FB argument: "Ted Kennedy said the same thing about those countries." Any evidence?

[nolabear]

I've gotten into a FB argument with a woman who claims Ted Kennedy used "shitty" to describe those countries and immigration too. I've googled and can find one Breitbart slam from today but that's not what it says. It quotes him saying they aren't going to take over but it's utterly unclear whether he's pro or anti immigration.

Has anyone else run across this RW argument and can you point me toward it?

Thanks.

[Anon-C]

1. Just keep pointing out that she hasn't provided any source, and unless she does its phony...

...and exactly the sort of BS peo;ple have come to expect from republicans, conservatives or whatever they call bigots these days.

[nolabear]

4. I did challenge her to prove it and so far she hasn't. I won't argue speculation.

[Sanity Claws]

2. They said it. Let them prove it.

These guys pull shit out of their ass all the time when they talk. Also keep in
Mind that trump spoke as President on a policy matter. Ted Kenny was never President. He was also for more articulate than the orange shitgibbon ever was and never had to resort to such language.

[nolabear]

3. Of course. But I don't like to even participate if I don't have facts. Thanks though.

[Roland99]

5. All I could find...

First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same…

Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset… Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia…

In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think… The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs.”

Kennedy was a huge advocate for immigration.

Der Shitler was not only disparaging the nations but the people, too. Esp with his “take them out” comment re: Haitians

[nolabear]

7. That's what I found. That's PRO immigration, right?

This is bullshit. As if that's anything unusual.

[Orange Free State]

6. Who cares. Ted isnt President and hes dead. Its just the usual deflection,

Which is not working now because they’ve overused that trick.

[nolabear]

8. Well, DU is often a go-to for links. I was curious.

[Hav]

9. Even if it's true, it wouldn't matter

If he said it, it would be wrong and he would have deserved similar criticism. It doesn't mean that the President of the US can be openly racist without facing opposition. That is an insane logic and a poor attempt to deflect from the topic and also a clear sign that they have no real defense for these statements.
No use getting into a dispute about whether Kennedy said it or not. The topic is Trump being a racist and what a disgrace he is.

[bitterross]

26. Thank You. It Doesn't Matter Who Else Said Something Similar

It doesn't matter if Hillary said it too. It is still wrong and still not appropriate from the President of the US. Period.

[Bengus81]

10. Tell her to provide a link to a REAL newsource to prove it.....

Quoting Limbaugh and the NAZIS on Fox News doesn't count. You'll never here from her again.

[Cha]

22. Exactly.. sourcing hate radio or fox sued

to lie to their viewers Does NOT Count.

They lie to their suckers for a gd living.

[maxsolomon]

11. Its not the goddamn point.

Moron wants to stop immigrants FROM shitholes that have black and brown people, and instead have immigrants from places that have whipeepo.

[nolabear]

13. Yes I know.

[maxsolomon]

21. we've got to stop meeting them on their terms.

they're missing the point, deliberately, or because they're just not smart enough to understand it.

I'm seeing RWNJs saying "if they're not shitholes, I challenge you to move there" and thinking they just won the debate.

[nolabear]

23. It would be simple to say

Those countries have some terrible problems, lack of opportunity, some corrupt governments, poverty, etc. and say it with respect. “Shithole” has nothing to do with fact. It’s bias, disrespect, insult and racism. That’s my response to any of those “go live there” comments.

[maxsolomon]

24. pretty much my response

also, I tell them to fuck off back to the Seattle Times' comments section.

[Irish_Dem]

12. Con artists accuse others of wrong doing, to deflect and confuse.

It is beside the point what others have done.

[nolabear]

14. Yes, I know.

[Irish_Dem]

15. Yes, I know you do.

[nolabear]

16. .

Been a LOOOOOONG fekin' year.

[Irish_Dem]

18. Yes we are all on our last nerves.

It is a miracle we are still sane.

[Mc Mike]

17. Oh, it was Ted. Sez the repugs.

Never heard this before, and backed Kennedy since the early '80's.

Wonder if the EMK Institute is pushing some anti-black and brown country initiatives on their website.

https://www.emkinstitute.org/

Just checked. No.

Scans like some unsubstantiated Rove FB BS.

[cagefreesoylentgreen]

19. Ted is dead

How is he relevant here?

[0rganism]

20. did he ever ask for more Scandinavian immigrants?

that's possibly the most offensive part of this whole offensive enchilada, so if they're trying to create an equivalence that has to be part of it too.

[MaryMagdaline]

25. Ted probably wanted them to be rescued from

Shithole countries

[roamer65]

27. Completely irrelevant if even true.

It’s about the here and now, not the past. Ted Kennedy wasn’t in the WH either.

Sounds like an idiot on FB.

[OhioBlue]

28. Plus, if he did make such a comment, it was more likely in the context of

Things are so shitty in their countries that they want to escape and we should grant refuge status. Not keep them out in favor of white Scandinavians.

[grantcart]

29. use google translator Хорошая попытка товарища (Nice try comrade)

[nolabear]

30. LOL!

Thanks for the laugh.

[grantcart]

32. Welcome but that's actually what I would post

That's why I don't do FB, lol

[phleshdef]

31. A lot of those countries ARE shitty. THATS NOT THE POINT.

We call a 3rd world country a 3rd world country for a reason.

The problem isn't that Trump acknowledged the shitty living conditions of 3rd world countries.

The problem is:

1. Trump singled out countries that have BROWN people explicitly
2. Trump thinks those people are lesser human beings because of the condition of their country

[CakeGrrl]

33. Yes - he doesn't want PEOPLE COMING FROM "SHITHOLE COUNTRIES"

The RW is glomming onto the term to deflect from the point that Trump is equating the shittiness of the countries with the people who want to come to America from them.

To emphasize this, he asked why couldn't the U.S. receive more people from Norway?

The bottom line? He only wants people from European, WHITE countries to emigrate to America. That is the intent of what he said.

Whenever someone wants to zero in on the word, they need to have the entire sentence put in front of them, along with the question he asked about people from Norway.