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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis "medical evaluation" was a sham and insult to the American people.
There are many legitimate, serious concerns about Trump's fitness for office.
And it is not just the American people who are concerned, but many others around
the globe. This patient is not an ordinary guy, he is the president of the United States,
with many serious responsibilities that impact the life, death and welfare of many.
The physician did not take any of it seriously. He appears to have a personal relationship with Trump, sees him three times a day to chat and hang out. He paints a picture of Trump as sharp, with it, affable, intelligent, with no observable behavior problems, etc.
This depiction is at total odds with the picture the world sees every day. Slurring words, confusion, word finding problems, difficulty understanding what people are saying to him, obvious memory problems, acting out in hostile irrational ways, mean, vindictive and petty, poor impulse control, signs he lives in his own reality. There are many more issues of concern but I will leave it at that.
The medical exam finds Trump in perfect health to the point he will live to 200 yrs of age.
Other results also strain credulity.
And in response to the world's legitimate concerns about mental status, this physician gives Trump a ten minute screening tool of cognitive abilities. One that is available online and is said to have been selected by Trump himself. The physician proudly announces Trump has a perfect score.
Any psych test results, based upon a test which a patient can read beforehand and even practice specific test tasks, is 100% invalid, totally worthless and means nothing in terms of results.
I have more to say, but am too pissed off. Best to keep my mouth shut.
thegoose
(3,115 posts)This "doctor" who can't spell his own name and signs official documents "Dr. Ronny" is as big a phony as that pill pusher who said Dump's tests were all "positive."
And, as has been mentioned on this board, Dumpie is an Ambien popper. That shit messes you up.
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)This might explain some of Trump's wild behavior, he is in a black out.
And then explains why he doesn't remember any thing he does.
MustLoveBeagles
(11,563 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,647 posts)Sham is a polite word for it.
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)aggravated to keep going.
Yep, a lot of others words come to mind besides "sham."
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)I missed the doc's BS answer, what was it do you know?
MissB
(15,800 posts)Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)MissB
(15,800 posts)Along with his blood pressure, weight and girth.
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)quartz007
(1,216 posts)This simple med keeps my allergies in control!
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)Another huge batch of stupid lies from the Trump regime is issued to the American people.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)a little overly much too.
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)Grammy23
(5,807 posts)He seemed a bit nervous to me. Not one who was used to standing in front of a bunch of DC reporters and cameras.
AND he said he was instructed to answer every question and Sarah was told not to get the hook to remove him too quickly. Let the man speak! Thats what I remember him saying. So he was just following orders. Ahem.....uh, yea. 😳
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)about being nice to him since they might need his medical services.
He was obviously ill at ease.
Did not sound confident or competent.
UTUSN
(70,494 posts)Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)I am typically outspoken, but I was getting so aggravated the more I thought
about the BS medical exam I did have to shut up....
The whole thing was BS.
And he prescribes Ambien to a man with clear mental status problems.
Most mental health professionals beg their patients not to take this drug, it is
so problematic.
And then I missed the part about the doc taking responsibility for Trump
slurring his words because of some minor problems?
UTUSN
(70,494 posts)Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)There was the malted chug to see how many malts he could swill in one minute.
Then there was the big red barn door find to prove his eyesight was good.
He was handed a very presidential crayon to complete a "connect the dots" test.
All that may have taken half a day to complete, and he may have used his Ivanka life line a few times when he just couldn't remember the names of some countries (like Normay and Nambia), but, damnit, he is in fine presidential shape.
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)You have to wait it out until November. Until then, all you can do is make fun of the idiocy. Otherwise, you'll sink into depression.
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)I don't usually do that.
I just snapped.
But yes, better to enjoy and not get the blood pressure up.
Unless of course I get a WH doctor eval in which case I am in perfect health.
Actually I would like to start getting weighed on the WH scale.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)I can be supremely pissed off about something the orange menace has said or done. When I write about it, though, a lot of the responses are funny. It takes my anger down a few notches. The other responses are usually commiserating, so I know I'm not alone in this mess.
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)The medical report just pushed my buttons.
Especially the dementia screening test BS.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)I do better if I just read the propaganda.
Listening to it first hand is too much.
And the part about the cognitive screening sent me into outer orbit.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)reading this stuff too.
Like your Avatars, High Five to Bernie!
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)SO hoping he runs again (with Elizabeth) in 2020... Bernie has shown us the way forward and now it's his time to shine in the political spotlight with his winning agenda, speaking truth to power, which will get us to the "Promised Land"... regardless of whether he runs for President again.
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)I love Bernie.
(I like Hillary and of course voted for her).
Bernie could truly take us into the 21st century, he is a visionary but practical as well.
He sees the same world that I see as America's future. Yes exactly, the same promised land. Which is not really that different from the rest of the civilized world.
America is quite backward and Bernie just wants us to have the same benefits the
rest of the modern world has.
Warren could start kicking a** and taking names if she had the power to do so.
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)Can this doctor insult our intelligence any further?
A dry mouth does not cause all of the speech problems, confusion,
memory problems, etc.
dflprincess
(28,057 posts)I can't say that I've ever noticed it having that effect on me, even when I've taken a bit more than I should.
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)Phoenix61
(16,949 posts)Like any speedy type drug will but it has never, ever caused me to slur my words. Maybe talk a little fast and think I can feel the hair growing on my head but never, ever made me slur my words.
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)It could cause some mild agitation, but not to the extent we see in Trump.
Response to dflprincess (Reply #47)
Pacifist Patriot This message was self-deleted by its author.
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,647 posts)But slurred speech is not a recognized side effect of this particular drug. Irresponsible is one characteristic of this physician, yes.
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)Sudafed cannot cause all of them.
Docreed2003
(16,817 posts)Ilsa
(61,675 posts)DUers swore that he must have either dentures or a partial, because his slurring was exactly like someone with loose teeth.
Putin would be envious.
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)Everyone around Trump lies with impunity.
TNNurse
(6,911 posts)Articulate??
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)Maybe the doc is talking about a different patient.
spooky3
(34,300 posts)fitness for a job is like having one's dentist evaluate one's hearing.
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)Trump picked it out specifically and it is available online.
Trump probably told the doc what to say too.
Employees all over the US undergo fitness evaluations for their jobs.
And no professional would give this kind of report.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Leading medical researchers said on Tuesday that they were baffled by the stunning improvement in Donald J. Trumps health since the days of the Vietnam War.
Somehow, by leading a sedentary lifestyle consisting mainly of watching television and going on Twitter, he has transformed himself from a frail young invalid unable to serve in the military to perhaps the healthiest man in the world, said Dr. Davis Logsdon of the University of Minnesota.
Trumps miraculous recovery from what was previously considered an incurable foot ailment also left scientists scratching their heads. "Clearly, there needs to be further study of the ability of a 10,000-calorie-a-day diet from McDonalds to cure bone spurs," Logsdon said.
......
Link to tweet
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)I hope this gets spread far and wide.
Too ill for Viet Nam as a young man but in perfect health in his 70's.
Stuffing burgers down his throat and loafing.
Thank you for posting!
bdamomma
(63,650 posts)BS and he is a big insult to the American people. Just gets me so angry, he is not in "good shape". Junk food junkie.
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)I will never get this.
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)I think people are afraid of him.
People like Trump threaten a lot.
And get people to commit small crimes he then uses against them.
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)in the Cretin to enable such character obliterating suck ups.
Money?
Does he even have what he claims??
Loyalty?
Does he display any traits to be loyal to or for?
Fame?
Who really wants to be remembered/known as a mindless sycophant toe licker??
mainer
(12,013 posts)Who have high cholesterols can now all proclaim themselves inexcellent health.
That doctor has done a disservice to America.
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)And maybe get all my lab work done there too.
I could be in perfect health and live to 200 yrs of age.
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)The smart people stuff fast food down their throats and loaf around all day.
So you can be in perfect health and live to 200 yrs of age.
Ilsa
(61,675 posts)How can a 71 yo be on cholesterol medication, with the dosage being upped, and borderline obese, and be considered "in excellent health?"
By these standards, I should live to be 300!
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)sandensea
(21,526 posts)The former Soviet leader, famously, was always at pains (as it were) to show the world his health was still reasonably good.
Secretly, of course, he had been dying since around 1977 - and in fact had a near-death experience in 1980. He ultimately passed away in 1982.
"Yes, comrade. Better than ever - thank you! (no U.S. president could ever get away with blowing this much smoke, let me tell you)."
mountain grammy
(26,568 posts)I walked around saying that while the "news" head was talking and my husband got mad and asked me to be quiet so he could listen.. Listen to the bullshit and lies.. go ahead. We are all more stupid for having heard this.
Look at the man. He's fat, he stumbling, he can't put a sentence together. He looks unhealthy and stupid because he is.
Bullshit and lies.. thanks, I feel better. I hate that piece of shit.
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)Started my own thread which I don't usually do.
Glad I got it off my chest.
mountain grammy
(26,568 posts)Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)Comes out of the West Wing can be trusted, or true.
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)yeah the doctor said that today
https://crooksandliars.com/cltv/2018/01/trumps-doctor-predicts-trump-could
mainer
(12,013 posts)Hell be the healthiest and longest living President EVER!
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)cult followers.
Dear Supreme Leader is totally perfect in every way.
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)Good thing the Obamas really are in excellent health.
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)They didnt need to be reminded of health issues because they used their brains. They read. They listened. They learned. They educated themselves...and shared that knowledge.
If this Dr. Ronny is real, he is presenting himself as a dolt.
So many supposedly adult professionals are presenting themselves as complete morons these days it is hard not to dislodge my head from my body from shaking it in disgust.
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)Good thing they are smart, healthy and can take care of themselves.
I hope their girls had a private practice pediatrician.
I know the collective stupidity and total inability to tell the truth is
beyond disgusting.
haele
(12,581 posts)Unless that's a cyborg he examined, and it would be possible that, with a bit of reprogramming, the mainframe could last another 200 years.
Haele
Ilsa
(61,675 posts)Lint Head
(15,064 posts)Fit is not a doctor's evaluation. That is the evaluation of not only the people but if I psychiatrist.
bullwinkle428
(20,626 posts)then what the fuck else is he willing to lie about??
dalton99a
(81,062 posts)to vice admiral
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)It was downhill from there.
C_U_L8R
(44,889 posts)Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)Actually seeing men who are the same weight and height described by the doc shows us the report is BS.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)and the Doctor is dishonorable.
moondust
(19,917 posts)A guy on Sky News (U.K.) said a doctor told him the blood pressure they gave might be good for a 30-year-old but was not believable for a 71-year-old.
Colbert thought it awfully convenient that his weight is one pound below obese.
onecaliberal
(32,471 posts)Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)betsuni
(25,119 posts)Disgusting.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)The evaluation was simply par for the course and EXPECTED.
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)I thought the doc would have been a bit more professional, more objective.
I was not prepared for him being such a sycophant.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I was prepared for what happened. I imagine you were like me an had never heard of the doctor. After everything I have seen from people around Trump, I fully expected the Dr. to be a sycophant. What else was going to happen?
The word sycophant, which you use in reference to the Dr., is meant to highlight someones obedience toward someone on an important topic. This is not an important topic and it's commonplace for many people to be obedient to Trump when it comes to important issues.
This isn't Trumps first stellar Dr.'s report.
I don't know how so many were caught off guard. It just shouldn't happen at this point. Specially on something so trivial.
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)My bad for sure.
Docreed2003
(16,817 posts)There is no fucking way....ABSOLUTELY ZERO...that Trumps BMI is 29. None
Irish_Dem
(45,616 posts)weight, height and BMI nonsense in the report.