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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 01:33 PM Jan 2018

What "advantage do the Democrats have in the Electoral College" ?

Three times the GOP won the Electoral College and the election while the Democrats won the popular vote, two times in the last five elections.


Why isn't anybody questioning this mamaluke ?

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What "advantage do the Democrats have in the Electoral College" ? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2018 OP
They won't even ask him how he came to that conclusion. rogue emissary Jan 2018 #1
so each state burnbaby Jan 2018 #2
EC is determined by the population of each state. LeftInTX Jan 2018 #5
right burnbaby Jan 2018 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author mr_lebowski Jan 2018 #8
it doesn't matter how many people voted in CA burnbaby Jan 2018 #11
Popular vote doesn't really matter bearsfootball516 Jan 2018 #12
Of course youre 100% right ... mr_lebowski Jan 2018 #15
electoral votes are determined by representation in congress, not the population. unblock Jan 2018 #9
Except the # of EC votes varies by state population n2doc Jan 2018 #10
I doubt that any of our news organizations have the budget or Arkansas Granny Jan 2018 #3
CA, NY, IL D_Master81 Jan 2018 #4
it's really just that the "solid/likely blue" electoral votes are more than the "solid/likely red" unblock Jan 2018 #7
In 2000 the FL GOP flat out cheated Persondem Jan 2018 #13
we've had a lot of people questioning this NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #14

rogue emissary

(3,148 posts)
1. They won't even ask him how he came to that conclusion.
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 01:39 PM
Jan 2018

The press just accepts it as a fact and moves on to one of a thousand other lies he routinely spews out.

 

burnbaby

(685 posts)
2. so each state
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 01:44 PM
Jan 2018

gets the same representation. That's how I remember it being taught. if not NYC and CA would be running the country

LeftInTX

(25,245 posts)
5. EC is determined by the population of each state.
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 01:54 PM
Jan 2018

CA has the most.
TX has the 2nd most
FL and NY are tied for 3rd.

Response to burnbaby (Reply #6)

 

burnbaby

(685 posts)
11. it doesn't matter how many people voted in CA
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 02:14 PM
Jan 2018

they still get i think it's 50 EC votes. I'm not sure if the 3 million is just for CA or the country

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
12. Popular vote doesn't really matter
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 02:17 PM
Jan 2018

Hillary had 3 million more votes because she ran up huge margins in places like California and New York, but you still only get a specific number of electoral votes no matter how many votes you get in those states. Then she didn't have good turnout in swing states like Michigan and Pennsylvania.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
15. Of course youre 100% right ...
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 03:19 PM
Jan 2018

Dunno what I was thinking, just woke up, no coffee yet ... deleted the post.

unblock

(52,196 posts)
9. electoral votes are determined by representation in congress, not the population.
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 02:13 PM
Jan 2018

if a state has 10 representatives and 2 senators, then it have 12 electoral votes.


so it is roughly based on population, but smaller states have an advantage due to the extra two votes each state gets simply for being a state.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
10. Except the # of EC votes varies by state population
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 02:14 PM
Jan 2018

Because the US capped the total at 525 back early last century. Number of EC representatives per voter varies widely

The average electoral vote represents 436,000 people, but that number rises and falls per state depending on that state’s population over 18 years of age. (The map above shows the population 18 years and older per electoral vote by state.) The states with the fewest people per electoral vote, and therefore the highest “vote power,” are Wyoming, Vermont, and North Dakota. In Wyoming, there are 143,000 people for each of its three electoral votes. The states with the weakest votes are New York, Florida, and California. These states each have around 500,000 people for each electoral vote.

See
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/map_of_the_week/2012/11/presidential_election_a_map_showing_the_vote_power_of_all_50_states.html

Arkansas Granny

(31,514 posts)
3. I doubt that any of our news organizations have the budget or
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 01:44 PM
Jan 2018

the staff necessary to perform that task. Lies issue from his mouth every time he breathes.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
4. CA, NY, IL
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 01:48 PM
Jan 2018

The GOP media machine will say that these 3 states = 100 EC votes, so a DEM only has to win another 170 outside of those 3 states.

unblock

(52,196 posts)
7. it's really just that the "solid/likely blue" electoral votes are more than the "solid/likely red"
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 02:11 PM
Jan 2018

so republicans have to get more of the "leans" and "toss-ups" than democrats.


it's not a structural advantage democrats have, we have the advantage because we're the preferred party.


"waahhh! this race is not fair because the other guy is faster than me! wahhh!"

Persondem

(1,936 posts)
13. In 2000 the FL GOP flat out cheated
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 02:23 PM
Jan 2018

plus the SCOTUS selected the president.

Not sure it's all on the Electoral College.

If less than 100k voters across 3 states hadn't been conned we wouldn't have twitler for president now.

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