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IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:26 AM Jan 2018

Is anyone sharing my hopelessness tonight?

I am in my 30s, so I had never lived under such an oppressive, racist and dangerous presidency. Not even W or Reagan, in my view. I feel we are witnessing something deeply horrible and transformative, as Trump has openly declared people of color the undesirable other. He is going after all of us hard, starting with the most vulnerable- undocumented and temporarily legal migrants of color. These are millions of colored folks this bastard is about to kick out. He is also going after LEGAL colored immigrants (my dad is a permanent resident from the Dominican Republic). Who says millions of legal immigrants will not wind up fucked up by the system because of some racist, shitty scheme? Where does it end? It doesn't. As long as they have power, the white nationalist garbage that rules us will not stop until they start putting Americans of color in "our place".

This shit is bad and it's getting to me. I had to vent.

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Is anyone sharing my hopelessness tonight? (Original Post) IluvPitties Jan 2018 OP
Lest we forget, Nixon was tossed out for less than #TrumpRussia, all without a shithole moment. L. Coyote Jan 2018 #1
Let his red-eyed panic be your beacon. Cracklin Charlie Jan 2018 #23
Nope DonaldsRump Jan 2018 #2
+1000. We're still the nation who elected Obama. Hortensis Jan 2018 #47
Oh, please..life can produce worse scenarios. angstlessk Jan 2018 #3
People wish to be scared for their father ? Feel vulnerable ? Hopeless ? How Lucky lunasun Jan 2018 #14
Your Hopelessness Is What I Call 'Demoralization'.... global1 Jan 2018 #4
I guess that's it. It's like I am tired as hell. IluvPitties Jan 2018 #5
Understandable. Rest. Recharge. Feel free to take breaks from news and media. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #25
Wow! Thanks for this comment. I was reading AmericanActivist Jan 2018 #32
They had the smarts to use dog whistles elfin Jan 2018 #6
I am not hopeless Phoenix61 Jan 2018 #7
Don't worry we're gonna be OK. Your generation will be taking over and I believe most of Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #8
Don't feel powerless or hopeless! Snarkoleptic Jan 2018 #9
No. Demtexan Jan 2018 #10
I am feeling quite the opposite Generic Brad Jan 2018 #11
Cmon buck up little camper njhoneybadger Jan 2018 #12
Nope Corgigal Jan 2018 #13
Keep your eyes on the prize. roamer65 Jan 2018 #15
Not in the slightest.... alittlelark Jan 2018 #16
yep. n/t LuckyCharms Jan 2018 #17
I know how you feel. smirkymonkey Jan 2018 #18
there are more of us who have your back than there are vile assholes like them Skittles Jan 2018 #19
Nope. We are fighting the final battle. You can help GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #20
Thanks, everyone! You guys are awesome. IluvPitties Jan 2018 #21
I have had many days like yours since November 9, 2016. Boomerproud Jan 2018 #22
It is not hopeless. Seemed hopeless under Reagan, Nixon, W. USA bounced back. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #24
Put your anger to work by helping to flip congress to Democratic blue. oasis Jan 2018 #26
Yes. No, no, Im fine. No, actually, I cant think straight and can barely fucking breathe. Wait, no, Leghorn21 Jan 2018 #27
Hopelessness? No, anger... but than my yuiyoshida Jan 2018 #28
Im really angry and trying to put it to good use. onecaliberal Jan 2018 #29
+1000 GallopingGhost Jan 2018 #33
Get involved with your local Democratic Party. SunSeeker Jan 2018 #30
Here's where we need to focus: turning over Congress. At least one House. pnwmom Jan 2018 #31
I'm also in my 30s. Jspur Jan 2018 #34
That side of America will always be there... HipChick Jan 2018 #45
excellent post, Jspur Skittles Jan 2018 #48
Trump was like this all along. Jane Austin Jan 2018 #35
I agree eyeofnewt Jan 2018 #41
Get angry MFM008 Jan 2018 #36
colored? Really, using that word is as offensive as it gets.. HipChick Jan 2018 #37
Hardly. Demit Jan 2018 #38
It's a racial slur... HipChick Jan 2018 #40
It is hardly as offensive as it gets, is what I mean. Demit Jan 2018 #43
it's a racial slur.. HipChick Jan 2018 #44
I find calling women "chicks" offensive. Demit Jan 2018 #46
I simply have no respect for the Presidency. joshcryer Jan 2018 #39
Trump is the worst president in my lifetime. Don't be hopeless. It wasn't that long ago that we Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #42

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
1. Lest we forget, Nixon was tossed out for less than #TrumpRussia, all without a shithole moment.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:30 AM
Jan 2018

Patience is a virtue. Our form of justice isn't of the overnight junta type.
Albeit, the idea of Trump in his pajamas on a couch red-eye flight to Moscow is rather appealing tonight.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
47. +1000. We're still the nation who elected Obama.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 08:11 AM
Jan 2018

It took a lot of seditious behaviors maximizing weaknesses of the system and electorate to elevate this depraved buffoon to the presidency. As it is, there's a lot more buyers' remorse out there than is admitted.

Frankly, I worry far more about congress and state governments. No buyers' remorse there at all. Only demands for return on investment.

global1

(25,241 posts)
4. Your Hopelessness Is What I Call 'Demoralization'....
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:31 AM
Jan 2018

there seems to be a concerted effort on the part of Trump and the Repugs to 'demoralize' the American People every way they can and every chance they get.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
25. Understandable. Rest. Recharge. Feel free to take breaks from news and media.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 02:00 AM
Jan 2018

Breaks of hours to days or even weeks if necessary.

Rest.

Recharge.

AmericanActivist

(1,019 posts)
32. Wow! Thanks for this comment. I was reading
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 03:33 AM
Jan 2018

through the replies on this thread and your comment about demoralization is insightful, it’s keen, and helpful in considering all that we are dealing with. I want to reflect on it further but also wanted yo say thanks and I appreciate it.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
6. They had the smarts to use dog whistles
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:33 AM
Jan 2018

The tiny silver lining might be that his bald-faced racism is revealing to all that anyone who votes for ANYONE (psst Ryan) who goes along, even while trying to hedge, is as racist as he is -- and has always been.

Up to the voters. Once again, reveal, resist, and VOTE

Phoenix61

(17,002 posts)
7. I am not hopeless
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:34 AM
Jan 2018

I refuse to let him or his minions win. They truly are deplorables. They don't care about anything beyond their own little bubble. I'm rolling up on 60. Raised in the south. I've seen this shit before. Apparently we didn't kill the dragon, just wounded it. Time to slay the bastard this time.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
8. Don't worry we're gonna be OK. Your generation will be taking over and I believe most of
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:39 AM
Jan 2018

you guys don't like this shit. Now we need this demographic to come out and VOTE (your age and younger)!!

Oh and don't forget the demographics are changing in this country...period. They can't do a thing about it. Why do you think they are in such a tizzy..they are even more frightened then us! We gonna be aiiiiiigght.

Snarkoleptic

(5,997 posts)
9. Don't feel powerless or hopeless!
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:40 AM
Jan 2018

“Be the change that you wish to see in the world.” ― Mahatma Gandhi

I became a precinct committee chairman and Mrs. Snark became active in local politics as well.

Here's a video from Thom Hartmann that shows how to do so.



Here's the Concord Project video Thom discusses.

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
11. I am feeling quite the opposite
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:45 AM
Jan 2018

In the past week he's been unmasked as crazy, senile, and racist. Traitorous acts are being exposed. The veneer is peeling off Trump and the Republican party. Yes, it is painful to see but most of us here sensed that it was this bad long before the rest of the country did.

They are becoming more exposed by the hour, it seems. They are not being normalized. They are hastening their own departures. Take heart and know better days are coming.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
13. Nope
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 12:47 AM
Jan 2018

This stupidity is bring us together. It's teaching the young voter that they may have to stay involved and vote. We don't run on autopilot. It's a guttural thing, it makes personally ill. We wouldn't allow our children to behave like this. These old white guys just believe their own bs, and that is their personal flaw.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
15. Keep your eyes on the prize.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 01:01 AM
Jan 2018

November 2018.

The more this shitbag opens his putrid mouth, the surer the electoral decimation of the Pedo Party becomes...

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
18. I know how you feel.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 01:13 AM
Jan 2018

I am sorry for your despair and I empathize with you. However, don't give up. Evil never wins. We just have to keep fighting this sickness and ultimately they will fail. Take heart and try to distract yourself with something that lifts your heart for a little while. This can't go on forever.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
20. Nope. We are fighting the final battle. You can help
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 01:22 AM
Jan 2018

You youngsters do no remember when things were worse. And this 50 something had no idea what 70 something liberals experienced.

We are winning. Once this reactionary spasm is over, it is over.

Just keep fighting.

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
21. Thanks, everyone! You guys are awesome.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 01:24 AM
Jan 2018

It is hard not to lose focus on the midterms. The man is really damaging our nation.

Boomerproud

(7,951 posts)
22. I have had many days like yours since November 9, 2016.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 01:31 AM
Jan 2018

Just when I feel the worst, I realize somehow that I am giving a waste of a human being power over me that he doesn't deserve (and believe me, he wants that power). Somehow you have to set up a mental/emotional block to save your sanity and humanity.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
24. It is not hopeless. Seemed hopeless under Reagan, Nixon, W. USA bounced back.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 01:58 AM
Jan 2018

It seemed hopeless under Nixon. We got Carter and an irreversable emphasis on human rights worldwide.

It seemed hopeless under Reagan. We got Clinton and a return to economic sanity.

It seemed hopeless under W. We got Obama and a return to intelligence, grace, and economic sanity.

The USA will bounce back.

Do not abandon hope.

Resist. Persist. Triumph.





oasis

(49,376 posts)
26. Put your anger to work by helping to flip congress to Democratic blue.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 02:00 AM
Jan 2018

The sun will shine for you again by the end of the year.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
27. Yes. No, no, Im fine. No, actually, I cant think straight and can barely fucking breathe. Wait, no,
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 02:21 AM
Jan 2018

yes, I am running on all six, and We, the Proud and Sanctified Citizens of America will take down this cabal of traitorous mobsters not only here, but across the Planet.

Hopefully. Maybe? I’m...pretty sure...

Oh, FUCK YEAH WE WILL, luv!!

Rock steady, keep the faith, and take all the breaks you need, my friend - we’ll be right here when you return!

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
30. Get involved with your local Democratic Party.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 03:16 AM
Jan 2018

Canvas for candidates, phone bank and have fun with your fellow Democrats.

Be part of the resistance that will push the Blue Wave across the US.

You'll meet lots of like-minded people, you will feel like you are part of the solution (because you are!) and you won't feel so hopeless.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
31. Here's where we need to focus: turning over Congress. At least one House.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 03:19 AM
Jan 2018

Then the Dems will control ALL the committees and can investigate DT and all his minions. And if he fires Mueller, the Dems can hire him. By the time we unearth a fraction of what is out there, the Senate will be begging the House to impeach -- to put everyone out of their misery.

So please don't feel hopeless. Let the anxiety energize you, not paralyze you.

Jspur

(578 posts)
34. I'm also in my 30s.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 03:55 AM
Jan 2018

A little bit about me my parents are from India but I was born in this country. Lucky for me my parents were both naturalize US citizens when I was born. I lived in Boston up until I was 11 and then moved to NC. In both case growing up was difficult because I was the only Indian kid in school and in my white neighborhood. I would always hear the cruel racist insults such as "Go back to India. Go back to where you came from." I would get into a lot of fist fights with racist kids. Some fights I won and some I lost. I remember trying to convince some of these racist kids that I wasn't a bad person but they weren't having it. They were pretty much determined to be racist bigots forever. This is why I don't believe Trump supporters are worth reasoning with. Keep in mind I put up with all this crap for the first 18 years of my life.

Now you may think it got better once I went to college but it didn't get better immediately. I was 18 when 9/11 happened which was terrible for me because I'm a brown person. They were thousands of Indians across the country who were dealing with being mistaken for Muslims and were victims of hate crime. My birth religion is Sikhism but I'm agnostic and I don't wear a turban. The first year during 9/11 I dealt with random people trying to start fights with me on the streets including students. This one man pulled a knife on me but I was able to defend myself. A lot of times these racist scumbags would scream terrorist as I walked by. It was terrible when I would walk into the school cafeteria and everybody would straight up stare at me or try to avoid me. This was the case when I went to any place out in public. Eventually things got better and I made friends but I had strong hatred for Bush. I felt Bush didn't do enough to stop hate crimes against brown people in this country but helped encourage it indirectly by pushing his anti-terrorist propaganda bs such as his famous "You either with us or against us" slogan.

During Bush's presidency I joined up with student political groups that were anti-Bush and we would organize protest against him. I remember attending a school protest that got over 10,000 people that was against the Iraq war. I enjoyed screaming fuck Bush with over 10,000 people in the streets. It was a lot of fun and therapeutic to know I wasn't alone and they were other people who also hated Bush out there. This was big for me because keep in mind social media was pretty much non-existent back then so it was much harder to connect with people who had similar beliefs or get a pulse of how people were really thinking outside of what the media reported. I would participate in more protests against Bush and had a lot of optimism that this POS would not win a second term. Unfortunately I was wrong and this guy won a second term during my junior year. I remember me and a bunch of friends were devastated and was shocked that this clown could win a second term.

That victory by Bush was very demoralizing for me. I became very cynical and lost faith in this country and was no longer proud to be an American. I would graduate from school and get a job and just go through the every day motions of being a normal working adult. Suddenly a few years later Barack came out of nowhere and restored my optimism.

Trump is a scumbag but I have been through hell and back during the first 20 some years of my life. I survived Bush who I felt was a rotten scumbag during the start of my adulthood. I understand your anger of feeling targeted due to race because of the president. I felt Bush's idiocy caused Indians and other brown people to be targeted in this country. Trump's racist trolling doesn't phase me because I have dealt with it my whole entire life. Don't let it dominate your life that's how he demoralizes people. It sucks right now but Trump will not be president forever. Eventually this will come to pass.

Jane Austin

(9,199 posts)
35. Trump was like this all along.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 04:14 AM
Jan 2018

The only thing new is that more and more people are becoming aware of it.

The opportunity to correct it can come only as more and more people recognize him for what he is.

eyeofnewt

(146 posts)
41. I agree
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 06:48 AM
Jan 2018

I don’t think he’s any different than he was yrs ago making appearances on Howard Stern and more recently his tweets from pre-candidacy, but possibly his low IQ, classlessness, ignorance and arrogance are exacerbated by his increased exposure as pResident and the stunning realization that even he has reached an exalted position he could never admit he’s unqualified for...so on he babbles and flounders and fails.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
43. It is hardly as offensive as it gets, is what I mean.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 07:00 AM
Jan 2018

And note that the OP was using it interchangeably with "people of color." Do you find that offensive too? And if not, why not?

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
46. I find calling women "chicks" offensive.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 08:07 AM
Jan 2018

It's men's way of reducing women to a thing, a little thing they play with. But it's you calling yourself a chick, so I guess you're comfortable with it. So, even though I think it's demeaning, it's your choice, so it's not something I would alert on or anything.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
39. I simply have no respect for the Presidency.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 06:06 AM
Jan 2018

So I can be more apathetic about it now.

Sucked I spent 8 years defending Obama and now I don't have the energy to go after Trump. Trump at least is so bad I don't have to expend that energy. I mean we have national news going on about how shit he is. That's never happened before in my lifetime. Even when Bush did his stupid shit and made a mockery of the US.

Demsrule86

(68,549 posts)
42. Trump is the worst president in my lifetime. Don't be hopeless. It wasn't that long ago that we
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 07:00 AM
Jan 2018

had it all (until 10). We can again if we pull together and vote. Work for 18 and 20. Trump and his minions are the minority. And I truly believe this is the last gasp for Republicans...we will have to worry about the courts but it will get better.

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