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Initech

(100,056 posts)
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 01:13 PM Jan 2018

FRC Asks: Can We Outlaw Roe v. Wade In Five Years?

Yet another anti-choice group is explicitly expressing its hope that if President Trump has the opportunity to nominate another Supreme Court justice, the court will overturn Roe v. Wade.

In a fundraising email today with the subject line “Can we outlaw Roe v. Wade in five years?” Family Research Council executive vice president Jerry Boykin asks for contributions to FRC Action, the FRC’s political arm, to help the group in the next Supreme Court fight with the hope of overturning Roe before its 50th anniversary in 2023.

“Last year, we took a major step toward accomplishing that mission by helping to lead the nationwide push to nominate and confirm pro-life Justice Neil Gorsuch to the U.S. Supreme Court,” Boykin writes. If they can get another justice like Gorsuch on the court, he says, “we can finally overturn Roe v. Wade and end abortion in America once and for all!”
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/frc-asks-can-we-outlaw-roe-v-wade-in-five-years/


This is fucking scary. This is outright fascism.
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FRC Asks: Can We Outlaw Roe v. Wade In Five Years? (Original Post) Initech Jan 2018 OP
and then we can reinstitute slavery in our manufacturing sector. LakeVermilion Jan 2018 #1
Such is the reprehensible right J_William_Ryan Jan 2018 #2
This will make women slaves to a fetus. CrispyQ Jan 2018 #3
No birth control, no abortion. Women will have babies every year like the old days. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #4
They will never *end* abortion; lastlib Jan 2018 #5
No - it's their whipping boy. Initech Jan 2018 #6
The well off will have to call them GeorgeGist Jan 2018 #7

J_William_Ryan

(1,749 posts)
2. Such is the reprehensible right
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 01:27 PM
Jan 2018

And such is ignorance common to most on the right.

If Roe is overturned it would only mean that states could ban the procedure, where most states will elect not to do so, including some red states.

CrispyQ

(36,445 posts)
3. This will make women slaves to a fetus.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 01:30 PM
Jan 2018

I don't understand why the pro-choice groups don't add this as one of their arguments for choice. I know it wouldn't matter to the religious nuts, but it might sway a lot of other people who are on the fence, or never really gave the issue much thought.

https://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1031&context=facultyworkingpapers

2010
Forced Labor, Revisited: The Thirteenth
Amendment and Abortion
Andrew Koppelman
Northwestern University School of Law, akoppelman@law.northwestern.edu

I. The basic argument

The Thirteenth Amendment reads as follows:

1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted,
shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their
jurisdiction.

2. Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by
appropriate legislation.


My claim is that the amendment is violated by laws that prohibit abortion. When
women are compelled to carry and bear children, they are subjected to "involuntary
servitude" in violation of the amendment. Abortion prohibitions violate the
Amendment's guarantee of personal liberty, because forced pregnancy and childbirth, by
compelling the woman to serve the fetus
, creates "that control by which the personal
service of one man [sic] is disposed of or coerced for another's benefit which is the
essence of involuntary servitude."6

Such laws violate the amendment's guarantee of
equality, because forcing women to be mothers makes them into a servant caste, a group
which, by virtue of a status of birth, is held subject to a special duty to serve others and
not themselves.

Irish_Dem

(46,797 posts)
4. No birth control, no abortion. Women will have babies every year like the old days.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 02:21 PM
Jan 2018

My grandfather was one of 22 children.

lastlib

(23,197 posts)
5. They will never *end* abortion;
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 02:28 PM
Jan 2018

They will only move it to the back alleys and bathtubs--where women will DIE.

I LOATHE these f&ckers with the heat of a thousand suns... . .

Initech

(100,056 posts)
6. No - it's their whipping boy.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 02:29 PM
Jan 2018

They will use it to rally their base, then disavow any knowledge of harsh laws being proposed and/or passed when it is useful to them. You know - much like Hitler did with his useful idiots.

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