42,360 posts)But shed be a hella lot better than the PGOTUS we have now.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)donkeypoofed
(2,187 posts)I disagree with most here in that Oprah would make a fantastic candidate !! She has a built in base, is very smart and is blessedly normal. She IS actually rich and could fund her own campaign (and not actually just lend it money). She is smart enough to surround herself with competent people and would realize that she would have lots to learn - and then get out of bed for more than a few hours and actually do the friggin job! I would pit her against Drumpf any time!!
She could save us all. I have been waiting and hoping she would run !!
Please , Oprah - save us !!!! RUN for office.
As an aside , wouldn't it be delightful to see dumbling's face to learn he'd be running against a black woman who's more famous and rich than him?!?! That would make it worthwhile all on it's own !!
Little Star
(17,055 posts)She's intelligent, kind and a nice human being. I'd vote for her in a heartbeat.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,280 posts)All of those fine qualities do not necessarily make a competent president. I would not vote for her unless there wasn't anybody else, and I'd try very hard to be sure whoever wins the primary is somebody who actually knows how government works. I'm sure there are many nice, intelligent people who also have relevant experience.
womanofthehills
(8,584 posts)I think you might just have to be a celebrity to win in the USA. She is smart and would hire good people.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)But you do NOT want me as president.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,750 posts)both electoral politics and running things at the governmental level?
What? Being a TV celebrity isn't quite the same? Really?
bdamomma
(63,658 posts)but not as President. Leave it to those who have the experience in politics and foreign matters. Please.
OhioBlue
(5,126 posts)The notion that we don't need another billionaire celebrity seems to imply that she is like tRump, which she isn't. She is a self-made billionaire. She is empathetic, intelligent and charitable. She retains a connection to people that are less fortunate than her and feels the obligation that to those whom much is given, much is required.
I believe Dem primary voters are more intelligent and do more research than R primary voters. If her primary campaign was full of stunts, filled her campaign with sycophants and amateurs, and demonstrated a lack of knowledge when it came to foreign, domestic and economic policy during the debates, I would expect that she wouldn't be catapulted to the front like the deplorables did with tRump.
DonCoquixote
(13,615 posts)she would be a major step up from trump, and sad to say, from many others.
Initech
(99,915 posts)If there's one person who the GOP hate more than Hillary Clinton, it's Oprah. She would get demolished in a general election. Just fucking hell no!!!
bdamomma
(63,658 posts)they would applaud her running if it meant another win for Trump.
I like Oprah she's wonderful and all of that but we need a person who will start off running and getting things done. Plus does anyone what that filthy Congress to devourer her??? They will too.
Steven Maurer
(455 posts)Not this time, no. Sorry.
I think Kamala Harris has the best shot, but we'll see.
jmowreader
(50,453 posts)And hangs out with antivax personality Jenny McCarthy?
NO THANK YOU!
Quixote1818
(28,904 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,129 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,369 posts)NBachers
(17,007 posts)Could she actually win the election for the Santa Monica City Council; would the City Council members appoint her as Mayor?
There's a lot of fluid, structured, nuts 'n' bolts wonky stuff involved in politics- grindingly detailed, intensely boring, 525-pages of arcane legal & economic details stuff. You really need to know all these things to be a good effective president.
trusty elf
(7,349 posts)Tikki
(14,539 posts)about endorsing Schwarzenegger and does she
feel she is a good judge of character?
Tikki
angrychair
(8,594 posts)Its insulting that a single member of this board would give any serious consideration to this nonsense.
A rich celebrity is the LAST FUCKING THING the Democrats need to nominate for POTUS.
We are getting brutally ripped inside out by the orange vomit monster and the last thing Democrats should do, if they ever want to be taken seriously, is even consider nominating a rich, however nice, celebrity to ANY office.
Are you people listening to yourselves? Absolutely ridiculous!
Sharpshooter007
(79 posts)Large swaths of people don't care about policy, they only care about personality. I used to think this only applied to GOP voters, but alas, the power of celebrity applies to us too.
I fully expect a hugely charismatic celebrity with no experience in governing to run in 2020 or 2024 and hijack our party.
Its what the people want, they want charisma, not substance.
longship
(40,416 posts)Ask her if she still supports fucking John of God, the kook Brazilian holy man and "psychic surgeon" who bilks thousands out of millions.
Oprah Winfrey is a babbling idiot. She loves her some pseudo science. She explicitly supports quack medicine.
I dont want her anywhere near government.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,283 posts)I hope she doesn't create The Oprah Party.
If she wins the Democratic nomination, then I'll vote for her.
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)We need experience to rebuild this country.
GoCubsGo
(32,061 posts)What qualifies her to be President? That she gave a good speech at an actors' award show?
bdamomma
(63,658 posts)would people think the same if Meryl Streep torn again into tRump. Let Meryl run for President???
Political experience matters that should be #1
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,355 posts)PRESIDENT COMANCHO!!!!