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tinrobot

(10,882 posts)
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 02:43 PM Jan 2018

Excellent analysis on the Fusion GPS Testimony

Not sure who Elizabeth McLaughlin is, but she pretty much nails it in her analysis...

THREAD ON FUSION GPS. I spent the afternoon reading the transcript that Senator Feinstein released today. Here are the salient points, with citations. I am a lawyer and CEO. I was a securities fraud and human rights litigator in DC/NY for over 15 years. Read on for takeaways.

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5/ On the Fusion GPS retention on Trump: "it evolved somewhat quickly into issues of his relationships to organized crime figures . . ." (Tr. 61-62)

6/ Fusion GPS concluded early in their investigation that Trump has serious ties to Russian organized crime, including money in his companies from "Kazakhstan, among other places, and that some of it you just couldn't account for." (Tr. 67-70)
7/ Fusion GPS hired Steele as a part of "drilling down" on specific areas of concern about Trump's business dealings internationally, and Steele was not the only subcontractor hired. (Tr. 76-78)

8/ Asked about Christopher Steele as an investigator, Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS described him as a "quality" investigator in high profile situations and "a boy scout." (Tr. 81-82)

9/ Fusion sent Steele into Russia with a broad assignment to look into Trump's dealings in Russia. And what they found was that "it wasn't a giant secret" that "Donald Trump had a relationship with the Kremlin." “People were talking about it freely.”

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45/ And then there is this explosive bit: Steele and Simpson weren't sure that @Comey EVEN KNEW ABOUT THE ALLEGATIONS. Which would explain a lot. An awful lot. (Tr. 220-221)



The entire thread is here:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/950884746082562048.html

Read the whole thing.

I am simply floored. After the past year, I expect it to be bad. After reading the analysis, it makes a very convincing case that we have a compromised government. Sobering.
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Excellent analysis on the Fusion GPS Testimony (Original Post) tinrobot Jan 2018 OP
Thanks! I was going to post this and couldnt find it- smart woman, she is! bettyellen Jan 2018 #1
I know who she is... seshers Jan 2018 #2
The part about Comey possibly not knowing is new... tinrobot Jan 2018 #3
exactly right. Justice Jan 2018 #10
Yes, cilla4progress Jan 2018 #4
Did Fusion outsource to Steele to avoid potential bias? ProudLib72 Jan 2018 #15
I don't think so. cilla4progress Jan 2018 #17
Rachel should see this. triron Jan 2018 #5
Her FB folowers have forwarded it to Joy and Rachel. seshers Jan 2018 #6
I wish Rachel would stage a Reconstruction of key parts where she only has the transcript OnDoutside Jan 2018 #7
I wish that were on a Burma Shave series Jane Austin Jan 2018 #8
k&r BSdetect Jan 2018 #9
Who's responsibility would it have been to inform Comey? jalan48 Jan 2018 #11
I'm guessing whoever stopped that info moving up the chain, Volaris Jan 2018 #12
That would make sense. I'm not sure who had the power over the info within the government. jalan48 Jan 2018 #14
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2018 #24
I read the whole testimony yesterday mgardener Jan 2018 #13
"My other thought was, what about his kids?" BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #18
"Steele was not the only subcontractor hired" BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #16
I'm having a blast reading the testimony. MontanaMama Jan 2018 #19
+1,"any investigative reporter could have done what he did...and they didn't" the M$M was stuck on uponit7771 Jan 2018 #25
YES! MontanaMama Jan 2018 #26
"I mean, Jesus. If he isn't impeached after this, America is toast." - Wake up! erronis Jan 2018 #20
only criminals would be willing to launder money thru the moron. pansypoo53219 Jan 2018 #21
Interesting take 35/36 that mole was not Papadopoulos. Enoki33 Jan 2018 #22
Mahalo, tinrobot! Cha Jan 2018 #23
Here's another excellent thread on it: Saviolo Jan 2018 #27
Indeed we do have a compromised government nm AmericanActivist Jan 2018 #28
K&R drm604 Jan 2018 #29

cilla4progress

(24,701 posts)
4. Yes,
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 03:06 PM
Jan 2018

much of this came up on MSNBC shows last night, but you (and McLauglin) add some important details. Looking forward to reading her thread.

Here’s the conundrum: Americans need to understand that the FBI is not a monolith. That is, there are biases and I daresay forces on both ends of the political spectrum there.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
15. Did Fusion outsource to Steele to avoid potential bias?
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 05:02 PM
Jan 2018

I mean, I'm sure we have our own ex-intel people who could have done the job. I also know that Steele was known to have the right contacts for the job, and that is the reason I keep hearing for choosing him. But I wonder if Fusion wanted to avoid any American agents predisposed to bias.

OnDoutside

(19,943 posts)
7. I wish Rachel would stage a Reconstruction of key parts where she only has the transcript
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 03:43 PM
Jan 2018

During the investigation of Rezoning Corruption in Ireland, they used actors to voice key parts of the proceedings, as they didn't have camera access. It made a big dramatic difference.

http://www.rte.ie/archives/exhibitions/681-history-of-rte/707-rte-1990s/327491-tribunal-re-enactments/

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
12. I'm guessing whoever stopped that info moving up the chain,
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 04:52 PM
Jan 2018

In an effort to keep Candidate Trump from harm pre-election...
Party over Country is what I'm guessing?
But it's just a guess.

mgardener

(1,810 posts)
13. I read the whole testimony yesterday
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 04:53 PM
Jan 2018

This was an excellent analysis of the main points.
Not a lawyer, but what worries me is Trumps ties to organized crime in Russia. And the potential for blackmail.
And money laundering. His golf courses outside the US are not making money. He's been bankrupt 4 times. He owned casinos. And we the people have not seen his tax returns.
Who else owns a piece of Trump and what are they getting in return?

My other thought was, what about his kids? Are they into the same thing daddy was into and does that make Trump even more vulnerable? Nobody is talking about that. They too have been to many of the same places dear old dad has been to !

BumRushDaShow

(128,258 posts)
18. "My other thought was, what about his kids?"
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 05:10 PM
Jan 2018

Forget the kids and look to the "kid-in-law" Jared! He is the biggest one in deep doo doo with his 666 Fifth Ave. fiasco.

BumRushDaShow

(128,258 posts)
16. "Steele was not the only subcontractor hired"
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 05:07 PM
Jan 2018

So who ELSE was out there investigating and could/would they be brought in to testify?

MontanaMama

(23,285 posts)
19. I'm having a blast reading the testimony.
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 05:22 PM
Jan 2018

For me, what was a mind blower was how all this information was so simply and easily uncovered. Glenn Wilson's area of expertise is public records. He immerses himself in information that is available to any of us willing to do the work. He uncovered bits and pieces of Dotard's life here in the states and hired subcontractor Christopher Steele to do the same in Russia because that's his wheelhouse. I don't think Wilson thought he'd actually find what he ended up finding. Bottom line is that any investigative reporter could have done what he did...and they didn't. So, I agree with your post. I am floored!! First at how the MSM profoundly let us down and equally, how the majority holding power in DC is compromised beyond reason. We're in real trouble. the 2018 elections are crucial but even if we take over the House, we will not rid ourselves of the problem.

I'm not done reading the testimony yet but it is riveting. There's a lot of "there" there. Recommended reading without a doubt. The cast of characters is unbelievable. The story is just shocking IMO.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
25. +1,"any investigative reporter could have done what he did...and they didn't" the M$M was stuck on
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 09:04 AM
Jan 2018

... stupid emails to even think that a person who constantly stiffs subcontractors could be crooked.

MontanaMama

(23,285 posts)
26. YES!
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 09:52 AM
Jan 2018

Common sense stuff. Except...emails. Not to mention, the guy controlling the narrative, the guy who can't quit blabbing about how rich he is - doesn't release his taxes...holy hell, THAT isn't suspicious. Give me a break. Fusion thought that was incredibly suspicious. They procured tax bills...easy peazy and one thing let to another.

erronis

(15,160 posts)
20. "I mean, Jesus. If he isn't impeached after this, America is toast." - Wake up!
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 05:23 PM
Jan 2018

17/ And so they set out to determine if what they were learning was credible. (I mean, Jesus. If he isn't impeached after this, America is toast.)

Cha

(296,679 posts)
23. Mahalo, tinrobot!
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 02:42 AM
Jan 2018
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