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bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 10:25 AM Jan 2018

Binge watching utube videos on mafia bosses. Where are today's bosses?

These were guys dominating the news when I was young - Lansky, Luciano, Siegel, Gotti, etc. And the group known as Murder Incorporated.

Where are their counterparts today?

When reports claim Trump (because he was engaged in construction and real estate in NYC) inevitably had dealings with 'the mob,' just what is meant?

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Binge watching utube videos on mafia bosses. Where are today's bosses? (Original Post) bobbieinok Jan 2018 OP
It means that some construction companies and unions were backed by organized crime tymorial Jan 2018 #1
Thanks for your insight. A helpful addition to Trump story. bobbieinok Jan 2018 #3
I don't know about being counterparts, but the FBI just rolled up about 11 of them. shraby Jan 2018 #2
Do you have sources for this? After watching videos want to learn more bobbieinok Jan 2018 #5
Here's a link mythology Jan 2018 #6
Thanks. Names, pics just like videos about gangs in 30s 40s, 50s. Same 5 crime families bobbieinok Jan 2018 #11
Graft and organized crime ran Kansas City in the first half of the 20th century misanthrope Jan 2018 #21
Truman, right bobbieinok Jan 2018 #23
Thanks! shraby Jan 2018 #16
Who is asking and why? jberryhill Jan 2018 #4
Hey!! After Kefauver? investigations, word was that mafia no longer exists bobbieinok Jan 2018 #7
Nothing tymorial Jan 2018 #8
There Are No Such People Today ProfessorGAC Jan 2018 #9
I seen a lot of crime. jberryhill Jan 2018 #10
Ok, Mr Hoover ProfessorGAC Jan 2018 #15
I was trying to track down the source... jberryhill Jan 2018 #17
Whew! ProfessorGAC Jan 2018 #19
You can often find news stories about them. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #12
Thanks for names. The videos brought back lots of memories of news stories of yrs ago bobbieinok Jan 2018 #14
Also interesting there are no longer movies about gangsters like those with James Cagney, EGRobinson bobbieinok Jan 2018 #13
Those movies died out in the late 50s LeftInTX Jan 2018 #22
This is quite interesting. Movies about boxing and horse racing? Weren't both mob infested? bobbieinok Jan 2018 #26
And there were multitudes of prison movies bobbieinok Jan 2018 #27
We just had "The Sopranos" on TV. That was fiction based on fact. They're still around. brush Jan 2018 #29
There are still some elements of the Philly mob jberryhill Jan 2018 #18
One is in the Whitehouse Le Gaucher Jan 2018 #20
Thanks for all replies. I've learned a lot. Topic interested more DUers than I ever expected bobbieinok Jan 2018 #24
CEOs are the mafia bosses. Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #25
In the Trump Administration. nt doc03 Jan 2018 #28

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
1. It means that some construction companies and unions were backed by organized crime
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 10:35 AM
Jan 2018

Either through membership or leadership. The thought is that given the timeframe when Trump was building his casinos and business empire, it is likely that the mafia could have leveraged him to use their laborers and companies.

So what is the response? Do you capitulate and agree or deal with work stoppages, interruption, intimidation levied against you, your family or those companies who chose to work with you. What happens then is you start to lose support as people fear for their own and their families safety.

I can hate Trump without looking at this for a reason.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
11. Thanks. Names, pics just like videos about gangs in 30s 40s, 50s. Same 5 crime families
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 11:08 AM
Jan 2018

Just watched videos of Carlo Gambino and Genovese family. Kinda weird and bit scary the families are still going strong.

Although I grew up in Ok, I only recently learned about the big mob presence in Hot Springs Arkansas. Thought mob was NYC, east coast cities, Chicago. Not my part of country!

Heard that when race tracks opened in OK a few yrs ago, tracks were only approved if they gave control of the concessions system to the mob. They had gotten to the state group(s) granting licenses. And some claim OK is out of the mainstream!



misanthrope

(7,405 posts)
21. Graft and organized crime ran Kansas City in the first half of the 20th century
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 05:02 PM
Jan 2018

Look up Tom Pendergast and note who his associates were.

Organized crime is everywhere and these days it is far more than the stereotypical Italian families.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
7. Hey!! After Kefauver? investigations, word was that mafia no longer exists
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 10:49 AM
Jan 2018

Remember reading magazine (Life? Look?) stories as a young teen about big meeting of gang bosses somewhere on east coast. Complete with pics of buildings and many cars in parking lot.

ProfessorGAC

(64,425 posts)
9. There Are No Such People Today
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 10:50 AM
Jan 2018

A few stragglers, but mostly the mob has reverted to street thugs, at least in the last couple decades. That's why "it" needed to pal up with the Russian mob.

The RICO stings of the 80's and 90's, plus the utter incompetence of Gotti pretty much destroyed organized crime as you recall it.

ProfessorGAC

(64,425 posts)
15. Ok, Mr Hoover
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 11:21 AM
Jan 2018

That's what J Edgar said too. LOL! Right about the time a bunch of 'em became the equivalent of a billionaire by staying "organized".

BTW: Bank robbery in my little town last week. Guys were efficient. They were in and out in under a minute. Not sure how much they got. Probably not that much as the reward for information was only a grand.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
17. I was trying to track down the source...
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 04:25 PM
Jan 2018

My hazy memory was that it was a mobster who was asked about whether he had any knowledge of organized crime, and maybe was in the Kefauver hearings. But I gave up after, oh, 45 seconds of research.
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
12. You can often find news stories about them.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 11:13 AM
Jan 2018

Some really big names have gone down over the last couple of years.

Here are some names for you to look into.

Michael "the Nose" Mancuso

Liborio Bellomo

Victor Amuso

Thomas DiFiore

Steven Crea

A couple more cooling it in jail.

John Franzese

Anthony Palumbo

Whitey Bulger

LeftInTX

(24,560 posts)
22. Those movies died out in the late 50s
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 05:27 PM
Jan 2018

Poor box office performance. They tended to be lower budget.

The original gangster movies with James Cagney and EG Robinson took a big hit when the Hays Code started in 1934. [link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Code_crime_films| A group known as the Legion of Decency felt that they glorified crime. They didn't make a come back until the 1940s.

Also, TV shows like The FBI, Dragnet were a source of true crime dramas. There were also fiction crime dramas on TV.

I used to watch shows about the mafia all the time on A&E, Biography Channel, Discovery and Court TV.

brush

(53,475 posts)
29. We just had "The Sopranos" on TV. That was fiction based on fact. They're still around.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 06:07 PM
Jan 2018

The smart ones keep a low profile.

Gotti wasn't, which is why he ended up dying after years in jail.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
18. There are still some elements of the Philly mob
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 04:27 PM
Jan 2018


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/alleged-philly-mob-boss-trial-postponed-heart-problems-article-1.3761701

Reputed Philadelphia mob boss Joseph (Skinny Joey) Merlino's racketeering trial will be postponed until the end of January following his heart problems, court proceedings revealed.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
25. CEOs are the mafia bosses.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 05:42 PM
Jan 2018

As a noted Cappo once said ,"When we ran the numbers, they called it racketeering. The government does it and calls it the Lottery"

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